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The high toll of Obama's low-cost wars

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UPDATED: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:42
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Friday, June 10, 2016 10:34 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


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On small video screens inside their cockpits, the U.S. pilots spotted their target, an Islamic State checkpoint just south of the Iraqi city of Mosul.

In grainy black and white, they could see the enemy manning the barricades and a guard shack. As they prepared to launch their attack, the pilots noticed a potential complication: Two cars approached the checkpoint and stopped. The drivers appeared to be talking with Islamic State fighters.

Other cars moved through the checkpoint, but these two vehicles remained on the side of the road. Five minutes passed. Then 10. Nearly 40 minutes had gone by and the two vehicles still had not moved.

Running low on fuel and time, the pilots concluded that the people in the cars were allied with the militants and asked for permission to strike. After a brief discussion with their headquarters in Qatar, they got their reply: “You’re cleared to execute.”

This was one version of what war had become in the last years of the Obama administration: The pilots made two strafing runs over the checkpoint, their machine guns cutting through the two cars. Then they unleashed a 500-pound satellite-guided bomb that engulfed the area in dust, fire and deadly shrapnel.

As they returned to their base, the pilots offered an in-flight assessment of their mission: guard shack flattened, two vehicles destroyed and four enemy fighters dead. “There are no apparent civilian or other collateral concerns,” their report concluded.

The first sign that they had made a horrible mistake came in the form of an email, sent two weeks after the March 2015 airstrike, to an Iraqi citizen working at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad.

“I am Raja’a Zidan al-Ekabee .?.?. ” the email began.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-desperate-womans-email-from-
iraq-reveals-the-high-toll-of-obamas-low-cost-wars/2016/06/09/3e572976-2725-11e6-b989-4e5479715b54_story.html?postshare=5081465554491761&tid=ss_tw-bottom



Look more closely at the drone campaigns in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan, and you see that they are doing more damage to innocent civilians than we would like to think, and what the official stats say.

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Friday, June 10, 2016 10:46 AM

REAVERFAN


Americans love war, and we love drones. It will never stop.

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Friday, June 10, 2016 11:42 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Americans love war, and we love drones. It will never stop.

You are so very wrong about the "love" and not wrong at all about the "never stop". So long as war never stops, the money for more ammo and launch vehicles will never stop. And America is all about money, in my opinion. When the Pentagon has a very expensive and enormous stockpile of weapons and the actual people pulling the trigger aren't particularly bright or empathetic, this is what happens. You're looking at failure to win wars and the resulting frustrations and weariness of the Americans choosing targets with the whole war process.

If you want details (and who does not? Everybody but me!) The Intercept has obtained a cache of secret documents detailing the inner workings of the U.S. military’s assassination program in Afghanistan, Yemen, and Somalia. The documents, provided by a whistleblower, offer an unprecedented glimpse into Obama’s drone wars.
https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/

It takes a lot of effort by a lot of important people to piss away hundreds of billions of dollars every year on defense and have nothing but money to show for it. And if the important people don't do their job, what will the weapon and ammo factories and all their employees do with their lives? Probably nothing.

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