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If you dare to ACTUALLY filibuster today in America...

POSTED BY: NIKI2
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Saturday, August 3, 2013 8:15 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


...this is what you get:
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Texas Republicans Consider Charging Wendy Davis $2.4 Million For Special Session

The Texas Legislature’s unprecedented three special sessions this summer are likely to leave the taxpayers of the Lone Star State footing a $2.4 million bill. But according to Republican state Rep. Giovanni Capriglione, there’s a simple option for covering part that: Make Democratic state Sen. Wendy Davis pay for one of the sessions.

“I think we need to remember why we are having this extra special session,” Capriglione told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram on Tuesday. “One state senator, in an effort to capture national attention, forced this special session.”

“I firmly believe that Sen. Wendy Davis should reimburse the taxpayers for the entire cost of the second special session,” Capriglione said. “I am sure that she has raised enough money at her Washington, D.C., fundraiser to cover the cost.”

According to the Star-Telegram, a special session, which can last up to 30 days, costs the state about $800,000 after representatives and senators have received their living expenses and travel allowance. After three special sessions, that adds up to $2.4 million.

Davis said it’s the state’s GOP leadership that’s to blame.

“It’s unfortunate that the leadership in power squandered taxpayer dollars pursuing partisan politics before Texas priorities and forced an unnecessary special session,” Davis said. http://news.yahoo.com/texas-republicans-think-wendy-davis-should-pay-f
or-special-session-142129814.html



So let's see, THEY filibuster everything right and left in the Capitol, THEY called the special sessions each time, they didn't get what they wanted out of the second one, so called a third, but those famous rights of the minority they talk about to avoid being railroaded by the majority...what was that again?

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Saturday, August 3, 2013 9:30 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Same song, who knows what verse by now.

Rep. Giovanni Capriglione is "Texas Republicans"?

He's quoted in the story as saying "I firmly believe that Sen. Wendy Davis should reimburse the taxpayers for the entire cost of the second special session..." so he's apparently speaking for himself.

Nowhere in this story is any other Texas Republican named, so I guess he's all of them.

Yeah. I know. That's the story title. But somebody did state that "THEY filibuster everything right and left in the Capitol, THEY called the special sessions each time..." so someone apparently thinks Rep. Capriglione is "THEY, all the "Texas Republicans".




"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Saturday, August 3, 2013 1:19 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Apparently he's not alone.
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Rep. Giovanni Capriglione is heading up the faction of Republicans who think that Davis should use her D.C.-fundraised money to cover the cost. http://jezebel.com/texas-gop-wants-sen-wendy-davis-to-literally-pay-fo
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]


Considering the things she's been called because she filibustered, I think it's pretty safe to assume there's more than one Republican, GOPer or "right winger" if you will, who disapproves of her having filibustered, when Filibuster (with a capital "F") is the mantra of Washington Republicans.

Further, am I to assume that you think this is the way government should be run?
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...original focus of the first special session was supposed to be on a transportation measure, but Republicans decided to make it all about restricting women’s reproductive rights instead. Their shift in priorities outraged women and led directly to the massive protests and marathon filibuster that caused the session to end without a successfully passed bill in the first place. So Governor Rick Perry called yet another costly special session of the state legislature to pass the bill they weren’t supposed to deal with originally. And now, Perry may have to call a third special session to pass the transportation bill that should have been passed the first time around.


Some in Texas don't think so:
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In the wake of yesterday's epic fail on transportation funding it looks like state legislators are headed back to Austin for a third month-long special session.

Much of this could have been avoided, of course. Lawmakers could have done what they're elected to do and finished their business in the spring. Failing that, they could have set aside inflammatory topics and focused on addressing the state's glaring funding shortfalls in water and transportation.

The other option is to blame everything -- the mounting numbers of special sessions, the unnecessary costs, the GOP's embarrassing collapse in round one -- on State Senator Wendy Davis. http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2013/07/republicans_want_we
ndy_davis_t.php



To respond to your accusations: "They" DID call the special session--ignoring the transportation and other measures the state needs. "They" DID call the second, and now apparently "they" are going to call a third special session to deal with the transportation issue ("they" being the ones complaining about what government spends and being the party of "fiscal responsibility"). "They" DO filibuster everything right and left. None of that is untrue.

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Saturday, August 3, 2013 4:06 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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Originally posted by Niki2:
Apparently he's not alone.
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Rep. Giovanni Capriglione is heading up the faction of Republicans who think that Davis should use her D.C.-fundraised money to cover the cost.



But the first article you cited named only Rep. Capriglione. And the second one, although claiming a "faction", didn't name anyone else, or give the numbers of this so-called "faction".

BTW, since it's claimed to be a 'faction', it, by definition, can't be "the Texas Republicans", but just a sub-set of them. So far, as to folks identified as calling for Davis should pay for the extra sessions, the faction is one person.






"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Sunday, August 4, 2013 3:34 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Your ability to nit-pick over minutiae and focus on it while steadfastly avoiding the issue is noted. I prefer to communicate rather than play your games.
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Even before Fort Worth Democrat Wendy Davis took the Senate floor late Tuesday morning and launched into the filibuster that would ultimately grab the nation's attention and kill attempts to railroad abortion restrictions through the state Legislature, she was at the top of Texas Republicans' hit list. Davis, they realized, has the whole package: humble back story; uncanny knack for politics; ability to rally the grassroots; ambitions for higher office; a uterus. She was, and remains, a very big threat to continued Republican dominance of state government.

So, it was no accident when GOP lawmakers attempted to shift Davis into a more conservative district during redistricting in 2011, or when the cash began pouring into Dr. Mark Shelton's no-holds-bars campaign to unseat her in 2012. And Beth Cubriel, the executive director of the Republican Party of Texas, could barely contain her glee when Davis drew the short straw and had to face re-election in 2014, two years early. Neither could party Chairman Steve Munisteri who "danced a jig" ( http://www.statesman.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/fort-w
orths-wendy-davis-makes-waves-in-the-texas-s/nT7G2
/).

While Democrats and abortion-rights supporters cheered, Republicans were loading ammunition for 2014. And it wasn't just former party Chairwoman Cathie Adams, though she did unleash quite the screed against "Whining Wendy" and "feminazis" on Twitter yesterday, including "Whining Wendy drones on proclaiming self-centered reasons to kill innocent babies" and "Too many pro-abortion feminazis are too poor to buy bras. That's DISGUSTING!"

Munisteri told Politico last night that the party was phone-banking voters in Davis' district during the filibuster to "fire up our base," as he put it.




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Sunday, August 4, 2013 5:37 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


It's standard GOP logic, Niki. When an elected Republican representative says something, they in no way speak for Republicans or the party. When a news reader says something, though, they speak for the entire "Left".

Similarly, if one single person within the government didn't respond to Benghazi with what Geezer feels was adequate anger and outrage, it's a scandal for the whole administration, and a cover-up. At no point will he admit that that person is a "faction" or a tiny "sub-set" of the administration - oh no, that person is the entire administration in microcosm.

If a tiny faction inside the ATF allows guns to be sold (legally) and then smuggled into Mexico, that's all Obama's fault, and speaks to massive corruption that goes all the way to the top.

If a tiny faction inside one IRS office targets one group with the name "Tea Party" in its title, that's "the Obama Administration". But if someone connected to the House committee investigating the issue phonies up a bunch of e-mails to try and support a nonexistent point, they're just a tiny sub-set of the party, and in no way emblematic of the GOP as a whole.

That's the way Geezer's brain works. Or fails to work. That is the logical disconnect inside people like him and Rappy.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Sunday, August 4, 2013 5:39 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Also, I have to wonder if this particular "faction" in Texas would support sending a bill directly to every Republican in Congress who have voted - FORTY TIMES NOW - to defund Obamacare.


Tell us, O fiscal conservatives - when can we expect that sixty million dollar check to reimburse us for the time and money you've wasted on this quixotic adventure?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Sunday, August 4, 2013 6:22 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Also, I have to wonder if this particular "faction" in Texas would support sending a bill directly to every Republican in Congress who have voted - FORTY TIMES NOW - to defund Obamacare.



You can call him up and ask him. Here's his office phone.

(512) 463-0690


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Sunday, August 4, 2013 6:47 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


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BTW, since it's claimed to be a 'faction', it, by definition, can't be "the Texas Republicans"

But it can be "Texas Republicans" - which is what the article says.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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