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RI gay marriage bill faces uncertain future

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Friday, January 25, 2013 4:01 AM

GEEZER

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PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) - Legislation that would make Rhode Island the 10th state to allow gays and lesbians to marry still faces an uncertain future despite being overwhelmingly approved by the state House on Thursday night.

It could be weeks or even months before the Senate takes up the bill that would make the Ocean State the last in New England to recognize same-sex marriage, but supporters still celebrated the House vote.

Ken Fish, a gay man from Warwick, showed up at the Statehouse hours before the vote to ensure he got a seat in the crowded viewing gallery.

"I wanted to be here to see it," said Fish, 70, "Go back 10 years, even five years, and I wasn't sure we'd ever get here. We're not done yet, but this is a big one."

While the House has a gay marriage champion in Speaker Gordon Fox, who is gay, Senate President Teresa Paiva Weed opposes the legislation.

The 51-19 House vote came after an often emotional debate that touched on civil rights, religion and the nature of marriage.

"This has been a long journey," Fox said after the vote. Fox supported same-sex legislation when it was first introduced in 1997. "Today is a great day. Today ... we stand for equality, we stand for justice."

Nine states and the District of Columbia now allow gay and lesbian couples to marry.

Gov. Lincoln Chafee, who supports gay marriage, urged quick action on the bill in the Senate. The governor, an independent, argues gay marriage is an issue of civil rights and the state's quality of life, and said some people may choose other New England states over the Ocean State because of its stance on marriage.

"Now that the House has swiftly acted, I urge Senate leadership to `call the roll' _ for our economy, for our gay and lesbian friends and neighbors, and for history," he said in a statement.

Advocacy groups on both sides of the issue will now turn their attention to the 38-member Senate, which has never voted on gay marriage legislation.

Chris Plante, director of the state chapter of the National Institute for Marriage, said he's optimistic senators will vote to preserve the state's current marriage laws. He said leaders like Fox and Chafee don't reflect public sentiment.

"Rhode Islanders care about marriage, and they don't want to see it redefined," he said.

Some opponents have suggested placing gay marriage on the ballot as a referendum, but the idea is a nonstarter with Fox and Chafee.

A handful of lawmakers rose during Thursday's debate to criticize gay marriage as a dangerous social experiment. Rep. Arthur Corvese, D-North Providence, warned lawmakers that same-sex marriage was an "irrevocable societal game-changer" that would redefine "the fundamental building block of our community" and could lead to the legalization of polygamy or plural marriages.

"Truth must not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness," he said. "Is this the vision you want for Rhode Island's future? Is this the future you want for America?"

Supporters in Rhode Island are hoping to build on national momentum after votes to approve gay marriage in Maine, Maryland and Washington. Meanwhile, in Minnesota, voters rejected a proposed state constitutional amendment that would have prohibited gay marriage, the first time such a ballot question has failed in the United States.

Lawmakers who argued in favor of allowing gays to marry warned their colleagues they could wind up on the wrong side of history if they cast a no vote.

"Your grandchildren someday will ask you... `How did you vote on marriage equality?'" said Rep. John Edwards, D-Tiverton. "Hopefully you'll be able to say the right thing."

Two years ago, Fox dropped gay marriage legislation after he concluded the bill would not pass the Senate. Instead, lawmakers passed civil unions for same-sex couples. But there has been little interest in the state. In the year since civil unions were first offered, only 68 couples obtained civil union licenses.

Last year, Chafee signed an executive order recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other states.


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You'd think this would be an easy pass in the R.I. Senate, with 32 of 38 Senators Democrats. However, the Senate President, Teresa Paiva Weed, who opposes this bill, is a Democrat, along with many other opponents. Really is like herding cats for Democratic policymakers, isn't it?

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Friday, January 25, 2013 4:31 AM

M52NICKERSON

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Originally posted by Geezer:
Really is like herding cats for Democratic policymakers, isn't it?



Yes, many times it is.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Friday, January 25, 2013 8:07 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yes, and I don't see what the problem is for them. As far as I'm concerned, if two people care enough about each other to commit to each other and merge their economic and legal lives, that's all to the good. I hope the Senate will come around to that view.

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Friday, January 25, 2013 8:14 AM

GEEZER

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Yes, and I don't see what the problem is for them. As far as I'm concerned, if two people care enough about each other to commit to each other and merge their economic and legal lives, that's all to the good. I hope the Senate will come around to that view.



Couldn't agree more.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Friday, January 25, 2013 1:46 PM

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It's no wonder that only 68 couples have applied for licenses. They know what they are up against.

I'm sure they're used to being up against it by now.

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Friday, January 25, 2013 2:12 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yes, and I don't see what the problem is for them. As far as I'm concerned, if two people care enough about each other to commit to each other and merge their economic and legal lives, that's all to the good. I hope the Senate will come around to that view.



Just 2 ?

Do both need to be an adult ? Over the age of consent ?

And would it still be called a marriage, no matter what ?

But as for the heart of the matter...if two people care enough about each other to commit to each other and merge their economic and legal lives, that's all to the good.

I agree w/ that.


"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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