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I was not informed.
Saturday, February 15, 2014 6:02 PM
AURAPTOR
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Quote: NBC News | November 14, 2013 Obama: 'I was not informed' website would not work correctly President Barack Obama says he was not directly informed of the numerous problems with healthcare.gov before its launch. http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbc-news/53554802#53554802
Quote: Report: Sebelius Met With Obama 18 Times Before Botched Obamacare Rollout Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius made more than a dozen trips to the White House before the rocky rollout of the Obamacare exchanges in October, hundreds of documents obtained by The Hill show. Despite her assertions that President Barack Obama was unaware of the litany of problems, Sebelius met with or took part in calls and events with the president at least 18 times between Oct. 27, 2012 and Oct. 6, 2013, and in at least seven of those instances they were scheduled to discuss Obamacare. Sebelius also met or had calls with Pete Rouse and Valerie Jarrett, two of Obama's closest advisers; White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough; and Chris Jennings, then a White House senior healthcare adviser during that period, the records show. In response to the documents, HHS said in a statement that Sebelius "is frequently at the White House for meetings on a wide range of topics, including the implementation of the Affordable Care Act. As we have also said, the Affordable Care Act is more than just a website, and consistent with other significant policy initiatives, there was coordination across the Administration on a broad range of policy and implementation topics." But her frequent visits in the months leading up to the disastrous website rollout raise questions about what the president knew or did not know. In a Nov. 14 press conference, according to The Hill, Obama said, "I was not informed directly that the website would not be working the way it was supposed to. Had I been informed, I wouldn't be going out saying, boy, this is going to be great." The documents also show that Sebelius met with influential journalists, including former Washington Post reporter Ezra Klein and New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman, to discuss Obamacare. Less than a month after her April 23 meeting with Friedman, the Times ran a column by him about how the number of startups dedicated to information on Obamacare showed that it "already appears to be surprising on the upside." After the botched rollout, Sebelius faced a Congressional panel to explain what went wrong. She noted no one had warned her of potential problems, not staff or contractors involved. "Did any senior department official predict serious problems? And did any senior department officials advise delaying the rollout of the exchanges or parts of the exchanges on Oct. 1?" Florida GOP Rep. Gus Bilirakis asked Sebeliuson Oct. 30 before the House Energy and Commerce Committee. "I can tell you that no senior official reporting to me ever advised me that we should delay," she answered. Sebelius has maintained that Obama was made aware of problemswith the site only days after its launch. U.S. Rep. Darrell Issa, who chairs the House Oversight Committee, has repeatedly asked for Sebelius to answer for the problems with Obamacare rollout. He has threatened she faces criminal penalties if her previous testimony before Congress was misleading.
Sunday, February 16, 2014 10:37 AM
Sunday, February 16, 2014 10:55 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Sunday, February 16, 2014 10:58 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Sunday, February 16, 2014 11:36 AM
Quote: projected 7 million. In other words, basically OK.
Sunday, February 16, 2014 11:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Right-wingers are totally vested in the idea of an Obamacare collapse. They have no plan B, and their only answer to growing evidence that it’s not going to happen is furious denial.
Sunday, February 16, 2014 11:59 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, February 16, 2014 12:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Right-wingers are totally vested in the idea of an Obamacare collapse. They have no plan B, and their only answer to growing evidence that it’s not going to happen is furious denial. No denying this....
Quote: All I'm saying is that Obama kept up with all the practices we all agreed were shit when GWB started them. Somehow, nobody is even talking about the wars anymore. They're just background noise. They're still happening, don't you know?
Sunday, February 16, 2014 12:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "Somehow, nobody is even talking about the wars anymore. ... They're still happening, don't you know?" We're out of Iraq as of 2011. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdrawal_of_U.S._troops_from_Iraq Not sure if you've kept up with the news.
Sunday, February 16, 2014 12:15 PM
Monday, February 17, 2014 9:48 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by second: Right-wingers are totally vested in the idea of an Obamacare collapse. They have no plan B, and their only answer to growing evidence that it’s not going to happen is furious denial. If you’ve been tracking the news on signups under the Affordable Care Act – which is easy thanks to Charles Gaba’s invaluable site http://acasignups.net/ – you already knew that the program was making a pretty good recovery from the botched start. Now, however, it’s official http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/13/us/3-3-million-enrolled-in-health-care-marketplaces-more-young-people-signing-up.html?hp&_r=0 as of the end of January signups were only about a million behind their projected track as of last spring, which means that as of March 31 the total is likely to be 6-point-something million rather than the projected 7 million. In other words, basically OK.
Quote:The Wall Street Journal in January detailed some of the surveys that have taken of people who obtained insurance through the exchanges, and the results so far indicate that the vast majority of enrollees were previously insured. •Only 11 percent of consumers who bought new coverage under the law were previously uninsured, according to a McKinsey & Co. survey •HealthMarkets Inc., an insurance agency that enrolled around 7,500 people in exchange plans, said 65 percent of its enrollees had prior coverage. •At Michigan-based Priority Health, only 25 percent of more than 1,000 enrollees surveyed in plans that comply with the law were previously uninsured.
Quote:Meanwhile, just last Avalere threw cold water on the 6.3 million Medicaid figure, estimating that only 1.1 to 1.8 million of the enrollees could be attributed to the Affordable Care Act. That estimate generated headlines, including a full report in The Washington Post that said it suggested “many of the people who have joined the program since the initiative’s rollout in October would have done so absent the law.”
Monday, February 17, 2014 10:47 AM
Monday, February 17, 2014 3:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: "Why would AURaptor distort the truth about something so easy to verify?" I thought to myself, so I did NOT play the video until this morning. D'oh! I thought I was Lisa Simpson and found out I'm gullible Homer. That makes AURaptor Mr Burns.
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