How many of you assholes are voting on Nov 3? by 6IXSTRINGJACK

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How many of you assholes are voting on Nov 3?

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Friday, October 30, 2015 12:00 AM

I know it's just local elections, way under your hipster-savvy radar, but maybe you should read up on them and "start locally while thinking globally"....

The guys and gals I voted into power 2 years ago reduced my property taxes over $200 a year while also strengthening our school system. They also reduced our cities property tax bill by $1Million dollars by making the State force the rest of our Township to reduce their "Poor Relief" by 2/3rds by 2016. I know that sounds harsh, but before that mandate came down, they spent 35 times the state average on poor relief, just in that City.

Somehow, magically, after the cleansing and large amount of arrests of local politicians, it seems to be happening. (No more politicians riding around in Escalades with Platinum cards with no spending limits).....

Nobody expects you to vote locally on November 3rd.

Why don't you blow their tits off and come out in droves and ruin everything they were taught would happen to them at their fancy Universities?

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Friday, October 30, 2015 12:49 AM

ELVISCHRIST

Huh. I was taught at my "fancy university" that the most powerful voice you have is your vote. I don't miss an election, ever, and I've never voted for any Republican.

Many of us are very active and involved at the local level.

Sounds like you just woke up and realized there's a world going on out there. Took ya long enough, ya big dope.

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Friday, October 30, 2015 2:45 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I've voted every election since I moved here in 2011.

I think if you surveyed every American who was in their 30s, you'd find that almost none of them vote.

I know every single one of the people who see me coming look kind of shocked that I'm there. From the people from both parties giving me a list of people to vote for in case I'm stupid and forgot their names, to the homely middle aged women along side of the inexplicably young and attractive women taking my drivers license before voting...

That's just one of the reasons that I'm paying 1/5th of the property taxes my old man is paying today. He lives on the outskirts of Chicago. I still live close enough to commute for a high enough paying job there if I desired to. He pays over 5k a year property taxes. I pay 850 a year, and I have 3 times the land he does.

I know everyone here thinks I'm stupid. :)

I won't argue that point.

I'll just keep "Forrest Gumping" myself from here until Eternity....

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 30, 2015 5:29 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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I've voted every election since I moved here in 2011.

Four whole years, is it?

Well, it's not a long time, but it sounds to me like you've researched your candidates and gotten to know them. That's more than a lot of people can manage. Congrats!

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Friday, October 30, 2015 6:06 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Don't forget that express lane voting for liberals only is on Wednesday, no waiting in line or any delays.

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Friday, October 30, 2015 6:14 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

They also reduced our cities property tax bill by $1Million dollars by making the State force the rest of our Township to reduce their "Poor Relief" by 2/3rds by 2016. I know that sounds harsh, but before that mandate came down, they spent 35 times the state average on poor relief, just in that City.

Hey Forrest Gump, you live cheap in the backwoods cabin where Abe Lincoln grew up. My county spends more on stray dogs than yours does on poor people. I love dogs so I voted for Harris County PROPOSITION NO. THREE: THE ISSUANCE OF $24,000,000.00 HARRIS COUNTY VETERINARY PUBLIC HEALTH ADOPTION AND CARE CENTER BONDS AND THE LEVYING OF THE TAX IN Payment thereof. www.harrisvotes.com/SampleBallot/VoterBallot/E/0532-8.pdf

Just so you know, when I voted early I presented my Texas Drivers License. When its magnetic strip was read, I was given a password (1111) to the voting machine. Now there is an easily sorted database of who voted and where they live. (They ask if your current address is on the license) The politicians care about voters and they could care less about non-voters, which explains a great deal about Texas politics. The non-voters in the poor areas of Harris County are not careful to keep their dogs behind a fence. The rich voters in the wealthy areas do the opposite. And that is why the rich run Harris County and will spend $24,000,000 on a dog adoption center. You get what you want from politics not because you have money, but because you voted.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, October 31, 2015 10:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by SECOND:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

They also reduced our cities property tax bill by $1Million dollars by making the State force the rest of our Township to reduce their "Poor Relief" by 2/3rds by 2016. I know that sounds harsh, but before that mandate came down, they spent 35 times the state average on poor relief, just in that City.
Hey Forrest Gump, you live cheap in the backwoods cabin where Abe Lincoln grew up. My county spends more on stray dogs than yours does on poor people. I love dogs so I voted for Harris County PROPOSITION NO. THREE: THE ISSUANCE OF $24,000,000.00 HARRIS COUNTY VETERINARY PUBLIC HEALTH ADOPTION AND CARE CENTER BONDS AND THE LEVYING OF THE TAX IN Payment thereof. www.harrisvotes.com/SampleBallot/VoterBallot/E/0532-8.pdf

Just so you know, when I voted early I presented my Texas Drivers License. When its magnetic strip was read, I was given a password (1111) to the voting machine. Now there is an easily sorted database of who voted and where they live. (They ask if your current address is on the license) The politicians care about voters and they could care less about non-voters, which explains a great deal about Texas politics. The non-voters in the poor areas of Harris County are not careful to keep their dogs behind a fence. The rich voters in the wealthy areas do the opposite. And that is why the rich run Harris County and will spend $24,000,000 on a dog adoption center. You get what you want from politics not because you have money, but because you voted.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

I live right outside of Chicago now and I grew up even closer than I live now, thank you very much...

Lake County Indiana is where I live now. Crook County Illinois is where I was born and raised and spent the majority of my life.

Glad you're voting too, and even respect your being a total asshole here. I'm just saying that you're barking up the wrong tree here pal.

Go find some other dipshit dumbass podunk idiot. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, October 31, 2015 10:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by SECOND:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

They also reduced our cities property tax bill by $1Million dollars by making the State force the rest of our Township to reduce their "Poor Relief" by 2/3rds by 2016. I know that sounds harsh, but before that mandate came down, they spent 35 times the state average on poor relief, just in that City.
Hey Forrest Gump, you live cheap in the backwoods cabin where Abe Lincoln grew up. My county spends more on stray dogs than yours does on poor people. I love dogs so I voted for Harris County PROPOSITION NO. THREE: THE ISSUANCE OF $24,000,000.00 HARRIS COUNTY VETERINARY PUBLIC HEALTH ADOPTION AND CARE CENTER BONDS AND THE LEVYING OF THE TAX IN Payment thereof. www.harrisvotes.com/SampleBallot/VoterBallot/E/0532-8.pdf

Just so you know, when I voted early I presented my Texas Drivers License. When its magnetic strip was read, I was given a password (1111) to the voting machine. Now there is an easily sorted database of who voted and where they live. (They ask if your current address is on the license) The politicians care about voters and they could care less about non-voters, which explains a great deal about Texas politics. The non-voters in the poor areas of Harris County are not careful to keep their dogs behind a fence. The rich voters in the wealthy areas do the opposite. And that is why the rich run Harris County and will spend $24,000,000 on a dog adoption center. You get what you want from politics not because you have money, but because you voted.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, November 1, 2015 9:45 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Glad you're voting too, and even respect your being a total asshole here. I'm just saying that you're barking up the wrong tree here pal.

Go find some other dipshit dumbass podunk idiot. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You posted this same comment twice, all within a single minute. Does that seem right to you, to repeat yourself, to repeat yourself? Now you got me doing it.

This morning I was looking at the Houston Chronicle, which says that just 18% of registered voters cast ballots in the last municipal election. And registered voters are only half as many as the eligible voters. It explains why a hundred thousand deeply committed people actually voting can overrule millions. A Texan, Lyndon B. Johnson, called voting “the basic right, without which all others are meaningless.” I think he got that one right, for once.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, November 1, 2015 2:11 PM

REAVERFAN

I always vote in everything; local, primaries. If you don't vote, then don't bitch.

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Sunday, November 1, 2015 3:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I don't want a fucking Democrat voting with me now...

Vote November 3rd for "nothing" like 9/105ths of you won't, and go fuck yourselves...

Nevermind

We'llpretend we spoke meaninguful shit come NOvember 7th or so

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 1, 2015 3:25 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Selena is only for good mid-term voters....

My worst case scenario isn't whatever anyone else loves...

obeyingis fun....

love it or leave it

Do Right, Be Right. :)

#E$DK

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Sunday, November 1, 2015 5:51 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Did you really mean to post the same video three times? two times would have been enough.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Selena is only for good mid-term voters....

My worst case scenario isn't whatever anyone else loves...

obeyingis fun....

love it or leave it

Do Right, Be Right. :)

#E$DK

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, November 2, 2015 7:17 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

In this story, two voters will determine the fate of $500,000,000 in bonds. Be sure to vote, even if your vote isn't as significant.

In area elections, a handful of voters decide $1 billion in bonds
'Rent-a-voter' districts chided while supporters point to progress

By Cindy Horswell
Updated: November 1, 2015 8:36pm
www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/In-area-MU
D-elections-handful-of-voters-decide-6604289.php

A few months ago, a cabinet maker and his wife were recruited to move into a manufactured home parked on a dirt road that was plowed into the woods on the west side of Conroe in Montgomery County.

Daniel and Deborah Spiecher are now the only residents of a newly created municipal utility district, or MUD, carved from 82 acres of land there. They are also the only ones eligible to vote Tuesday on $500 million in proposed bonds to develop that tract.

In fact, they are among just seven voters who will decide the fate this week of $1.07 billion in bonds for roads, water, sewer and recreational facilities in three such districts that were recently formed in this fast-growing county north of Houston. The debt will be repaid with taxes imposed on future residents and businesses. While some believe the MUDs provide a means to bring about high-end development in an orderly way, critics say they are out of control, with developers manipulating the democratic process to essentially take on the roles of cities and borrow hundreds of millions of dollars to make public improvements.

Montgomery County resident Adrian Heath decries the lack of transparency and citizen input into what critics call "rent-a-voter" MUD elections. Heath notes that the billion-dollar MUD proposals make the contentious, countywide election over a $280 million road bond package look like "kid stuff."

Yet an attorney representing one of the developers for the three MUDs refers to these initial seven voters as "urban pioneers."

"They move onto the land and help establish new communities, paving the way for the future homeowners," said Angela Lutz, the attorney for Stoecker Corp., which plans to develop land covered by a separate MUD on Conroe's west side and also north of The Woodlands. She stressed these elections are completely legal, as well as being "typical and ordinary" and the way MUDs have operated for decades.

Wave of MUDs

Explosive growth has caused a surge in the number of MUDs that have been created this year not only in Montgomery but also in Fort Bend County. These two counties account for the formation of 15 new MUDs apiece, state records show. The remaining six counties in the Houston region have seen fewer or no new MUDs: Harris County with 11 such new districts, Waller with 4; Brazoria with 1 while Galveston, Liberty and Chambers have seen none.

In Montgomery County, three of the new districts holding elections Tuesday include: MUD 148, encompassing the 82 acres where the Spiechers live; MUD 142, which covers 92 acres on Conroe's west side being developed by Stoecker; and Conroe's Municipal Management District No. 1, which is spread over 2,000 acres that was once a Boy Scout camp on Conroe's south side.

On Adrian Heath's website, www.countycitizen.com - he questions the propriety of such elections. He posts a copy of the city permit issued for the trailer where the Spiechers now call home, showing it was issued in August and labeled a "temporary voting trailer."

Daniel Spiecher, who is originally from Lufkin, said he was enticed into signing a nine-month lease for the trailer by Stingray Services Inc. because the rent was cheap, only $150 a month. "It's better than an apartment," he said.

Stingray Services did not return phone calls from the Chronicle. However, on its website, the company says that it specializes in "turn-key voter trailer" election services and has completed nearly 100 such trailer installations and elections in the past decade.

Spiecher's trailer sits on a small piece of the 82 acres in MUD 148 that is owned by Friendswood Development Co.

Friendswood spokesman Michael Johnson could not be reached for comment, but the developer has plans to build 300 homes that will sell for about $215,000 and will be intertwined around 18 acres of nature trails.

'We just live here'

Meanwhile, the only two people who can vote in Stoecker's MUD 142, Tracey Viehe and Nikolas Mitchell, live in an old house down a long dirt driveway on this property. Both refused comment, with one saying simply, "We just live here, that's all." Stoecker plans to carve 400 residential lots from the property.

Finally, only three voters are eligible to cast ballots in Conroe's Municipal Management District No. 1. They are Tamara Martinez, Sara Woehle and Michael Wallin, who are living in two houses previously utilized by the Boy Scouts before the land was purchased by Johnson Development Corp., which plans a mixed-use development there.

"Johnson has great plans for this prime property off Interstate 45," said Rafael Martinez, whose wife is one of the voters. "This will become a great new place to shop and live."

Martinez, who previously lived and worked at the camp, has since been hired as a land manager for Johnson. As a permanent resident with a green card, he is ineligible to vote, but his American wife can, as well as two others who recently moved onto the property, he said.

Virgil Yoakum, a spokesman for Johnson Development, could not be reached for comment on efforts to hold an election to pass these bonds.

All but one of the seven voters have listed the same mailing address with the county voter registrar: 20615 Marilyn Lane in Spring. Records show the property at this address has been connected to a mobile home service, Jaylerton Properties LLC, which also has links to Stingray Services, but representatives of the entities could not be reached for comment.

In Tuesday's election, Johnson is asking for approval of $448 million in bonds for its development (and up to a $1.10 tax rate to pay for it); Friendswood is seeking $500 million (and up to a $3.10 tax rate); and Stoecker wants $126 million (and up to a $1.75 tax rate).

While MUDs provide a way for developers to recoup the cost for installing new infrastructure from waterlines to roads, these developers must cover the initial expense themselves and then later are reimbursed, typically over one to five years by taxing those who move into the district, said Andrea Morrow, spokeswoman for the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality, which oversees the districts. "The state has strict regulations on how this is done," she said.

In the past decade, none of the MUDs in the eight-county Houston region has filed for bankruptcy, she said.

Conroe Mayor Webb Melder is excited about the coming elections for the three MUDs that lie within his city limits: "It means a larger tax base, more sales tax and jobs," he said.

Without MUDs, much of Harris County and The Woodlands would not exist today, he said. In order for MUDs to be confirmed in an election as state law requires, developers have to move residents onto their property to vote, Melder said.

"While the method may seem unusual, it has led to hundreds of thousands of high-quality and affordable homes in the Houston area," said Lutz, the attorney for Stoecker.

Blurred lines

However, others, such as University of Connecticut School of Law professor Sara Bronin, question the "lack of formal democratic process" in these MUD elections, utilizing a small voter pool that is "handpicked by the developer."

Bronin, who wrote an article for the Fordham Law Review on Texas' MUDs, notes how MUDs were originally designed only as a vehicle for supplying water to unincorporated areas. Since then, as the number of MUDs has proliferated, their power also has grown, she said.

"The lines are so blurred that you can't tell much difference between a MUD and what a city can do," she said.

MUDs can not only build infrastructure and levy taxes, but some also have the power of eminent domain and can initiate fire and police security.

Yet Melder and others say the overwhelming majority of the 972 MUDs created in the Houston region since 1971 have been a resounding success, providing quality growth to the area.

"Houston and this whole region would not be where we are today without them," he said.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, November 3, 2015 9:15 AM

ELVISCHRIST

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Go find some other dipshit dumbass podunk idiot. :)

I like that you are at least honest enough to admit that you're a dipshit dumbass podunk idiot.

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Tuesday, April 4, 2023 8:47 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Biden could wait until the FALL to announce his 2024 run

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11934141/Biden-wait-FALL-anno
unce-2024-run.html

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