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Governors: Obamacare works in our states

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Monday, November 18, 2013 9:18 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


You can just mentally add "...and California" to this:
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In our states — Washington, Kentucky and Connecticut — the Affordable Care Act, or “Obamacare,” is working. Tens of thousands of our residents have enrolled in affordable health-care coverage. Many of them could not get insurance before the law was enacted.

People keep asking us why our states have been successful. Here’s a hint: It’s not about our Web sites.

Sure, having functioning Web sites for our health-care exchanges makes the job of meeting the enormous demand for affordable coverage much easier, but each of our state Web sites has had its share of technical glitches. As we have demonstrated on a near-daily basis, Web sites can continually be improved to meet consumers’ needs.

The Affordable Care Act has been successful in our states because our political and community leaders grasped the importance of expanding health-care coverage and have avoided the temptation to use health-care reform as a political football.

In Washington, the legislature authorized Medicaid expansion with overwhelmingly bipartisan votes in the House and Senate this summer because legislators understood that it could help create more than 10,000 jobs, save more than $300 million for the state in the first 18 months, and, most important, provide several hundred thousand uninsured Washingtonians with health coverage.

In Kentucky, two independent studies showed that the Bluegrass State couldn’t afford not to expand Medicaid. Expansion offered huge savings in the state budget and is expected to create 17,000 jobs.

In Connecticut, more than 50 percent of enrollment in the state exchange, Access Health CT, is for private health insurance. The Connecticut exchange has a customer satisfaction level of 96.5 percent, according to a survey of users in October, with more than 82 percent of enrollees either “extremely likely” or “very likely” to recommend the exchange to a colleague or friend.

In our states, elected leaders have decided to put people, not politics, first.

President Obama announced an administrative change last week that would allow insurance companies to continue offering existing plans to those who want to keep them. It is up to state insurance commissioners to determine how and whether this option works for their states, and individual states will come to different conclusions.

What we all agree with completely, though, is the president’s insistence that our country cannot go back to the dark days before health-care reform, when people were regularly dropped from coverage, and those with “bare bones” plans ended up in medical bankruptcy when serious illness struck, many times because their insurance didn’t cover much of anything.

Thanks to health-care reform and the robust exchanges in our states, people are getting better coverage at a better price.

One such person is Brad Camp, a small-business owner in Kingston, Wash., who received a cancellation notice in September from his insurance carrier. He went to the state exchange, the Washington Healthplanfinder, and for close to the same premium his family was paying before got upfront coverage for doctor’s office visits and prescription drug , vision and dental coverage. His family was able to keep the same insurance carrier and doctors and qualified for tax credits to help cover the cost.

Since Howard Stovall opened his sign and graphics business in Lexington, Ky., in 1998, he has paid half the cost of health insurance for his eight employees. With the help of Stovall’s longtime insurance agent and Kentucky’s health exchange, Kynect, Stovall’s employees are saving 5 percent to 40 percent each on new health insurance plans with better benefits. Stovall can afford to provide additional employee benefits, including full disability coverage and part of the cost of vision and dental plans, while still saving the business 50 percent compared with the old plans.

In Connecticut, Anne Masterson was able to reduce her monthly premiums from $965 to $313 for similar coverage, including a $145 tax credit. Masterson is able to use her annual premium savings of $8,000 to pay bills or save for retirement.

These sorts of stories could be happening in every state if politicians would quit rooting for failure and directly undermining implementation of the Affordable Care Act — and, instead, put their constituents first. Health reform is working for the people of Washington, Kentucky and Connecticut because elected leaders on both sides of the aisle came together to do what is right for their residents.

We urge Congress to get out of the way and to support efforts to make health-care reform work for everyone. We urge our fellow governors, most especially those in states that refused to expand Medicaid, to make health-care reform work for their people too. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-we-got-obamacare-to-work/20
13/11/17/3f2532bc-4e42-11e3-be6b-d3d28122e6d4_story.html?hpid=z3


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Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:23 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Hey Niki,

This article should be top news everywhere, but I believe the mainstream media has moved on to the sensational coverage of the naysayers. People like Ted Cruz and, ugh, Sarah Palin (who shows up like a bad penny. I'll say it again, why is this woman still in the news?).

She was on the Today show last week promoting her (ugh!) book. When Matt Lauer asked her a question about the book, she proceeded not to answer and gave a mini-speech about Obamacare. The woman hasn't got a clue and yet they continue to give her airtime, much like they did with Ann Coulter for several years until she recently burned herself (something about a gay slur or some such).

I say good riddance!


SGG

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Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:16 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Gee, Coulter isn't everywhere anymore? I hadn't heard, I figured she, like Palin and Bachmann, are just too juicy for the media to EVER give up on. ;o)

And yeah, I think you nailed it. Between the right wing pushing as hard as humanly possible to come up with and pump the hell out of any--ANY--negative story about the ACA, and the fact that it's the Big Story right now, I think the successes don't interest much of anyone. As always, "if it bleeds, it leads". That's fine; this will go on for as long as they can drag it out, but given they've got no alternatives to offer and more people are signing up daily, eventually it will go the way of all things, they'll find something else to scream about, and then we can slowly start working on FIXING the problems. You know, exactly like Medicare Part D...

You didn't really expect Palin to do anything but what you described, did you? She may not be too bright, but it doesn't take brilliance for her to have figured out her niche and learn to play it to the hilt. She's not going anywhere, as long as the Tea Party is at the head of the Crazy Parade.



She will be the Queen of Word Salad until some other nutcase comes along...You betcha!




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Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:56 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
You can just mentally add "...and California" to this:
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In our states — Washington, Kentucky and Connecticut — the Affordable Care Act, or “Obamacare,” is working.




All states with Democratic governors. I'm sure they'd tell us if the ACA wasn't working for them.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:13 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


They'd probably stay quiet if it wasn't though? Not write a joint article about it, inviting scrutiny?

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:23 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
They'd probably stay quiet if it wasn't though? Not write a joint article about it, inviting scrutiny?




Don't know. However, there are 17 Democratic governors who didn't contribute to this article. Staying quiet, perhaps?


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:29 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Very likely, it's no secret that Obamacare isn't performing well in many places...

Still,to know it CAN work, when the governors implement it well... This could backfire on Republican governors who have sought to stop the law working, and whose constituents will suffer as a result.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:26 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


The point is that it's working in states which worked WITH it, and of course no Republican Governor would be caught dead working with it. It also worked because I believe those states did their own websites, the website being the biggest problem.

And no, trying to say they'd fake the numbers or lie about it is reeeely reaching. It would be so easy to prove they were lying that all it does is show your bias, once again Geezer, to claim they might be faking it. The stories about the California successes and the success in other states have been there all along, you guys have just been too busy ranting about the problems to want to notice.

Out here, there have been news stories about how concerned they are, given the screaming and hollering going on, that people wouldn't know the California system is working just fine and people are signing up all the time. They've been afraid because of the massive media blitz that people wouldn't even try, they'd think we're having the same problems the nationwide site is. They've got a statewide campaign on to overcome the disinformation, we've known about it for quite a while and I posted about it at least once.

There are plenty of stories about it, you just don't want us to pay attention to them:

"What The Obamacare Haters Don't Want You To Know About Exchange Successes -- And Why They Don't Want You To Know It", http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/10/15/what-the-obamacare-ha
ters-dont-want-you-to-know-about-exchange-successes-and-why-they-dont-want-you-to-know-it
/

"Todays News: Obamacare Proving Successful in California", http://georgemiller.house.gov/todays-news-obamacare-proving-successful
-california


"Damn The Numbers, ObamaCare Is A Success In California", http://downtrend.com/71superb/damn-the-numbers-obamacare-is-a-success-
in-california
/

"California Obamacare Sign-Ups Exceed 28,000 in First Week", http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-08/california-tops-28-000-in-hea
lth-exchange-enrollment.html


"No sticker shock here—just affordable insurance premiums ", http://www.newrepublic.com/article/113289/obamacare-california-no-stic
ker-shock-here


There's tons more; we know, you couldn't be bothered reading any of them. Please feel free to go back to focusing on what's important to you.


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Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:48 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


"This could backfire on Republican governors who have sought to stop the law working, and whose constituents will suffer as a result." There are quite a few stories about that, as well, KPO, and it's a strong possibility. Add to that the states where the Republican Governors refused the Medicaid expansion, and in time, it may be telling.

""Death Panel" of GOP Governors Refuse Medicaid Expansion", http://ourfuture.org/20130108/death-panel-of-gop-governors-refusing-me
dicaid-expansion-grows


"MAP: The 5 Million People The GOP Cut Out Of Obamacare", http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/medicaid-expansion-map-obamacare-loser
s


The crux of it, as always, being
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Without some type of insurance expansion for the state’s poorest, hospital emergency rooms will continue to be overwhelmed by uninsured patients who don’t go to the doctor unless it’s at the ER, he said. This drives up health care costs and insurance premiums for everyone else, Lunsford noted.

Paula Gomez, executive director of the Brownsville Community Health Center, said her clinic treats a little more than 20,000 patients a year. Between that and Su Clinica’s Brownsville clinic, she estimates only 15 percent of the actual need is being met in the city.

“People are waiting till their illness gets to the point where they end up in the emergency room, and at that point we pay for it anyway because they still don’t have ability to pay,” she said. "Analysts: Texas loses big by rejecting Medicaid expansion", http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/local/article_caf425ee-d0ae-11e2
-b684-001a4bcf6878.html
]


Chris Christie and even Jan Brewer (remember how she FORCED her legislature to accept the Medicaid expansion?) were smart enough to read the "tea leaves"...Rick Perry, not so much (anyone surprised?)

The logic is pretty unassailable, even Rick Scott caved in the end, way back in February:
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Florida Governor Rick Scott joined an esteemed group yesterday—-he became the seventh GOP governor to flip-flop and announce his support for the expansion of Medicaid in his state. Chances are more Republican governors will follow suit.

So what led to his change? One word: hospitals. Not only have hospitals, on average, supported expansion of Medicaid from its announcement, but they’ve also been working overtime recently to convince Republican governors and state legislators that it’s the financially smart thing to do. “If Florida doesn’t expand Medicaid, we’re going to have the money taken out of one pocket (by the federal government), we just won’t get it put back in the other,” Tommy Inzina, chief administrative officer at BayCare Health System, told the Florida House this week ( http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/19/3242496/fla-hospitals-push-for-m
edicaid.html
).

In 2011 Florida hospitals spent $2.8 billion caring for the uninsured and had to write off the majority of that bill. That’s up from $2.4 billion in 2006–when 1.7 million uninsured were treated–and the trend will only get worse ( http://www.insidearm.com/daily/medical-healthcare-receivables/medical-
receivables/florida-hospitals-uncompensated-care-costs-skyrocket
/) unless more state residents are insured. The expansion could have a monumental impact by insuring one million newly eligible people in the first year alone.

Similarly, in South Carolina, Republican Gov. Nikki Haley’s opposition to expansion is softening as hospitals support expansion with their voices and now their wallets; they say they’ll consider a provider tax to help pay for any state costs of the expansion. Bob Coble, a lobbyist for hospitals and providers, told The State, “It would, essentially, be the health-care industry taxing itself to pay (it).” ( http://www.mlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/02/rick_snyder_medicaid_o
bamacare.html
)

So while the GOP’s statements on the expansion may not add up, the math does. “Expansion will create more access to primary care providers, reduce the burden on hospitals and small businesses, and save precious tax dollars,” said Rick Snyder (( http://www.thestate.com/2013/01/30/2610520/hospitals-could-pay-to-expa
nd.html
), Michigan’s Republican governor, when he caved earlier this month.

The federal government will foot 100% of the bill for Medicaid expansion until 2017. But even up until 2023, the Congressional Budget Office estimates states will pay only 10% of the costs. What happens after 2023? There’s little doubt Florida and other states will have to chip in more money as their populations continue to rise and more people are eligible for Medicaid. But hospitals are open to future cuts and understand the budget situation is always in flux. What they’re not open to is having the next nine years look like the previous nine. http://www.forbes.com/sites/janetnovack/2013/02/21/why-gop-governors-a
re-caving-on-medicaid-expansion/#




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Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:38 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


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And no, trying to say they'd fake the numbers or lie about it is reeeely reaching. It would be so easy to prove they were lying that all it does is show your bias, once again Geezer, to claim they might be faking it.

I think many of us thought that. Hyper-cynical and hyper-suspicious where democrats are concerned.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:33 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Hey Niki,

Add another state: Minnesota

Was watching Hardball with Chris Matthews and he reported it last night.
Finally, someone other than Sharpton giving this development a proper platform.

Of course, the Big media machine glances at it and calls it a day. I believe NBC Nightly News gave it a couple of minutes once. In CT and CA the numbers are outpacing the early predictions. It's a matter of time.

A CT senator said that they had glitches with their state-run website and their still outdoing their estimates in sign-ups. Good for them!


SGG

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Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:44 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
You can just mentally add "...and California" to this:
Quote:

In our states — Washington, Kentucky and Connecticut — the Affordable Care Act, or “Obamacare,” is working.




All states with Democratic governors. I'm sure they'd tell us if the ACA wasn't working for them.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."



Go on, tell us you're not partisan again - always good for a laugh.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:48 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Thanx, Shiny, that's good to know. As time goes on, more and more states will sort it out. Just like Medicare Part D. That's a given.


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