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End Is Nigh 4 Europe, Refugees, Illegal Immigration, Muslim Invasion...alarmist doomsday post

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Saturday, November 7, 2015 2:13 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Chatted to a few people on Skype, Twitter...funny things happening in Europe You wonder what's really going on

read this one
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/11/an-exit-strategy-for-traitors.ht
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[Update: In case you think that Alex's perspective is extremist, just now Hansjörg Müller of the Alternative for Germany party had this to say: “Germany now is somewhere at the edge of anarchy and sliding towards civil war, or to become a banana republic without any government.” Alex is simply ahead of the curve, while most of the commenters on this article seem to be off in the weeds. None of the commenters seem capable of making an obvious point, so I'll make it for them: Letting in all comers, not even bothering to check which ones happen to be demobilized fighters for Al Qaeda or the Caliphate, and who may have just recently run around raping women and beheading men, is a startlingly dumb idea, and its execution places EU officials somewhere on the spectrum between gross negligence and high treason.]

[Germany—the country at the center of the European Union and its economic powerhouse—is something of a black hole. 70 years after the fall of Nazism, it is still an occupied country, under military and political domination of the US. The national press, popularly referred to as Lügenpresse (the lying press) faithfully echoes the party line set in Washington. Germany's spineless politicians, popularly renamed from Volksvertreter (people's representatives) to Volksverräter (traitors to the people) are no better. And so we are unable to see what is actually happening there, as the European Union is, in the words of Russia's FM Sergei Lavrov, “committing suicide” by letting in the invading hordes from the Middle East. And so this short report by Alex, who tells us what he sees, is most welcome.]

Do you remember the last time you saw a man with wild eyes, strange clothes and a giant sign around his neck saying “The End Is Nigh”? “How ridiculous and pathetic!” you might have thought. Now, imagine the reality of your country changing within weeks to a point where you come to the same conclusion as him, suddenly feeling that his approach might be ever so reasonable. When a large part of your fellow-humans catch a strange sort of illness, one which leads to complete insanity faster than in the worst zombie outbreak, you might find yourself out of more viable strategies.

This exactly is happening to me, as well as most people I know, right now, right here in our export-champion, model-democracy Germany. Sane people are finding themselves isolated and helpless amid insane politicians, an antagonistic press, paralyzed communities and a large inert populace unable to even fathom what’s happening. I am of course talking about the so-called “refugee crisis,” but because even this name is working against us, I will call it what it really is—a war against Europe by means of invasion. It is now vitally important to call things by their right name, because this distinguishes friend from foe.

But it is even more important is to understand why this is a war rather than a crisis caused by refugees. Everything about this development bears the hallmarks of a military/intelligence operation.

First of all, look at the timing and the scale. It really took off around September, and within less then two month it is already threatening the stability of Europe as a whole, to a point where even the European “Leaders” are talking about the end of the European Union. Credible numbers are not available, but the German government estimates the number of “refugees” that have already arrived somewhere between one and two million, so the real number is probably much larger. Almost all the camps are crammed with far more people than is claimed. Some towns are being forced to cope with more “refugees” than they have citizens, some double as many. The estimates for next year amount to something between two and five million more “refugees.”

Ask yourself, why would millions of men (the overwhelming majority are young men) suddenly and collectively decide to leave their families behind, leave their country, travel thousands of miles and head for either Germany, Austria or Sweden, ignoring all the other safe countries on the way? Who told them that this would be worth it? Where did they all get the money to pay for it? Why was there absolutely no effort at any border to stop them? Why did this not start earlier? After all, the middle east has been a war zone for years—ever since the USA exploited 9/11 to start “spreading democracy.” How could this happen within days, weeks at most. Did the first hundred thousand send a message to the rest that it was OK for them to come too? If so, how?

Secondly, look at the character of the average “refugee.” Why are they all well-fed, well-clothed, self-confident young men showing no signs of stress or hardship? Why are they leaving their families behind? Do they know their wives and children can follow them later? If so, how? Why do these men not want to stay behind and try to rescue their countries? Why do they all own high-quality mobile phones charged with seemingly endless minutes? It is clear that the “refugees” have been briefed on exactly what kinds of social benefits they can demand, and how to go about doing it, and so they are audacious and become violent if met with resistance. They even demand expensive medical treatments, which are granted and taken for granted. Why? There are no background checks for any of these people—naturally, because there is no time to do ten thousand-plus background checks every day. For all we know, these people could be criminals, mercenaries and terrorists. An unknown number have serious diseases, such as hepatitis, TB and even the plague. No one keeps track of that, no one registered them, no one limits their freedom of movement. Those who register do so mostly with forged Syrian passports, which Turkey hands out like candy, even to black Africans who look nothing like the Syrians. Tens of thousands of “refugees” have “disappeared” from their camps, some even stopped the special trains midway to their destinations by pulling the emergency brake and ran off into the wilderness. Where to and why—no one knows. No one asks questions, but what is clear is that we have completely lost control over European territory.

Thirdly, there is the little matter of collaboration and treason. Even if this is a genuine refugee crisis, why is that none of the policies of the German/European government make any sense? And why is the press acting continuously and uniformly in favor of their policies, and is downright hostile toward the European populace? If millions of people have to flee immediate peril, there are a lot of different ways to care for them without endangering the integrity of Europe and ruining several national budgets. But instead of discussing what to do, how to do it and how to pay for it, the plan seemed to be predetermined, decided and fixed long ago.

The political “solution” is to soak every city and town in Germany, Austria and Sweden with people of unknown origin and intention. Flanked by a press hailing the process, underestimating their numbers and suppressing reports of crimes committed by the “refugees,” damning and demonizing every form of opposition. Every branch of government, all authorities and parties, in concert with the press, stand should to shoulder in pushing this agenda against the overwhelming indignation of their citizens and closing their eyes to the fact that this is against the law. Censorship, propaganda, hate speech, defamation and open rejection of basic democratic rights against any opposition, are simply exploding right now. A prime example of this is Germany's vice chancellor Sigmar Gabriel, who called an undefined but large part of the German populace who dare to oppose this insanity “Pack” (vermin).

Everyone who takes a stand in Germany now, opposing any refugee-related policy by the government, is subjected to insults is labelled as a right-wing extremist, a hateful criminal and a danger to society. Some get singled out and persecuted in public using extensive defamation campaigns. The author Akif Pirinçci became the latest victim after giving a speech at the PEGIDA demo, the accusation against him based on a shameless misrepresentation of the facts.

Even the most peaceful protest is immediately threatened with a ban (but most are still granted permission anyway). Every speech or publication mentioning treason or comparable accusations is instantly subject to investigations under the charge of demagoguery or threat of violence. Current examples can be found daily in the major mainstream outlets such as Der Spiegel, Die Welt, Bild and the like. If this situation came about by chance, such a spontaneous consensus would have been extremely unlikely. But from day one this has been an obvious propaganda/defamation campaign against the truth and against the interests of the European populace.

The German press even earned itself a new name that sticks: “Lügenpresse” (the lying press) is a word that can be heard on every corner. In private, the politicians are being called traitors all the time.

The national railroad company is ordered to offer special trains free of charge for the “refugees,” bringing them into every corner of Germany the fastest way possible while delaying regular trains.
Vacant houses and apartments are confiscated by force and given over to the “refugees” free of charge. Every “refugee” given rental housing is paid for by the communities, as much as 500 Euros per person per month. This is a big opportunity for some scumbags to make money really fast, by making, ill and elderly Germans homeless.

The police and the press have been ordered to suppress reports of any crimes the “refugees” commit, and so you will not find any in the press, nor even in police reports. But if you ask around, you will hear plenty of stories about rampant assaults and rapes in every city and many towns in Germany. Some “refugee” camps burned down, but most were burned down by their inhabitants, mostly in protest or because of minor disagreements. Police sirens are heard in every city every hour now.

When the “refugees” started shoplifting, then raiding supermarkets, the government told the retailers to keep quiet about this, and has been paying for everything that was damaged or stolen ever since. The only exceptions are alcohol and cigarettes—all other retail goods are free, no questions asked.

The small business sector has declared the “refugees” unemployable, due to zero qualifications, unwillingness to work and lack of language skills. However, the experts in the press somehow see a “big opportunity” to grow the economy. There is no critical discussion and no plan for the future. The only advice Chancellor Merkel gave to Germany was “Wir schaffen das” (We will do it), not elaborating exactly what we will do, nor how. But anyone brave enough to think for themselves can easily guess.

To keep it short, any political common sense and human instinct would prohibit such reckless, potentially irreversible, not to mention illegal behavior. Its end result is clearly visible: it is either the ruin of Europe—mainly the countries targeted by the “refugees,” which are Germany, Austria and Sweden—or war. Since I don’t believe that either coincidences or stupidity of this magnitude is possible, this is either treason or high treason. At least two charges have been filed against the current government, one for organized immigration crimes, and just recently for high treason. About 400 people became party to this action afterward. They are unlikely to succeed, because the judiciary is complicit. But if it isn’t obviously high treason now, it will become so within weeks—called out by everyone, because there is no end in sight.

The rest of organized society is equally treasonous. The press has openly declared itself an enemy of democracy and the general public, and at best a collaborators. The church, even while immediately threatened by violent Islam, prays for more immigrants, damning people who dare to utter doubts. The intelligentsia is either silent or applauds our altruism. The treason is complete. Police and the military are completely overwhelmed. The military was reduced in size long ago to the point of utter ineffectiveness and has been stressed out by international missions. The police is simply not equipped to handle millions of potential enemies fanned out all over Europe, awaiting the order to attack.

For foreign observers, this may sound far fetched and exaggerated. But consider this: in some areas of Germany, when you call the police now, no one will answer the phone. When they do, they are unable to do anything. A friend of mine called the police hotline (not the regular local emergency number) and was advised to form some sort of militia to solve the problem. A town of 600 has a dozen policemen at most, but often around a thousand “refugees” to handle. No one will come to their help if these “refugees” decide to take what they seem to believe is theirs already—because someone told them so, I guess. We are adrift in a sea of enemies, and the front-line in this war will run along the welcome mats at our front doors.

I find myself in a nightmare unable to wake up. Most people feel helpless and unwilling to accept the sad truth: we have been betrayed by everyone (except perhaps the police and the military) we entrusted with our safety and our hopes for the future. Even though the end of the global economy in its current form seemed a given to me, this kind of treason and ill intent to bring it all down took me by surprise. Among the twenty or so people I talked to about this in confidence, absolutely everyone is convinced that this is heading toward civil war—and fast! The only question remaining is whether the Germans start it, or the “refugees,” or some other party. We are one mayor terror attack away from sheer chaos. I have heard from several people connected to European security circles that the illegal weapons market is completely sold out, with many dealers holding on to their weapons for their own personal use. This is a rumour, but since we have been forced to depend on hearsay for any real information right now, I tend to believe it.

There is a small protest movement making headlines in Germany and even internationally. The PEGIDA movement has been gathering every Monday in Dresden to protest European immigration policy for a whole year now. They have had plenty of support since bad immigration policy has given rise to this manufactured “Völkerwanderung” (mass migration). On the October 19—the one-year anniversary gathering—around 35-40 thousand people came to protest peacefully, only to be attacked by several thousand violent “protesters” from the Antifa movement. An allegedly anti-fascist group, so violent and fascist in their behavior they would make for excellent recruiting material for the actual fascists of the SA or the NSDAP. One of the PEGIDA followers was beaten and severely wounded with a metal pole even before the gathering started. Several hundred policemen had to fight for their lives for hours. The Antifa, which is known to many as the second executive of the government, is nothing but an effective mobile force to quell resistance, exactly like the SA, only without the nice uniforms. Wherever demonstrations are announced, the Antifa members will travel there to express their opinion with “hard-hitting” arguments.

Unsurprisingly, PEGIDA is a prime target for hatred and defamation right now. As small as it is, the establishment seems to consider it as real danger, since their complete press gag order against it during the last year did not choke it off. But as important as they might be locally, the outcome seems to be irreversible. The invasion has succeeded already. With each passing day the numbers turn more and more against us. By now the best outcome is a civil war within months, reversing this development. The worst outcome is complete disintegration of European nations within the next few years, rendering large parts of the continent ungovernable. The divorce between the government and the people is almost complete by now. No sane person believes the press or the politicians. The ones who do retreat into fantasies of hate and self hatred. Never before was it more visible to me that this society is completely broken, with every key element, acting against both individual and collective interests, seemingly following orders while digging their own graves.

Once again, unquestioning obedience has taken over German society, but this time without the consent by the masses, because this time the final solution concerns them. The chaos that will follow will by no means be an accident: it is engineered and ordered.

Once again, yet another generation will have to answer to their grandchildren: How could you let this happen?

Alex S.


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By now the best outcome is a civil war within months, reversing this development. The worst outcome is complete disintegration of European nations within the next few years, rendering large parts of the continent ungovernable. The divorce between the government and the people is almost complete by now. No sane person believes the press or the politicians...end quote

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Saturday, November 7, 2015 7:58 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


radio guy reads letter
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anyways i will give u guys a feel of the bloggers opinions, some conservative, some left, some extreme on this


Legality is really meaningless unless the laws are enforced. You can crow all you want about something, but if Germany and other nations said enough, and started deporting migrants en masse who would stop them? Nobody.
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=351342&sta
rt=5675


http://ottersandsciencenews.blogspot.com/2015/09/facing-muslim-invasio
n-europe-and-west.html

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Europeans stopped having enough children. Too much trouble taking care of them. Besides, women had to realize their full potential and motherhood was inconvenient.

So Germany imported Muslims from Turkey to fill the gap that war and fewer babies left in the working force. Other European countries too invited Muslim migrants and asylum seekers.

And Britain allowed the Labour Party to throw the doors wide open to millions of migrants from Asia and Africa, no questions asked. For the sake of diversity, they said.

Scandinavia found that giving asylum to people of color assuaged their white guilt. Sweden then imported leftist Chileans fleeing the right wing dictatorship they themselves had unleashed with their own Marxist excesses during the Salvador Allende rule.

Chileans integrated well. They intermarried. They became Swedish. So Sweden said the more the merrier. With no more Chileans on their waiting list, they decided to invite Muslims. Big mistake.



http://the-eyeontheworld.blogspot.com/2015/09/islamic-invasion-of-euro
pe-update_26.html

Bulgaria's Orthodox Church has called on its government not to let any more Muslim refugees into the country to prevent an "invasion".

The Balkan EU member has largely been bypassed by the hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing conflict and poverty, many of whom set off from Greece through neighbouring Macedonia and Serbia towards northern Europe.

But Bulgaria has still seen Syrians, Afghans and Iraqis cross its southeastern border from Turkey.

"We help refugees who have already arrived in our motherland, but the government must absolutely not let more refugees in," the church -- which claims 80 percent of the population as its followers -- said late Friday on its website.

"This is a wave that looks like an invasion."

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Here are 3 alternative opinions on the status of the human beings currently in east and central Europe who are in the news for a number of reasons.
http://thetruthserumblog.blogspot.com/2015/09/refugees-migrants-or-inv
ading-muslim.html



Ten concerns about the Muslim invasion of Europe aka "The Refugee Crisis"
http://mikesmithspoliticalcommentary.blogspot.com/2015/09/ten-concerns
-about-muslim-invasion-of.html

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The "Refugee" Invasion of the Baltic States and the Islamic Conquest of Europe
http://canspeccy.blogspot.com/2015/10/why-european-multiculturalism-me
ans.html




http://anonvox.blogspot.com/2015/09/the-whole-situation-with-muslim.ht
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Half an hour ago on the border between Italy and Austria I saw with my own eyes a great many immigrants …

I saw how they surrounded a car of an elderly Italian woman, pulled her by her hair out of the car and wanted to drive away in the car. They tried to overturn the bus I travelled in myself with a group of others. They were throwing feces at us, banging on the doors to force the driver to open them, spat at the windscreen … I ask for what purpose? How is this savagery to assimilate in Germany?

I felt for a moment as though I was in a war … I really feel sorry for these people, but if they reached Poland – I do not think that they would get any understanding from us … We were waiting three hours at the border which ultimately could not cross.

Our whole group was transported back to Italy in a police-cordon. The bus is damaged, covered with feces, scratched, with broken windows. And this is supposed to be an idea for demographics? These big powerful hordes of savages?

Among them there were virtually no women, no children—the vast majority were aggressive young men … Just yesterday, while reading about them on all the websites I subconsciously felt compassion, worried about their fate but today after what I saw I am just afraid and yet I am happy that they did not choose our country as their destination. We Poles are simply not ready to accept these people – neither culturally nor financially.

I do not know if anyone is ready. To the EU a pathology is marching which we had not yet a chance to ever see, and I am sorry if anyone gets offended …

I can add that cars arrived with humanitarian aid – mainly food and water and they were just overturning those cars …

Through megaphones the Austrians announced that there is permission for them to cross the border—they wanted to register them and let them go on—but they did not understand these messages. They did not understand anything.

And this was the greatest horror … For among those few thousand people nobody understood Italian or English, or German, or Russian, or Spanish … What mattered was fist law… They fought for permission to move on and they had this permission— but did not realize that they had it!

They opened the luggage hatches of a French bus—and everything that was inside was stolen within a short time, some things left lying on the ground …

Never in my short life had I an opportunity to see such scenes and I feel that this is just the beginning.

Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Oman, the three nations supporting the Islamic ravaging throughout Iraq and Syria, have accepted zero of the refugees? Well of course not. They are part of the conspiracy and are using the refugees to invade Europe

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http://saberpoint.blogspot.com/2015/09/the-muslim-invasion-of-europe-o
r.html

The "refugees" should be turned back. Let them enjoy the fruits of their sacred culture. They have spent centuries building it, now let them enjoy it to the fullest. We do not need this disruptive, violent and hostile culture in our midst. See it for what it is, an invasion by hostiles, who come not to assimilate into our culture, but to replace it with theirs. It is a process known as stealth jihad.


http://galliawatch.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-islamic-invasion-of-europe
.html

The Maghrebin traffickers and passers, slave traders of the 21st century, deliberately and cynically overload the boats so that they sink. Playing upon the soft hearts of the Europeans, they thus lure them to come to the aid of the victims; and encourage the landings on the shores of Europe. A vicious circle.

The blackmail of Daesh is formulated in this way: abandon on the boats 700,000 boat people. The Islamic State is behind these organized flotillas and this exodus is regarded by its manipulators as a dissimulated invasion. To destabilize naive Europe. Ninety percent of the illegals entering en masse are Muslims. On April 16, twelve African Christians were thrown overboard by Muslims.

Italy is the veritable port of entry of the invasion. The phenomenon has been going on for some time, in small doses, but ever since Qadhafi and the Libyan State disappeared, yielding to the chaos of Islamic militias, through the stupid fault of the Franco-British military operation (Sarkozy on the advice of the idiot BHL, and Cameron), the door of the invasion is wide open.

Note: He points out that in 2014 the refugees cost the Italian State 800 million euros, of which 45 million was paid by the EU. In 2015 it will be three times that amount. Operations Triton and Mare Nostrum, while supposedly protecting the shores of Europe, in fact encourage more refugees than the chaos in Libya because they give assistance to the boat people who are led to believe the trip is safe. Many illegals refuse to give their finger prints and give false identities, preferring to remain illegal, knowing no one can expel them. Their goal: Germany, Benelux, Austria, France. They regard Europeans as patsies who don't defend themselves.

He then goes on to denounce the governments of Europe:

Currently a majority of ethnic Europeans, especially those from the working classes, are no longer moved by the "distress of the migrants"; they've had enough of this invasion of illegals - 90% of them Muslims - that they can see will end in catastrophe. The political and media oligarchy in power, allied with humanitarian associations, show-biz celebrities, Churches, etc… does nothing - quite the contrary - to stem the tide. It believes itself to be safe. In Italy - sheer madness - they have just abolished the crime of illegal immigration from the Penal Code. The more the evil grows, the more it is exacerbated.
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http://cathcon.blogspot.com/2015/09/hungarian-bishop-concerned-speaks-
of.html

The bishop of the border town of Szeged, on the border with Serbia and Romania, where tens of thousands of refugees from countries such as Syria have reached the EU, stood behind Prime Minister, Viktor Orban and his hard-line policy on refugees.


http://romanianconservative.blogspot.com/2015/09/cargo-of-refugees-pla
nned-invasion.html

Instead of choosing refuge in Arab-speaking countries with the same religion, ethnic groups, and form of government, the young Muslims choose the very countries they despise whose religion they want to destroy and replace with their own.

These “refugees” are so deprived, sporting leisurely well-dressed tourist attire with cell phones, are throwing packages of Red Cross bottled water and food onto railroad tracks in a Budapest train station because a cross is offensive to their religion.
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http://arcticcompass.blogspot.com/2015/09/europe-is-changing-from-musl
im-refugee.html

Cultural diversity has been a dismal failure in Europe
Those who live and work in the west understand that a few real refugees are not the problem but the Muslim theocratic culture and religion which are not compatible with the European Christian culture. They give examples of Pakistani Muslims who install themselves in violent enclaves and rape girls in groups.
Many citizens suggested that lefties should integrate the existing Muslims into the European culture first before attempting to bring in more religionists of peace. Cultural diversity has been a dismal failure in Europe as both Angela Merkel and Nikolas Sarkozy publicly admitted.




http://the-eyeontheworld.blogspot.com/2015/11/islamic-invasion-of-euro
pe-update_6.html


November 6, 2015
Islamic invasion of Europe update

Greece

Thousands of refugees and other migrants are heading to the Greek mainland from the eastern Aegean islands after the country's seamen's union called off rolling 48-hour ferry strikes.

The strike, which began Monday, had stranded an estimated 25,000 people on the islands. Ferries began operating again Friday morning.

Several ships dedicated to refugees set sail from the islands of Lesbos and Chios, while others were taking ships from other islands on the regular passenger ferry service.


http://ottersandsciencenews.blogspot.com/2015/11/the-muslim-invasion-o
f-europe-good-bye.html


How the Mohammed Retirement Plan will kill Europe


Sweden Close to Collapse

If the wave of migrants keeps coming, in 10-15 years, Swedes will be a minority in their own country. That there is, in fact, an exchange of populations going on, should be clear in any sober assessment.
"The final consequence of... Sweden's immigration policy is that the economy will collapse -- because who is going to pay for it all? And economic breakdowns, once they happen, always happen very fast." -- Lars Hedegaard.
In the last two weeks, more than 1,000 "unaccompanied refugee children" have arrived from Germany via ferry; more than half of them have now vanished and are listed as missing. (They turned out to have been fully grown men.)
For the last few weeks, the central train station in Sweden's third largest city, Malmö, has been overrun with migrants; the volunteers that for the first few days showed up with food, water and clothes now seem to have lost interest.
It will not be long until the Swedes realize that the state will not look after them. The country that just 20 years ago was considered one of the safest and most affluent in the world, is now in danger of becoming a failed state.



Why should 23-year-old Mohammed work for four decades so that Hans or Fritz across the way can retire at 61 and lie on a beach in Mallorca? The idea that Mohammed would ever want to do such a thing out of love for Europe was a silly fantasy that European governments fed their worried citizens.

Mohammed doesn’t share European values. Nor are they likely to take hold of him no matter how often the aging teachers, who hope he gets a job and subsidizes their retirement, try to drill them into his head.


http://forums.inlandtoday.com/showthread.php?27468-BOZO-wants-10-Thous
and-Siryan-Refugees&s=c402b6bca23386be7641852208eed13d

Middle Eastern Immigrants Statistics.
Read Em and Weap...
https://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,120427.225.html
Here I wrote about setting up safe havens, like Singapore, for the refugees.

Mr. Sawiris presents a reasonable, exploitable, course of action. The islands of the Med, and in particular the Aegean, have been built, over the millenia, on exactly this type of population movement, and have given rise to some notable island cultures: Cyprus, Crete, Rhodes, Malta....

This is the type of activity that Canada could help the Europeans support and could be a gateway, a controlled gateway, to Canada and Europe - or it could become a destination in and of itself.

" Think of this as an invasion rather than immigration. "



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Saturday, November 7, 2015 10:48 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, November 7, 2015 11:12 AM

ELVISCHRIST




"No sane person believes the press..."

Says the conspiracy theorist who just posted a wall of press clippings.

Classic.

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Saturday, November 7, 2015 11:51 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


THESE are desperate refugees:


THESE? NOT SO MUCH

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-16/refugees-vs-riot-police-photo
-album-frontlines-europes-migrant-crisis


Now, I DO understand why most of these immigrants (not refugees) are young men. We have that here is the States: Young men are more apt to make the journey, then they send for their families. One nation which isn't bothered much by immigrants is Cyprus, because that nation has no commitment to reuniting families.

But there are a couple of things to really question about this crisis:

WHY NOW??? Not all of the refugees are from Syria, in fact, almost half are from Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya. You can't explain the sudden influx because of a change in fighting. I can't help but think that many of these refugees have been cooling their heels in Turkey for a year or two (or more) and Turkey for reasons of its own has sent them on their way by opening the border.

WHATEVER HAPPENED TO ALL OF THOSE FANCY SECURITY MEASURES WHICH ALLOWED THE SNOOPING OF EVERYONE EVERYWHERE IN EUROPE? After years of trying to lock everything and everyone down, Germany just suddenly made it impossible to apply even the MOST BASIC screening and tracking of migrants.

MERKEL, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING? For the life of me I can't think of a single reason why Merkel would have opened the floodgates to a migration of millions of people, and then insist that other EU nations do the same.

It will all come undone with just one terrorist act in the EU which can be laid at the feet of a migrant, and then all hell will break loose.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

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Saturday, November 7, 2015 12:09 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Are Miliband and Albright purposefully misleading the media about numbers of refugees coming to the US?

https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2015/11/07/are-miliband
-and-albright-purposefully-misleading-the-media-about-numbers-of-refugees-coming-to-the-us
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In recent years the Obama Administration has invited 70,000 refugees from around the world to live in America. For FY2016 (which got underway on Oct. 1) he has increased the number to 85,000 with 10,000 of those supposedly to be reserved for Syrians (mostly Muslims).

Obama says he wants to increase the number from 85,000 to 100,000 (from all countries) for the last year (FY2017) for which he will have an opportunity to set the level. Miliband and his fellow contractors wanted Obama to admit 100,000 Syrians (on top of about 70,000 other refugees) this fiscal year. So where did the 100,000 over five years come from? No wonder the media is having a tough time sorting out the numbers (I see some crazy numbers out there!)!

Then this moaning about Europe…. where is the compassion? (Emphasis below is mine.)

Albright’s statement came during a sit-down interview in the BuzzFeed office alongside David Miliband, the British former Labour Party politician and current head of the International Rescue Committee, to discuss the influx that has seen more than 218,000 people attempt to enter Europe by sea in October alone, the same number that made the voyage in all of 2014 combined.

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Saturday, November 7, 2015 2:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
radio guy reads letter
[ url= https:// www. youtube.com/ watch?v=MxM2cPk-pEk
] video [/ url]

edit
can't post vids anymore :(
!!

You can if you remove the "s" after http
Do it like this:



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



thanks Second!
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Saturday, November 7, 2015 2:53 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


The population of Germany is 80 million give or take. Of those more than 16 million people are of foreign/immigrant descent (first and second generation*) ... About seven million of them are foreign residents. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Germany
* The term first-generation can refer to either people who were born in one country and relocated to another, or to their children born in the country they have relocated to. The term second-generation refers to children of first-generation immigrants, and thus exhibits the same ambiguity.


Less ambiguous designations come from here:
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/germany-population/
... it's 2015 population is now estimated at 82.5 million ...Just under 10 million people living in Germany today were born outside of Germany -- that's about 12% of the German population. Most immigrants come from other European countries, particularly from Turkey, Russia, Poland and Italy.



So what I think these figures show is that Germany has a substantial European population, though not necessarily entirely German.

I fail to see how 1 or 2 million more immigrants will significantly change German demographics.






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Saturday, November 7, 2015 3:05 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


more film footage











and
some alarmist vids




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Saturday, November 7, 2015 5:30 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


check the net there are many boards and online communities discussing
if these are real refugees or if its a cultural invasion

http://wethepeopleusa.ning.com/forum/topics/report-record-42-million-i
mmigrants-in-us-today-1-in-10-americans?commentId=2482704%3AComment%3A227491&xg_source=activity

http://nyfirearms.com/forums/off-topic/99703-refugees-illegal-immigrat
ion-invasion.html

http://sheekyforums.com/thread/52371875/politics/it-is-over.html
http://forum.comeonboro.com/index.php?topic=105639.0
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?73832-refugees-kidnapp
-children-and-shit-in-public

http://www.scout.com/college/miami/forums/2937-town-hall/14154292-so-w
e-re-gonna-allow-200-000-refugee-s-in

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=293332.0
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385315&page=2
https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1485020
http://www.gpforums.co.nz/threads/503229-letting-more-refugees-into-nz
/page3

http://www.f169bbs.com/bbs/show_topic/72563-australia-tells-refugees-t
o-fuck-off-resettles-them-in-third-world-shithole-papua-new-guinea/2

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22324678#22324678
https://atheistforums.org/thread-29194.html
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/extended-discussion/this-european-refu
gee-crisis-is-pissing-me-off/t.98031007
/
http://eso-community.net/thread/3506/european-forum-members-thoughts-i
mmigration?page=2

https://www.germanic-worlds.org/forums/showthread.php?44720-Mass-Invas
ion-of-Europe-2015/page11

http://truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/65851-isis-plan-wins-eu
rope-invaded.html?start=40

http://www.teaparty.org/refugee-crisis-planned-invasion-europe-120271/
http://themess.net/forum/political-discussion/57437-refugee-crisis-in-
europe-news-and-discussion/page46

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=979231
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/
refugee-resettlement-watch/30
/
http://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/4642-the-walking-economic-immig
rants-called-refugees-invasion-of-europe-18
/
http://www.xdtalk.com/threads/the-refugee-invasion-in-europe-not-a-pre
tty-sight.278960
/
http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?2459868-Refugees-Or-Invasion/
page7

http://www.perspectives.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=265909
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=168741463&pagenumbe
r=1

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?697490-The-European-Refu
gee-Crisis/page34

http://creativityalliance.com/forum/index.php?topic=8688.0
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1948427&page=33
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus43998-220.html
http://forum.virtualtourist.com/Kos_Island-422449-12-10343146/Illegal-
migrants.html



this one is classic
Quote:


I don't think the AP is partisan....

When Uruguay announced last year that it would be taking in five families fleeing Syria's devastating civil war, residents of this small town pulled together and lobbied to host one.

Then in November, locals welcomed a newly arrived Merhi Alshebli, his wife and their 15 children with food and seeds to plant vegetables. People in Juan Lacaze, a coastal city of fishermen and paper factory workers in southwestern Uruguay, wanted to do their part to help a country where more than 200,000 have been killed in the fighting.

But after months of the Syrians' complaints about their living conditions and demands to be sent to another country, many Uruguayans in this town and elsewhere have come to see the refugees more as rude, ungrateful guests. This month the 51-year-old Alshebli shocked locals by dousing himself in gasoline in protest, furthering Uruguayans' indignation and sense that this South American nation's humanitarian gesture has gone off the rails.

"I'm outraged," said Monica Benitez, who works at a shoe store in Juan Lacaze's tiny downtown. "What they are doing is offensive."
And that's only 5 families........imagine Europe, taking in 100's of thousands.





Popular comments from social media elsewhere in Europe, where videos are being shown of the migrants [scuffing with police] breaking through numerous countries borders, police checkpoints and barricades.

No respect for the law, violence, rioting, attacking the police, smashing through boarders and smashing up train stations, leaving mountains of litter everywhere they've been by refusing to use the bins, numerous reports of rapes in the camps, no documentation or i.d to confirm who they are or where they've come from and ISIS openly claiming they have their fighters blended into this mass of people. when is the e.u going to stop this? Germany has a lot to answer for inviting millions in. This is madness.



Give them a inch and they will take all they can , they have no respect and know how to play the system whatever they see a camera they put a children in front of them . They are already safe in Croatia but they want more they want wealth countries . So you can see that they are not asylum seekers anymore they are economic migrants . The greed overcome the need


Now won't it have been nice if they had put up as much of a fight against ISIS in there home land



ILLEGAL MIGRANTS ...



A horde of invading Islamics,,swarming all across Europe.....with nobody standing up to them (except Hungary).....SHAME.....on our politicians.



Hungary was right to close borders.



90% Men....... Cowards......



Why do they need keep moving through Europe when they're already safe?



They are invading every European Country !! Why they are not breaking through Dubai or the other United Arab Emirates huhh ??



No! Shame on BBC! Everybody is lying! Shame! Hungary is protecting it's border which is the southest border of EU also... if Hungary closes it's border everybody is flaying the country... but now, when most EU countries are also closing their borders no one say anything! It' a huge mendacity! There are only maximum 10 percent of these "refugees" who are coming from those countries where is war... all the others are economical migrants! If they do not bear themselves well, go back their home countries... Europe don't need them! U.S shut it's mouth also... they were the first who made fence on it's Mexican border and do not want to welcome them.... but you know, U.S disrupted most of those countires where these pople comes... send huge ships to Europe and take them to the U.S... and shut up!



This was inevitable from the day that Merkel impulsively threw open the borders and put out the welcome mat before there even being some sort of plan in place to constructively and securely help genuine refugees. In an attempt to gain back popularity after the fiasco with Greece, it has backfired. For anyone travelling by plane however, you'll still be subjected to the usual security checks!


i give 1 week to Croatia, and i am pretty sure, they are going to close the border. No country in Europe can handle this. People who are supporting the "refugee"s!!! They said these people running from war. This is not true. Most of them are economical migrants, and saw the opportunity to enter Eu, if they declare to be Syrian. Germany made a huge mistake when opened the border without any regulation. And now what is gonna happen? When Germany is full, closing the border, and these people gonna be stuck in other Europian countries. No matter how negative lights Hungary gets, we are right and we step up for what we think is right. Western Europe is attacking Hungary, because we close the border. Just a question, when was it possible to enter a country, without visa, passport? And i am not talking about Eu now. Every country has a RIGHT to decide who wants to let to enter, People should watch some videos on ytube. not only bbc itv or channel4 news, where the truth is always hidden. Lately i read a lot comments and 80% are on Hungary's side.



"According to the registration numbers from the Hungarian Bureau of Immigration, 82% of the migrants are MEN, of them 75% between 18-35 years old. This shows that the vast majority of them are not refugees but economic migrants. Real refugees don't flee leaving their women and elderly to die in the war." Do not forget people, our politicians are failing us. There is NO plan for how to deal with or how to integrate migrants Muslims into Western nations. What are the oil rich Arab nations doing to help their own? Why has Saudi Arabia offered to pay and build 200 mosques in Germany? Why doesn't Saudi Arabia use this money to build homes for these fellow Muslims in Saudi Arabia?



This is Europe's future. Muslims ignoring all laws and taking what they wish.



What gives them the right to do this.



Break through a police line and illegally enter a country without passing through any form of security......lock and load



I now feel sorry for the people of Croatia..the European Union will be making a decision next week on what to do next. Meanwhile back in the real world countries are being invaded, riots, and the water you handed out used as weapons...Children used as human shields, crushed in the stampede and the proper legal process ignored.. I started out feeling deep sympathy for these people but now I feel angry..



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Saturday, November 7, 2015 5:34 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Merkel is an idiot. If you allow refugees into your country you're supposed to put them in places that can accommodate them. And it behooves you to have a system in place where you can keep track of them.

As for the immigrants being mostly young, healthy, well-fed men what I noticed consistently in news items from war-torn and natural-disaster areas around the globe - when the food trucks finally show up it's the healthy young men - and depending where it is, wearing fatigues and carrying guns - who show up first in line.

The big eyed-kids and patient moms come last and get the left-overs.













Lest you think this is a problem of the 'uncivilized' world, when it comes to marine disasters, young, wealthy white males survive in a far excess proportion to their numbers. 'Women and children first' is a fantasy.

Finally, Turkey was holding a minimum of 2 million immigrants within its borders. For some reason, the supposedly ever vigilant global network of twitterers missed that salient fact. Which points up the facts that just because you don't hear about it - even in the twitter verse - doesn't mean it's not happening. A million trend followers are - still following trends, not facts. And Turkey has no love at this point for Germany or Europe. I can perfectly imagine the government giving people directions, some cash, and a story that they rightfully deserve to get something from Europe - then opening the gates. Erdogan wants to establish the new Ottoman Sultanate. I can't imagine a handier way to weaken your enemy, solve an internal problem, and advance your cause than to release the most troublesome people in your borders and point them at your enemy.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Sunday, November 8, 2015 4:12 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


How Do Syrian Women Feel about the Men Leaving for Europe as Refugees?


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Sunday, November 8, 2015 5:11 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Norway, Iceland, Sweden used to have very low crime rates, low rapes, low disease rates, shootings were almost unheard of, no drive by shootings, many around the world would ask why is Violent Crime so Rare in Iceland, Norwway Sweden? Was it culture? Education and wages? Was it their homogenity or language or something else? In the 70s and 80s Sweden starts to take in immigrants from Chile and Peru, they came to Sweden, worked, integrated and learn the Swedish langauge. Then some years back Sweden decides it needs to be more multi-cultural and starts importing thousands from Iran, N.Africa, Pakistan, Iraq etc and you can guess what happens next...violent crime and rape skyrockets, In 2012, a pair of female journalists in Sweden visited 10 of Sweden's largest mosques and asked for advice on issues surrounding abuse from husbands and non-consensual sex. The conversations were secretly filmed and recorded. Six out of the ten mosques said that the women should agree to sex with their husbands even if they didn't want to. One imam said "don't refuse to give him love, because then he might change". Only 2/10 mosques "gave the women clear advice directing them to report their physically abusive husbands to police". 9/10 mosques wrongly told the women that men had the right to more than one wife - in Sweden, no-one has the right to more than one marital partner. Only one mosque told the women that her husband shouldn't have more than one wife because he should follow Swedish law. In an astounding number of cases, the Swedish leftist marxist courts have demonstrated sympathy for these immigrant gang rapists, and have acquitted suspects who have claimed that the girl wanted to have sex with six, seven or eight men.One of the worst cases occurred in 2012, when a 30-year old woman was raped by eight men in a housing project for asylum seekers, in the small town of Mariannelund. The woman was an acquaintance of a man from Afghanistan who had lived in Sweden for a number of years. He invited her to go out with him. She obliged. The Afghan man took her to a refugee housing project and left her defenseless. During the night, she was raped repeatedly by the asylum seekers and when her "friend" returned, he raped her too. The following morning she managed to call the police. Sweden's public prosecutor has called the incident "the worst crime of rape in Swedish criminal history." Seven of the men were sentenced to between 4.5 and 6.5 years in prison. Prison time is usually reduced by a third, so it won't be long before the men will be ready for new assaults -- presumably on infidel women.
Leftist mentally ill thought police running the Swedish nation and mentally distrubed marxists running Swedens radio and newspapers
One striking incident occurred in 2013, in the Stockholm suburb of Tensta. A 15-year-old girl was locked up while six men of foreign extraction had sex with her. The lower court convicted the six men but the court of appeals acquitted them because no violence had occurred, and because the court determined that the girl "had not been in a defenseless position."
All major Swedish media reported on a brutal gang rape on board the Finnish Ferry Amorella, running between Stockholm and Åbo in Finland. Big headlines told the readers that the perpetrators were Swedish:
"Several Swedish Men Suspected of Rape on the Finland Ferry" (Dagens Nyheter).
"Six Swedish Men Raped Woman in Cabin" (Aftonbladet).
"Six Swedes Arrested for Rape on Ferry" (Expressen).
"Eight Swedes Suspected of Rape on Ferry" (TT – the Swedish News Agency).

On closer inspection, it turned out that seven of the eight suspects were Somalis and one was Iraqi. None of them had Swedish citizenship, so they were not even Swedish in that sense. According to witnesses, the group of men had been scouring the ferry looking for sex. The police released four of them (but they are still suspects) whereas four (all Somalis) remain in custody.

The internet radio station Granskning Sverige called the mainstream newspapers Aftonposten and Expressen to ask why they had described the perpetrators as "Swedish men" when they were actually Somalis. That is irrelevant, said the journalists. They were hugely offended when asked if they felt any responsibility to warn Swedish women to stay away from certain men. One journalist asked why that should be their responsibility.

"If the women knew, then perhaps they would have stayed away from these men and avoided being raped," said the reporter from Granskning Sverige. Whereupon the journalist slammed down the phone.


http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/islam_western.html



Woman ‘gang-raped in refugee camp ordered to stay SILENT by no-borders activists’

Sex gangs are continuing to prey on vulnerable young girls in Rotherham Britain despite last year’s damning revelations of systemic and sustained abuse of more than 1,400 girls, the town’s MP has claimed.

Sarah Champion, the town’s Labour MP since 2012, has revealed recent publicity had prompted many women to come forward to speak to her about how they had been abused, with around 10 percent of them describing new incidents.

It comes just weeks after a criminal investigation was launched into a damning new report that found Rotherham Council was ‘not fit for purpose’ and still ‘in denial’ about the 1,400 young girls who were abused in the town over 16 years.

Diversity means - Muslim Rape Gangs still operating in Rotherham England



ALL rapes in Oslo, Norway are by Immigrants, Muslim Asylum Seekers
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/video-all-rapes-in-oslo-norway
-are-by-immigrants
/



So what happened when Norway which — according to the CIA fact book, has a Muslim population of 2.3% — deported 71,000 of those Islamic radicals?

The crime rate DROPPED by more than 30%!

That number isn’t politically correct, but it’s still true.

http://conservativepapers.com/news/2015/05/10/norway-waking-up-norway-
deports-muslims-crime-rate-drops-31
/

PU head Kristin Kvigne, speaking in an interview in the Dagsavisen newspaper, said that the increased deportations “save Norwegian society much money. It costs money to process people in the courts and to jail them.
Norway Waking up..Norway Deports Muslims; Crime Rate Drops 31%


Quote:

George Soros:

Soros Admits Involvement In Migrant Crisis: ‘National Borders Are The Obstacle’

And his official essay:
http://www.georgesoros.com/essays/rebuilding-the-asylum-system/

Quote

First, the EU has to accept at least a million asylum-seekers annually for the foreseeable future. And, to do that, it must share the burden fairly – a principle that a qualified majority finally established at last Wednesday’s summit.

Adequate financing is critical. The EU should provide €15,000 ($16,800) per asylum-seeker for each of the first two years to help cover housing, health care, and education costs – and to make accepting refugees more appealing to member states. It can raise these funds by issuing long-term bonds using its largely untapped AAA borrowing capacity, which will have the added benefit of providing a justified fiscal stimulus to the European economy.





Can Germany put the Genie back in the bottle?
https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2015/11/07/can-germany-
put-the-genie-back-in-the-bottle
/

Find out what's going on in your community with 'refugee resettlement'

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/

Eight years ago it came to our attention in Washington County MD that a non-profit group (Virginia Council of Churches) had been bringing refugees into the city of Hagerstown (county seat) for a couple of years. Some problems arose and citizens started to take an interest and ask questions about how this federal program works. Our local paper had no interest in finding the facts, so we decided to find them ourselves.

One of the many startling things we found out about this very quiet effort is that these non-profit groups bring to the US on average each year 15,000 (FY90-FY03) Muslim refugees from the Middle East, Africa, the Balkans, etc, almost completely funded by the US Government through grants and contracts to these non-government agencies…. Although we all have sympathy for persecuted and suffering people there are real questions to be answered about the wisdom of this policy.

It turns out that there are hotbeds of this refugee resettlement controversy throughout the US. We have identified some of those. Because the issue is much more complicated than we initially realized, we have set up this online community organizing center at https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/.

If you have information or questions from your communities about Refugee Resettlement please get in touch with Ann Corcoran at RefugeeWatcher@gmail.com.


Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/10/find_out_whats_going_o
n_in_your_community_with_refugee_resettlement_.html#ixzz3qtS9GZ5O

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http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/08/claim-british-accents-linke
d-by-intelligence-services-to-sharm-el-sheikh-attack
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The Sunday Express has published the startling claim that London and Birmingham accents were picked up by intelligence services, celebrating just moments after the Sharm el-Sheikh attack on a Russian airliner


https://twitter.com/ActForAmerica/status/662757590850498560
Remember we are 10 yrs behind Europe. The horrors that we are seeing there today is #America's future! #refugeecrisis #RadicalIslam

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/08/anti-mass-migration-meps-of
fice-attacked-car-firebombed-past-fortnight
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Anti Mass Migration MEP’s Office Attacked AND Car Firebombed In The Past Fortnight

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Sunday, November 8, 2015 9:09 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Sweden has a very high reported rape rate. India, according to reports, has a very low rate of rape.

Is is truly possible that Swedish women are more subject to rape than Indian women?


Quote:

There have been several international comparisons made, placing Sweden at the top end of the number of reported rapes. However, police procedures and legal definitions vary widely across countries, which makes it difficult to compare rape statistics. For example, Sweden reformed its sex crime legislation and made the legal definition of rape much wider in 2005, which largely explains a significant increase in the number of reported rapes in the ten-year period of 2004-2013. The Swedish police also record each instance of sexual violence in every case separately, leading to an inflated number of cases compared to other countries. Additionally, the Swedish police have improved the handling of rape cases, in an effort to increase the number of crimes reported.

Raised awareness and a shifting attitude of sexual crimes in Sweden, which has been ranked as the number one country in gender equality, may also explain the relatively high rates of reported rape.



Quote:

In an astounding number of cases, the Swedish leftist marxist courts have demonstrated sympathy for these immigrant gang rapists, and have acquitted suspects who have claimed that the girl wanted to have sex with six, seven or eight men.


There are no statistics attached to this anecdote. HOW MANY cases? What percentage? Is it any different than the percentage of ethnic Swedish male acquittal? The story that follows is one where the rapists are NOT acquitted, so it's hardly supportive of the case the author is trying to make. And in that particular case, while the author says that the sentences are light, he makes no comparison to sentences against ethnic Swedes. (Nordic nations tend to hand out very light sentences: Even Anders Breivik, the rightwing Norseman terrorist who killed 77 people, was only given 10 years of actual incarceration!) The story following that was of actual acquittal (supportive), the story following that is one of incarceration for some and continuing investigation for others (not supportive of the statement that rapists are acquitted in an "astounding" number of cases.)

The problems of cultural integration are terrible enough, without resorting to inflated statistics or unsupported anecdote.

For example, in some southern French cities (like Marseilles) there are entire "no-go" zones where girls live under wahhabi-style Islam compounded by young male gangsterism, and anal rape isn't considered rape at all because the girls' virginity is technically preserved. Most of these girls have no idea that they've been raped (according to French law), of if they do they have no idea who to report to or much hope of protection because the French authorities don't get involved.

The mosques in Sweden is a perfect example of ethnic subgroups who refuse to integrate with the larger culture's view of right and wrong; the non-conforming mosques should be immediately closed down and the imams instructed on Swedish law and their responsibility to uphold it. Further violations should result in deportation.

There were immigrant riots in Sweden, more related to unemployment than jihadism.

Quote:

On 19 May 2013, violent disturbances broke out in Husby, a suburb with a relatively high proportion of immigrants and second-generation immigrant residents, including a substantial number from Somalia, Eritrea, Afghanistan and Iraq, in northern Stockholm, Sweden.The riots were reportedly in response to the shooting to death by police of an elderly man ... incorrectly referred to as "non-white". Megafonen also called for a demonstration against "police brutality" on 15 May, two days after the shooting, in the same post.

The disturbances involved several hundred youths and resulted in the injury of at least seven police officers. On Tuesday 28 May, the Stockholm police reported that the situation was "back to normal" with no rioting, only a few burned-out cars, and no reports of unrest in other Swedish towns either.

...Reports suggested that the unrest had been fed by substandard schools and an undercurrent of racism, unemployment, a failure to integrate minorities, and rising social inequality. Some cited the riots as evidence of the failure of Sweden’s immigration policy.



Overall, integrating immigrants into an economy and society is a long and complex process, even if the nation is fully committed and resourced. IN Europe's case, being forced to swallow what will in the end be 2 million immigrants over a short period of time will lead to significant problems.

That some of these migrants (very few of them would qualify as "refugees") are undoubtedly radical jihadists only makes things worse.



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Sunday, November 8, 2015 10:26 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Sweden has a very high reported rape rate. India, according to reports, has a very low rate of rape.

Is is truly possible that Swedish women are more subject to rape than Indian women?


Quote:

There have been several international comparisons made, placing Sweden at the top end of the number of reported rapes. However, police procedures and legal definitions vary widely across countries, which makes it difficult to compare rape statistics. For example, Sweden reformed its sex crime legislation and made the legal definition of rape much wider in 2005, which largely explains a significant increase in the number of reported rapes in the ten-year period of 2004-2013. The Swedish police also record each instance of sexual violence in every case separately, leading to an inflated number of cases compared to other countries. Additionally, the Swedish police have improved the handling of rape cases, in an effort to increase the number of crimes reported.

Raised awareness and a shifting attitude of sexual crimes in Sweden, which has been ranked as the number one country in gender equality, may also explain the relatively high rates of reported rape.



Quote:

In an astounding number of cases, the Swedish leftist marxist courts have demonstrated sympathy for these immigrant gang rapists, and have acquitted suspects who have claimed that the girl wanted to have sex with six, seven or eight men.


There are no statistics attached to this anecdote. HOW MANY cases? What percentage? Is it any different than the percentage of ethnic Swedish male acquittal? The story that follows is one where the rapists are NOT acquitted, so it's hardly supportive of the case the author is trying to make. And in that particular case, while the author says that the sentences are light, he makes no comparison to sentences against ethnic Swedes. (Nordic nations tend to hand out very light sentences: Even Anders Breivik, the rightwing Norseman terrorist who killed 77 people, was only given 10 years of actual incarceration!) The story following that was of actual acquittal (supportive), the story following that is one of incarceration for some and continuing investigation for others (not supportive of the statement that rapists are acquitted in an "astounding" number of cases.)

The problems of cultural integration are terrible enough, without resorting to inflated statistics or unsupported anecdote.

For example, in some southern French cities (like Marseilles) there are entire "no-go" zones where girls live under wahhabi-style Islam compounded by young male gangsterism, and anal rape isn't considered rape at all because the girls' virginity is technically preserved. Most of these girls have no idea that they've been raped (according to French law), of if they do they have no idea who to report to or much hope of protection because the French authorities don't get involved.

The mosques in Sweden is a perfect example of ethnic subgroups who refuse to integrate with the larger culture's view of right and wrong; the non-conforming mosques should be immediately closed down and the imams instructed on Swedish law and their responsibility to uphold it. Further violations should result in deportation.

There were immigrant riots in Sweden, more related to unemployment than jihadism.

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On 19 May 2013, violent disturbances broke out in Husby, a suburb with a relatively high proportion of immigrants and second-generation immigrant residents, including a substantial number from Somalia, Eritrea, Afghanistan and Iraq, in northern Stockholm, Sweden.The riots were reportedly in response to the shooting to death by police of an elderly man ... incorrectly referred to as "non-white". Megafonen also called for a demonstration against "police brutality" on 15 May, two days after the shooting, in the same post.

The disturbances involved several hundred youths and resulted in the injury of at least seven police officers. On Tuesday 28 May, the Stockholm police reported that the situation was "back to normal" with no rioting, only a few burned-out cars, and no reports of unrest in other Swedish towns either.

...Reports suggested that the unrest had been fed by substandard schools and an undercurrent of racism, unemployment, a failure to integrate minorities, and rising social inequality. Some cited the riots as evidence of the failure of Sweden’s immigration policy.



Overall, integrating immigrants into an economy and society is a long and complex process, even if the nation is fully committed and resourced. IN Europe's case, being forced to swallow what will in the end be 2 million immigrants over a short period of time will lead to significant problems.

That some of these migrants (very few of them would qualify as "refugees") are undoubtedly radical jihadists only makes things worse.



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It's mostly subjective. How are records kept. Do women feel comfortable reporting rape and what stigmas are attached to the person reporting the rape. In many countries the victim becomes a victim for a second time if they report the crime.

Here is an interesting tidbit from a story like the one you are quoting about Sweden and should give you a whole different spin on what you are suggesting.

IN SWEDEN;

"when a woman comes to the police and she says my husband or my fiancé raped me almost every day during the last year, the police have to record each of these events, which might be more than 300 events. In many other countries it would just be one record - one victim, one type of crime, one record."

Many countries including advanced countries don't have a good rule of law system in place. Therefore many of the worlds rapes go unreported. What is considered rape in some countries between a husband or spouse, is not considered rape in others.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372


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Sunday, November 8, 2015 1:04 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Sweden gave us the welfare state, its model spread across the Western world but Leftism has now failed Sweden, it was good at the beginging. A good idea when Sweden's poor need help, it might have worked great in the 60s and 70s and 80s....but they have done their job too long. Swedish needed Fresh politics, new blood but the leftists kept power....they have stayed in power too long and became marxists, multi-culturists and radical censoring thought police leftists who dare not hear any truth.

What you see now in Sweden is a self-destruction of leftism and a self destruction of multi-culturalism....think of the regressive leftists and psuedo conservatives who think Islam a religion of peace, the general haters of western civilisation and its norms(See Noam Chomsky, Ted Rall, Gallowaywatch, Seann Penn, Naomi Klein, Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, Michael Moore, guardianista like George Monbiot, Barbara Streisand, etc) Sweden is this - ON STEROIDS

It's not nice to see the far right gain ground, its scary to see the strong rise of ultra party nationalists....but Sweden only has itself to blame







,






maybe, just maybe Swedes are slowly waking up
http://www.thelocal.se/discuss/index.php?showtopic=80296&st=0&
start=0

Sweden's outspoken foreign minister says 'In the long run our system will collapse'
I also recommend another article maybe by the NY times back in 2006? "islam on the outskirts of the welfare state"
"I think most people feel that we cannot maintain a system where perhaps 190,000 people will arrive every year – in the long run, our system will collapse"

What happens in Europe often arrives in the USA within 5 or 10 years, if u think none of this can happen in America only look to Dearborn - a city in the State of Michigan

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Sunday, November 8, 2015 1:38 PM

THGRRI


Again I see you are using a controversial source that mimics the worst of the far right. It doesn't take long here for some to see where others are coming from. The information your sources spew is of little importance to me.



The Rebel Media, www.therebel.media

The Rebel Media (or The Rebel) is a Canadian online conservative political and social commentary media platform founded in February 2015 by former Sun News Network, host Ezra Levant following the demise of the 24-hour news and opinion cable channel. The Rebel Media broadcasts its content on the Rebel Media YouTube channel and the therebel.media webpage.

Sun News was known for its provocative content, right-of-center viewpoints, and frequent controversies. The project emulates American conservative commentator Glenn Beck's subscription based online service"

Glen Beck is a nut.



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Sunday, November 8, 2015 1:49 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


It would have have been FAR MORE effective if the multiculturalism demonstration played THIS over their speakers



just before dawn, just after noon, midway between noon and sunset, and just after sunset. Those are the accepted times for call to prayer. That weird female world-music singing is totally unacceptable to Muslims.

Then, on alternate weekends, they could play



ringing matins, noonday and evening.

Heck, where's their sense of humor???

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Sunday, November 8, 2015 1:54 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Don't attack the personality THGRRI, I don't really care who Ezra Levant is or what these rebelsmedia wrote in the past....instead deal with the message and don't attack the messenger. It would be like me dismissing Michael Moore as a dingbat or a nut and never listening to anything he says or like me attacking everything Eisenhower, Ford, Reagan did....simply because I decide I don't like conservative Republicans. Both the leftwing and rightwing have valid points, you need to jump out of the red vs blue team hypnosis for a second, walk outside the left-right political paradigm and form your own independent thoughts....why is Sweden f*cked?
why are muslims popping out babies like rabbits in the rich euro welfare states
why are nationalists and the far-right on the rise inside the failing EU?


Why is it so few of the left are critical of radical islam? Why is the left afraid to challenge crazy muslims? Ok there are a small handful who do. I've seen the Atheist Dawkins, Bill Maher and Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii....but few else from the Liberal or Democratic camps do it. Unfortunately it takes the loony rightwing, do the left have no backbone today so now we need the wacko nationalistic Christian groups for someone to call out the Islamics?

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Sunday, November 8, 2015 2:05 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I agree, JAYNEZ. SOME folks here, they see a website that looks different and they crap their pants.

And I do agree with your point, there is a significant problem with allowing so many differently-cultured people into a nation. Cultures are more than just interesting music and tasty food, and one of the things embedded in them is a deep sense of what's right and wrong, and what's real and what isn't. And what is a decent time to get up in the AM on Sunday! Immigrants do more than just affect the unemployment rate and social services. Unless they share the same basic views, or at least agree to abide by the laws (and not continue their own) there's going to be continuing conflict. And that's assuming that some of the migrants aren't provocateurs and terrorists.

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Sunday, November 8, 2015 3:18 PM

THGRRI



Quote:

JAYNEZTOWN
Don't attack the personality THGRRI, I don't really care who Ezra Levant is or what these rebelsmedia wrote in the past....instead deal with the message and don't attack the messenger. It would be like me dismissing Michael Moore as a dingbat or a nut and never listening to anything he says or like me attacking everything Eisenhower, Ford, Reagan did....simply because I decide I don't like conservative Republicans. Both the leftwing and rightwing have valid points, you need to jump out of the red vs blue team hypnosis for a second, walk outside the left-right political paradigm and form your own independent thoughts....why is Sweden f*cked?



I see you implying you look at both sides before forming your opinions. Don’t attack the messenger as if to say that is in bad form old boy. If the messenger is the purveyor of a far right message, then the motives and character of the messenger need to be scrutinized.

I see the ferocity of your attack against Muslims and I feel the judgement I have made as to your motives is just. This judgement is not only made based on your” the Muslims are going to take over the world posts”, but is combined with some of the sources you chose to convey that message. With you it’s balls to the wall war.

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JAYNEZTOWN
why are muslims popping out babies like rabbits in the rich euro welfare states



This is what has been said about welfare recipients since the 1800’s in America. It’s one culture attacking another. Throughout our history most welfare recipients have been white. Here’s a fact. About $59 billion is spent on traditional social welfare programs. $92 billion is spent on corporate subsidies here. And the percent of our GDP that goes to welfare is never more that 3 percent. When you figure that 3.8 percent of whites receive welfare and 3.9 percent blacks do. And that blacks only make up 13 percent of our population, whites far outnumber blacks receiving welfare. No other group is even close.

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JAYNEZTOWN
why are nationalists and the far-right on the rise inside the failing EU?



Because that is what they do when they feel threatened. First they inflate their numbers, then lash out. Next it's infiltrate discussions held by others who may have concerns and propagate the conversation with garbage like you have. For the record I think Michael Moore is a failed director who found a niche on the extreme left. I don’t give weight to what he says either.

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JAYENZTOWN
Why is it so few of the left are critical of radical islam? Why is the left afraid to challenge crazy muslims? Ok there are a small handful who do. I've seen the Atheist Dawkins, Bill Maher and Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii....but few else from the Liberal or Democratic camps do it. Unfortunately it takes the loony rightwing, do the left have no backbone today so now we need the wacko nationalistic Christian groups for someone to call out the Islamics?



The left, middle and those slightly to right are having a different conversation that you are unaware of. This is because of the places you source like [Atheist Alliance International] and the agenda you wish to spread. It’s like G said. You showed up spreading the Muslim immigration issue on every thread. That my friend is an agenda, void of an honest discerption of the events or discussion based on the facts.

P.S. Thanks for getting SIG to once again expose her bigoted views.



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Sunday, November 8, 2015 8:39 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Multi-million $$$ Lutheran group lobbies Congress/White House, demands more Syrian Muslim refugees be admitted to US
https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2015/11/08/multi-millio
n-lutheran-group-lobbies-congresswhite-house-demands-more-syrian-muslim-refugees-be-admitted-to-us
/
Here we learn that Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service (LIRS) helped put on a two day lobbying initiative in Washington. Did they do it on your dime?

Before you read on, have a look at the most recently available Form 990 for LIRS. They took in $48,392,082 in gifts and grants and $46,414,735 (p.9) was from GOVERNMENT GRANTS (TAXPAYER DOLLARS!)—that is 96% funded by you. They have at least six employees in the six-figure salary range! See LIRS ritzy Inner Harbor of Baltimore headquarters, here.

Here is the news from Washington:

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


MERKEL, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING? For the life of me I can't think of a single reason why Merkel would have opened the floodgates to a migration of millions of people, and then insist that other EU nations do the same.

It will all come undone with just one terrorist act in the EU which can be laid at the feet of a migrant, and then all hell will break loose.

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I also wondered about the Welfare-Jihad or the baby maker business....at first I thought these were old dinosaur conservative whites being alarmist but now it seems a lot of people talk about the Baby-making-Jihad


some funny thoughts out there










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Originally posted by 1kiki:


So what I think these figures show is that Germany has a substantial European population, though not necessarily entirely German.



I think the argument they make is how this new influx of foreign religion and foreign culture...how it may change Germany...they don't need to out number Germans to make the change, a group only needs to raise its percentage...many believe the other people to be a sworn enemy, they believe the other to be the Infidel or have a book that tells them very negative things about other people's such as the Jews, many believe it is their religious duty to try to spread Islam to non-Muslims. In Denmark muslim youth demand 1,800 USD from non-Muslim as jizyah tax for living in a "Muslim" area because he is "both black and Christian", forced out of his apartment and onto the streets in tears. In Uganda Africa a Pastor, and friend of ex-Muslim pastor who was disfigured and blinded in an acid attack following a Christmas Eve church service, is ambushed and shot at by Muslims for the second time. In Greece Europe 14 people hospitalized as 1,500 Muslim immigrants riot in central Athens, attacking police and damaging shops and cars, in response to an alleged Qur'an desecration
In Ivory Coast Africa at least 1,000 Christians shot and hacked to death with machetes by Muslim troops at the Salesian St. Teresa of the Child Jesus mission in Duekoue. Catholic priests are being targeted, Church facilities looted and destroyed. In Morocco a series of suicide bombings in Casablanca aimed at a Jewish cemetery, Jewish community center, Jewish/Italian restaurants, and the Belgian consulate, kills 45 people and wounds over a 100 more. In the Philippines Muslim Demand for Larger Autonomous Region in Mindanao Could Lead To War. In Thailand the Last Buddhist Family in Narathiwat Village Attacked, Mother Killed & Daughter Injured....the stories go on and on. If Germans and other Western nations keeping importing this culture in the name of multi-culturalism maybe they should ask why many Muslim nations punish apostasy by death, it is impossible to leave islam, once born into the mental prison of islam they are always inside it, they can not leave and become Hindu or become Christian, Atheist, Buddhist, once in islam one can only leave through the death penalty, if you want to quit islam they chop off your head. While radical Muslims demand for concessions in non-Muslim countries, non-Muslims are systematically persecuted, terrorized, religiously purged and ethnically cleansed from Islamic lands....one has to ask will multi-culturalism really work in Europe?? Is ot working in Lebanon....as trends go in Michigan will it "continue" working in Dearborn?




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Monday, November 9, 2015 1:24 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: Is ot working in Lebanon....as trends go in Michigan will it "continue" working in Dearborn?



I wish Frem were around to comment.

Multiculturalism is great... when it works. I think the world is too jammed up with hate and selfishiness for it to work well now. Certainly, it can never be forced to work.



Are you prepared to let Muslim men have four wives wherever it is that you live? To allow African immigrants to practice genital mutilation in your nation? Cockfighting and dog fighting? Bride-kidnapping? Vast swaths where people don't speak the national language, requiring translation services for everything from doctoring to schooling?

There is a limit on how much "multi" culture one can allow in one's own society and still function. People in a society presumably have the same ideas of right and wrong, and feel they're at least moving in the same direction. If you don't have that, you don't have a society.

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Monday, November 9, 2015 2:47 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"they don't need to out number Germans to make the change"

Given the current German population of 82M, and estimating that 2M immigrants will end up there, the final total population will be 84M. Of that population, the newly-arrived immigrants will be 2.4%.

ASSUMING that they're going to be law abiding and not terrorists or just plain hooligans, that extra population with its needs would bump up the German government's budget. Depending on the economy and the budget, it may or may not be a noticeable increase. But CULTURALLY, overall the German people should be able to absorb that minuscule fraction.

OTOH if you put large numbers in small towns of course the nature of that town will change and Germans will complain - rightfully - very loudly.

IF they are NOT law abiding, then of course they become a security risk and invite backlash. Any acts of terrorism, violence, intimidation - or even petty pilfering and vandalism - will create a strong sense of retaliation among the Germans.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Monday, November 9, 2015 5:58 PM

THGRRI



Quote:



Sig

Are you prepared to let Muslim men have four wives wherever it is that you live? To allow African immigrants to practice genital mutilation in your nation? Cockfighting and dog fighting? Bride-kidnapping? Vast swaths where people don't speak the national language, requiring translation services for everything from doctoring to schooling?




Here it is. Another bigoted rant by SIG. Congrats SIG, apparently your concern for others is limited to the white race. As for what your new hero here is posting let me say, as an American I wish you people in Europe would stop starting world wars. In case you have forgotten SIG, bigotry was the reason for WW11. A lack of accepted assimilation for immigrants by Europeans is behind much of problems there.



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Monday, November 9, 2015 6:43 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I think it's reasonable to require immigrants to live by the laws of the country they end up in.

OTOH if you lose control of your borders, you lose control of your society.

Between 11M and 20M illegal aliens live in the US (for purposes of this post, roughly 15M). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigrant_population_of_the_Unit
ed_States
There are about 320M people estimated to be living in the US. That gives the US an illegal alien population of about 4.7%. If 3/4 of them are Mexicans, the US has a Mexican illegal alien population of 3.5%. Most places it's hardly noticeable. But in places where there are concentrations of illegal aliens - and their children who, if they're born here are of course citizens - have a substantial impact on the society.



http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2013/0508/In-Los-Angeles-1-in-10
-residents-is-an-illegal-immigrant-study-says


In Los Angeles, 1 in 10 residents is an illegal immigrant, study says

In Los Angeles County – the nation’s most populous – 1 in 10 residents is illegal. Sixty-three percent of those undocumented residents in Los Angeles are Mexican, 22 percent are from Central America and 8 percent are from the Philippines, China, or Korea.



So, THUGGR - you truly despise blacks. You think that they live in an equal opportunity society and all their problems are self-inflicted. You would prefer, I think, that even though they're legal citizens, that they somehow - disappear. And we all know what a great humanitarian you are. (In case you're too dense to get it, I'm being extremely sarcastic.)

I wonder how you'd feel living in a large place where 10% of EVERYONE was illegal, and 85% of those were Hispanic.

I suspect your veneer of sympathy and acceptance would wear away extremely quickly.

Other than, that, of course you're a fucking hypocrite.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Monday, November 9, 2015 6:46 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


maybe I should have opened with this vid



its the world's illegal immigration or migration illustrated using gum-balls, it has facts, figures and there is no left vs right politics


but on the subject of politics .....personally I feel liberals need to get their sh1t together because reading sites like refugee resettlement watch it seems what's happening in Europe now will soon arrive in the USA by maybe next year...these do-godder Liberals will perhaps gift the election to whichever runner is anti-immigration

You see on the subject of politics most people are brainwashed, its all about the ads, the tv and the funding in States
41% will vote Clinton....no matter what, its like they are already programed
another 41% vote for Bush

the last 18% are the swing voters, the people with free thought and these are the people who decide an election

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Monday, November 9, 2015 7:39 PM

THGRRI


I watched the first few minutes of your latest video and it's this guy who is missing his marbles. The reason why the poorest are so poor is because what I post below. There is the real threat.



The 85 Richest People In The World Have As Much Wealth As The 3.5 Billion Poorest.

•Almost half of the world’s wealth is now owned by just one percent of the population.

•The wealth of the one percent richest people in the world amounts to $110 trillion. That’s 65 times the total wealth of the bottom half of the world’s population.

•The bottom half of the world’s population owns the same as the richest 85 people in the world.

•Seven out of ten people live in countries where economic inequality has increased in the last 30 years.

•The richest one percent increased their share of income in 24 out of 26 countries for which we have data between 1980 and 2012.


•In the US, the wealthiest one percent captured 95 percent of post-financial crisis growth since 2009, while the bottom 90 percent became poorer.

If you like your freedom you should read this next line twice. But you and I both know you are an agitator or anarchist.

Additionally, the report says that high levels of wealth concentration can harm democracy and reduce equal opportunity, as the wealthy begin to have an undue influence on government policy making.

Your fighting poor immigrants over table scraps and it's you not the American voter who is subject to being led around by the nose. I'll add this JANEZTOWN, those poor immigrants OWN YOU. I see how you are all consumed, posting about it in every thread. Therefore they have ruined your life. On behalf on them I say....YOU LOSE.

This link is to Forbes Magazine, not some propaganda crap.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2014/01/23/the-85-richest-people
-in-the-world-have-as-much-wealth-as-the-3-5-billion-poorest
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Monday, November 9, 2015 8:11 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"41% will vote Clinton....no matter what, its like they are already programed
another 41% vote for Bush

the last 18% are the swing voters, the people with free thought and these are the people who decide an election"

You're kidding - right?

Bush will almost certainly not be on the ticket.

And it's reasonable to be undecided now.

But weeks before the election? those voters aren't independent - they just haven't flipped the coin yet. At least, that's how it was in the last election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2012/10/09/who-are-the-
undecided-voters-and-what-are-the-heck-are-they-waiting-for
/
So, in the (in)famous words of Dennis Green, undecided voters are who we thought they were. They tend to be young, low-information voters who see themselves in the ideological middle -- caught between an economy they aren't happy with and an alternative to President Obama that they also aren't thrilled about.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Tuesday, November 10, 2015 3:27 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


It's nice to see THUGGR posting US propaganda. ALL those immigrants coming in ALL at the same time - and predominantly well-fed, well-dressed young men - are ALL just humble refugees ALL from Syria, seeking nothing more than shelter. And anyone who says any different - or merely proposes that enforcing an immigration policy might be in order - is a damn racist! And someone with NO concern for the poor! And no respecter of facts over sources! So says Jesus THUGGR with his love for blacks and 'who gives a shit' http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58208&p=5 love for dying Chinese peasants and his focus on 'Cites are wasted' http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60129&mid=1
004084#1004084
facts!.

Now I know where Merkel's response to the immigrants is coming from - which is the US. It was puzzling why she would commit political suicide. But it's evidently not voluntary.

I'm provisionally concluding that the US needs to keep Turkey on its 'side' at least nominally. That's why its been so silent about Turkey bombing the Kurds (and only the Kurds) in its 'stand against' ISIS. And also that the US strong-armed Germany into letting in all those immigrants who were released from Turkey. Merkel just needs to take one for the team.

BTW, I always did think her response to the US bugging her was peculiar. Sure she complained - for a week. But then she did nothing about it. With this latest self-destructive direction, what I wonder is - what does the US have on her?



http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60140&mid=1
004303#1004303

You are talking wildly about Muslims who are fleeing radical Islam

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60139&mid=1
004299#1004299

White Europe is dying and needs an influx of new blood. Granted I don’t like the religious overtones of many of the migrants because I think that is harmful. Still for Europe to stay strong economically they need migrants. Merkel knows this but is caught in a hard place.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60140&mid=1
004271#1004271

Or you could be an American Roman Catholic like Timothy McVeigh.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60138&mid=1
004270#1004270

Another bigoted rant by SIG. Congrats SIG, apparently your concern for others is limited to the white race. ... A lack of accepted assimilation for immigrants by Europeans is behind much of problems there.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60138&mid=1
004279#1004279

The reason why the poorest are so poor is because what I post below. There is the real threat.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60138&mid=1
004212#1004212

About $59 billion is spent on traditional social welfare programs. $92 billion is spent on corporate subsidies here.
... whites far outnumber blacks receiving welfare. No other group is even close.
Next it's infiltrate discussions held by others who may have concerns and propagate the conversation with garbage ...

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60138&mid=1
004201#1004201

controversial source

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=59817&mid=1
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Cites are wasted on you SIG. ... It comes from a United States General who was being very kind in his assessment.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Tuesday, November 10, 2015 5:57 PM

THGRRI


Wow, did you go on a tear 1kiki. Again posting crap and claiming I am posting propaganda. Suggesting I only care for blacks. Why are you KKK?

Your claim to be American yet you call the Washington Post and Forbes Magazine propaganda. I don't think so comrade troll.

Now back to the subject at hand which is the bigotry post by some here:



Quote:



SIG

Are you prepared to let Muslim men have four wives wherever it is that you live? To allow African immigrants to practice genital mutilation in your nation? Cockfighting and dog fighting? Bride-kidnapping? Vast swaths where people don't speak the national language, requiring translation services for everything from doctoring to schooling?


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Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:10 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Suggesting I only care for blacks.

I think you need to get your minders to explain my post to you. in. very. simple. terms.

Here it is. Another bigoted rant by SIG. Congrats SIG, apparently your concern for others is limited to the white race.

Also, they might explain to you that you, quoting your own post CLAIMING Sig's post is bigoted, isn't evidence of a bigoted post. And you look really stupid.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:12 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: Is ot working in Lebanon....as trends go in Michigan will it "continue" working in Dearborn?



I wish Frem were around to comment.

Multiculturalism is great... when it works. I think the world is too jammed up with hate and selfishiness for it to work well now. Certainly, it can never be forced to work.



Whelp, I found you Frem taking this guy on. Immigration is tricky and the worst of the worst come out to inflate the negative and push hate. In Europe many have been trying to run the Jews out before this mass migration started. It's the same people.


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Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:33 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


In Europe many have been trying to run the Jews out ...

You have no issue with Ukrainian Nazis. Are they a better brand of fascist?




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:55 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
In Europe many have been trying to run the Jews out ...

You have no issue with Ukrainian Nazis. Are they a better brand of fascist?

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Never said that comrade troll. This all started because the Ukraine wanted to change. I don't know if they can get there but Russia has no business doing what it is doing. The UN agrees with me and disagrees with you.

So, I guess your wrong.


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Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:58 PM

THGRRI



I watched the first few minutes of your latest video and it's this guy who is missing his marbles. The reason why the poorest are so poor is because what I post below. There is the real threat.



The 85 Richest People In The World Have As Much Wealth As The 3.5 Billion Poorest.

•Almost half of the world’s wealth is now owned by just one percent of the population.

•The wealth of the one percent richest people in the world amounts to $110 trillion. That’s 65 times the total wealth of the bottom half of the world’s population.

•The bottom half of the world’s population owns the same as the richest 85 people in the world.

•Seven out of ten people live in countries where economic inequality has increased in the last 30 years.

•The richest one percent increased their share of income in 24 out of 26 countries for which we have data between 1980 and 2012.


•In the US, the wealthiest one percent captured 95 percent of post-financial crisis growth since 2009, while the bottom 90 percent became poorer.

If you like your freedom you should read this next line twice. But you and I both know you are an agitator or anarchist.

Additionally, the report says that high levels of wealth concentration can harm democracy and reduce equal opportunity, as the wealthy begin to have an undue influence on government policy making.

Your fighting poor immigrants over table scraps and it's you not the American voter who is subject to being led around by the nose. I'll add this JANEZTOWN, those poor immigrants OWN YOU. I see how you are all consumed, posting about it in every thread. Therefore they have ruined your life. On behalf on them I say....YOU LOSE.

This link is to Forbes Magazine, not some propaganda crap.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2014/01/23/the-85-richest-people
-in-the-world-have-as-much-wealth-as-the-3-5-billion-poorest
/






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Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:12 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



THUGGR

Humanitarian. (snicker)
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58208&p=5
Who gives a shit?






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Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:31 PM

THGRRI


You gotta love it. I can always tell when 1kiki gets frustrated because she is, as usual, on the losing end of a discussion. She posts me saying who gives a shit in response to her changing the subject as she always does when again, she is losing a debate.

And once again I will repost what she is trying to distract from.



I watched the first few minutes of JAYNEZTOWN'S latest video and it's this guy who is missing his marbles. The reason why the poorest are so poor is because what I post below. There is the real threat.



The 85 Richest People In The World Have As Much Wealth As The 3.5 Billion Poorest.

•Almost half of the world’s wealth is now owned by just one percent of the population.

•The wealth of the one percent richest people in the world amounts to $110 trillion. That’s 65 times the total wealth of the bottom half of the world’s population.

•The bottom half of the world’s population owns the same as the richest 85 people in the world.

•Seven out of ten people live in countries where economic inequality has increased in the last 30 years.

•The richest one percent increased their share of income in 24 out of 26 countries for which we have data between 1980 and 2012.


•In the US, the wealthiest one percent captured 95 percent of post-financial crisis growth since 2009, while the bottom 90 percent became poorer.

If you like your freedom you should read this next line twice. But you and I both know you are an agitator or anarchist.

Additionally, the report says that high levels of wealth concentration can harm democracy and reduce equal opportunity, as the wealthy begin to have an undue influence on government policy making.

Your fighting poor immigrants over table scraps and it's you not the American voter who is subject to being led around by the nose. I'll add this JANEZTOWN, those poor immigrants OWN YOU. I see how you are all consumed, posting about it in every thread. Therefore they have ruined your life. On behalf on them I say....YOU LOSE.

This link is to Forbes Magazine, not some propaganda crap.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2014/01/23/the-85-richest-people
-in-the-world-have-as-much-wealth-as-the-3-5-billion-poorest/

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Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:36 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I'm just pointing out your already-expressed concerns for people on the starvation end of unequal distribution.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58208&p=5
kiki - And meanwhile, to understand the role of capitalism in improving life FOR THE MASSES you'll note here that the greatest gains in life expectancy in China - for women from 45 to 63, and for men from 44 to 64 - came between the years 1950 and 1972.
THUGGR - Your (sic) a fucking moron: who gives a shit?


Apparently, the crime of those Chinese was that they lived longer lives under Mao with more equal distribution of resources, than under the US-backed National Government with its fabulously wealthy and - literally - starving masses.

Hey, but what's mass starvation when you have an ideology to flog?

Or, in your eloquent concern for the lives of the Chinese people - Who gives a shit? Right, THUGGR?




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Tuesday, November 10, 2015 9:10 PM

THGRRI


As usual I said none of what you imply and if you follow the link you see I don't reference anybody or anything when I say that. It is as I have said, me jumping on you for distracting from the point.

The fact that you suggest I meant all the shit you have posted regarding that, is just more evidence of you posting subjectively and dishonstly. You know off the point and lying. The reason I said who gives a shit in the first place.

The fact that you go there all the time when you are looking stupid again shows you are at a point of being spiteful and deflecting, once again changing the subject.


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Tuesday, November 10, 2015 9:24 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


When I pointed out that people's lifespan went up during the cultural revolution, you said - let's see, what was it ... 'who gives a shit?' Apparently you at least don't give a shit when the VAST majority of people are doing SO well the AVERAGE lifespan goes up a phenomenal 50%.

So, the extent of your humanitarian concern is measured by this: you don't give a shit.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58208&p=5
Who gives a shit?





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Tuesday, November 10, 2015 9:52 PM

THGRRI




As usual I said none of what you imply and if you follow the link you see I don't reference anybody or anything when I say that. It is as I have said, me jumping on you for distracting from the point.

The fact that you suggest I meant all the shit you have posted regarding that, is just more evidence of you posting subjectively and dishonstly. You know off the point and lying. The reason I said who gives a shit in the first place.

The fact that you go there all the time when you are looking stupid again shows you are at a point of being spiteful and deflecting, once again changing the subject.





It's over troll, you're finnished

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Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:09 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58208&p=5
kiki - And meanwhile, to understand the role of capitalism in improving life FOR THE MASSES you'll note here that the greatest gains in life expectancy in China - for women from 45 to 63, and for men from 44 to 64 - came between the years 1950 and 1972.
THUGGR - Your (sic) a fucking moron: who gives a shit?




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Saturday, November 14, 2015 2:26 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


conspiracys?


'footage when spectators of the Parisian concert hall run away. pretty hard to see guys.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=86c_1447486084

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Saturday, November 14, 2015 10:12 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
conspiracys?

'footage when spectators of the Parisian concert hall run away. pretty hard to see guys.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=86c_1447486084



Hey winer, if you dislike all the refugees coming to your country and trying to take it over. Get off your ass and go help the Kurds fight in Syria so they can go home.

NO balls, then how bout you stop crying like a baby about it.

And take 1kiki and SIG with you. Lord knows they hate it here. Holy shit, wine, wine, wine is all you three ever do.


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Saturday, November 14, 2015 10:56 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


" Immigrants" telling the local , native European women to " cover up " and such should be a dead giveaway that radicals have invaded your neighborhood.

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Sunday, November 15, 2015 7:01 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
" Immigrants" telling the local , native European women to " cover up " and such should be a dead giveaway that radicals have invaded your neighborhood.



European Manhunt


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Sunday, November 15, 2015 7:13 PM

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Monday, November 16, 2015 11:55 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisChrist:


"No sane person believes the press..."




The mainstream media is generally propaganda, Russia is full of propaganda, China is full of propaganda and so is Western media. However in the West we would like to believe we have a free and open press at the same time while the BBC elites protected pedophiles like Savile and politicans and ex-Minsters fixed it for Jimmy Savile to receive a top royal, the Western media promoted the propaganda lie how Iraq had WMDs
How can you find the truth of wars, the truth of corruption and crimes, the truth of 'Islam' in a political media bought and sold like a flithy old prostitute many times over, a government and media bought and sold to small handful of elites like these Soros, Lockheed, Saudi Royals, Qatar, BP, Nestle, DuPonts, Goldman Sachs, Rockerfellers....how can you find the truth about Mohammed toons for example when Qatar and Dubai shove dollars into the mouth of a hag like Christiane Amanpour, they put a coin into her back like you would a slot machine and she says her mouth piece calling what are these Charlie Hebdo jihadist barbarians nothing but mere 'activists' and with so many islamo-apologists in Western media, this was inevitable. First the terrorists became extremists and then militants, next they were just gunmen and finally 'activists'....thankfully a few called this islamo b^tch and other reporters out on this anchor nonsense but sadly the critics only came from the loony Christian far-right. BTW this is not an attack on the left, its not an attack on CNN or MSNBC or any of the leftist news sources because the left and right are one and the same....they are two cheeks of the same face, the red and blue stage show is all part of the one production company to make you believe in a choice and the Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal he's the guy who owns a good chunk of Foxnews

The thing is not everyone reads from these pre made scripts, some people veer away from the brainwashed zombie pages they are supposed to read, some people speak their own minds....that's what I like about Trump, I don't agree with many things he does, some of the things he has said I would be against but I like the guy and he speaks his mind and tries to look for truths, that's what I like about people like him, they are outside the zombie narrative and speak for themselves. Some people will try to do right and will try to be moral and find truth.
and with skype and email and online videos and phone its becoming easier and easier to get to the facts, to find the real truth
What is the truth about islam?
I find the best speakers are those who are ex-muslims, the Arab Atheists, the Apostates.....here you begin to hear the truth


Once in a while you find a gem of truth, hearing something by an Arab Atheist or reading an article from a Muslim Apostate, chatting to someone who didn't always vote red or didn't always vote the blue team and then you stat to see people who think for themselves and are not brainwashed by the politically correct religosity delusion

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Tuesday, November 17, 2015 12:06 PM

JAYNEZTOWN




Leaving Molenbeek. They don't call it a "no go area" for nothing. Being followed and harassed. No cops anywhere.
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/666654198851870720


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