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Saturday, January 25, 2020 11:08 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I know you feel extremely guilty about all of that ill-gained money you have... Especially the millions of tax breaks that you've gotten from Trump since he's been in office.

I wanted to start this thread because any time I go to the home page of Firefly I'm met with this text on the left hand side:

Quote:

SUPPORT FFF.NET
HELP KEEP FFF.NET FLYING
MONTHLY GOAL: 150
CURRENT AT: 27

https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=CvvG_sG865bNEljYyBgisXMptsMLf-oGk
KozRWHB6wBlNF3jMekSdmSJcdzrvvrxqTwh9G&country.x=US&locale.x=US



Clearly, I can't afford to contribute at this particular time of my life, but since money isn't a concern in your world I figured it's time you step up to the plate and take some of that burden off of Haken's hands here.

Now, truth be told, I can't see any reason why this site needs a full $150 per month to keep flying, but I've never been the administrator of a website before and I don't know exactly how much effort he needs to put into this aside from the monthly upkeep costs that he shells out month after month for a site he never even uses anymore. I don't think it's an unreasonable goal considering what he does for us.

We're lucky to have a guy like that running the site and maintaining it for the few of us who have stayed as long as we have... like the really drunk bar patrons that still linger around 30 minutes after last call and need to be persuaded by the bouncers to finally leave.

$123 per month is nothing for a guy with multi-million dollar tax breaks per year. You could probably fund this site for the rest of your life with just one week of those tax breaks.

Whaddya say?

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Saturday, January 25, 2020 2:15 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


The total has been stuck at $27 for three years. Maybe nobody pays. Take a look:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170131080745/http://fireflyfans.net/main
.aspx?i=0


https://web.archive.org/web/20170324035559/http://fireflyfans.net/main
.aspx?i=0


I'm curious to know how much neglect it takes to kill a Firefly. I will never know if I start donating, will I? I think Firefly is pretty tough. Fireflyfans.net can probably go many more years before it rusts apart and never flies again.

Do you remember how the Out of Gas episode ended? If fireflyfans.net does breakdown, maybe Mal will come along to get it flying again. I would like to see if that happens and therefore I won't interfere with Nature by giving money.

SALESMAN (cont'd) Son? Hey, son?

The Salesman notices that Mal doesn't seem to be paying a bit of attention.

SALESMAN (cont'd) You hear a word I been sayin'?

He hasn't, really. Because he's looking across the lot at something else...

MAL'S POV

Across the lot sits Serenity, dirty, a bit broken down... and silently speaking to Mal. Off that —

BLACK OUT.

THE END

More at www.myths.com/pub/tv/firefly/script-out-of-gas.html
or Tim Minear's scan of his own script at
https://web.archive.org/web/20150319012226/http://www.timminear.net/ff
_pdfs/Firefly_1AGE07_-_OutOfGas.pdf


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, January 25, 2020 2:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, January 25, 2020 3:05 PM

WISHIMAY

THIS machine kills fascists- Woody Guthrie


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Whaddya say?




I say you should go make your own millions before you think you have the right to go spending someone else's money.

Oh, yeah, that's never gonna happen.

You have nothing to tie you down but you. And by now you're practically a self-bondage expert...

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Saturday, January 25, 2020 3:39 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LO ....Wait for it.... L

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Remember all the Firefly podcasts? Their dead, dried up corpses still litter the internet: http://fireflyfans.net/firecasts.aspx

What will it take to kill fireflyfans.net? Nobody will know unless we starve it for resources to see if it can die. Let's do it! Maybe it is true that "You can't stop the signal." Maybe fireflyfans.net and Firefly are Immortal. When Earth That Was no longer has human life, maybe fireflyfans.net will keep on and on, waiting to welcome humans returning from the 'Verse to the Solar System.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, January 25, 2020 4:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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lol...

I hope Haken reads this thread and has a good sense of humor.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, January 25, 2020 5:46 PM

WISHIMAY

THIS machine kills fascists- Woody Guthrie


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I hope Haken reads this thread and has a good sense of humor.




Haken hasn't been around much since you started posting, coincidence??



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Saturday, January 25, 2020 6:18 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIX: I hope Haken reads this thread and has a good sense of humor.

WISHY: Haken hasn't been around much since you started posting, coincidence?



Maybe SIX is Haken!

Maybe Haken is Putin!

I mean, jeez, just think of the possibilities....!!!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Saturday, January 25, 2020 6:26 PM

WISHIMAY

THIS machine kills fascists- Woody Guthrie


Quote:

[Originally posted by SIGNYM:


Maybe SIX is Haken!

Maybe Haken is Putin!




Do they make you guys take a course in gaslighting? I mean, not everyone has it in them to lie like a dirty pig and manipulate like a Monster-IN-Law would.

DO you tell yourself "FOR THE CAUSE!!" every day when you log in??

DO you think "This is what I really wanted to do with my adult time. I wanted to turn the whole world into lying corrupt backstabbers like my hero Putin!"

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Saturday, January 25, 2020 8:43 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


OMFG TWITCHY, IT WAS A JOKE!!!!



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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Saturday, January 25, 2020 8:48 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Do they make you guys take a course in gaslighting? I mean, not everyone has it in them to lie like a dirty pig and manipulate like a Monster-IN-Law would.

DO you tell yourself "FOR THE CAUSE!!" every day when you log in??

DO you think "This is what I really wanted to do with my adult time. I wanted to turn the whole world into lying corrupt backstabbers like my hero Putin!"



Hey, WISHY, how about that conversation that Signy and I never had? Yanno, the one only you saw?

Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!

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Saturday, January 25, 2020 9:27 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Detective Nilbog cracked the case.

Yes. I am Jack. I am Haken. I am Putin.

Might as well come clean now about everything. I'm also Reaverfan. I am Donald Trump. I am Nancy Pelosi. I am George Soros.

And Justin Trudeau. My apologies to all offended for the blackface, BTW.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, January 26, 2020 11:16 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Fox president explains why Firefly had to be canceled.

"If I had to do it over again, I might have reconsidered it but I'm not sure it would have changed anything. It was a numbers thing. It was a wonderful show and I loved it and I loved working with Joss on it but that was a big show, a very expensive show and it wasn't delivering the numbers."

www.syfy.com/syfywire/former_fox_president_explains_why_firefly_had_to
_be_canceled


A lot of comments on my earlier post and on Whedonesque claim that Serenity under-performed because of bad marketing.

I have to disagree. $25M box office means the film got out there. There were enough people who saw it for it to have great word of mouth, had they felt like telling their friends. Much as I am a huge fan of Joss, and the Jossverse, and Firefly, the movie did not work that well for the mainstream audience. Or it would have been a sleeper hit.

You can say (and some do), "Anecdotally, non-Browncoats liked the movie." But either they did not like it enough to recommend it to other Firefly non-fans; or when they told you they liked it, they were just being nice.

Great marketing gets you a great opening weekend. It cannot make a flop into a hit. (Film marketers like to point to a great opening weekend, followed by a severe drop-off, as evidence that they successfully sold a piece of crap. Any fool can market a good movie.)

Whether Serenity is a good movie or not is a matter of taste; probably it has a lot to do with your tolerance of, or love for, space opera. It's also a matter of perspective. Blade Runner flopped but has become a classic, casting a spell on two decades worth of dystopian futures. If Serenity winds up influencing science fiction movies to come, then we can say that it was a great movie even if it didn't blow the roof off the box office. However, if you believe that it "ought to have been" a popular movie, and failed only because the studio didn't back Joss, then you are misunderstanding the relationship between the filmmaker and the audience. Writers (and their fans) are not entitled to say "They ought to have liked it." Or, if they do, it's just not useful. It's like a comedian who says, "Well, I was just over their heads." If they don't laugh, it's not funny.

https://complicationsensue.blogspot.com/2006/07/second-guessing-contin
ued.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, January 26, 2020 11:21 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Q. Why do you think SERENITY failed at the box office?

I'm going to say: because it was episodic. There were something like four self-contained episodes in the story. Each resolved almost completely, leaving just enough plot to ignite the next episode. So the movie didn't feel like a coherent story. It felt like a bunch of television episodes rammed together.

Fun, inventive television episodes, of course. Brilliantly written and convincingly acted. But episodes. A movie can't be a four-episode arc, it has to be a single story.

https://complicationsensue.blogspot.com/2006/07/second-guessing.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, January 26, 2020 12:34 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIX: Yes. I am Jack. I am Haken. I am Putin.

Might as well come clean now about everything. I'm also Reaverfan. I am Donald Trump. I am Nancy Pelosi. I am George Soros.

And Justin Trudeau. My apologies to all offended for the blackface, BTW.



No, no SIX!

I am Spartacus!

Oh wait, wrong movie. *slinks away ...*



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Sunday, January 26, 2020 12:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Fox president explains why Firefly had to be canceled.

"If I had to do it over again, I might have reconsidered it but I'm not sure it would have changed anything. It was a numbers thing. It was a wonderful show and I loved it and I loved working with Joss on it but that was a big show, a very expensive show and it wasn't delivering the numbers."

www.syfy.com/syfywire/former_fox_president_explains_why_firefly_had_to
_be_canceled


A lot of comments on my earlier post and on Whedonesque claim that Serenity under-performed because of bad marketing.

I have to disagree. $25M box office means the film got out there. There were enough people who saw it for it to have great word of mouth, had they felt like telling their friends. Much as I am a huge fan of Joss, and the Jossverse, and Firefly, the movie did not work that well for the mainstream audience. Or it would have been a sleeper hit.

You can say (and some do), "Anecdotally, non-Browncoats liked the movie." But either they did not like it enough to recommend it to other Firefly non-fans; or when they told you they liked it, they were just being nice.

Great marketing gets you a great opening weekend. It cannot make a flop into a hit. (Film marketers like to point to a great opening weekend, followed by a severe drop-off, as evidence that they successfully sold a piece of crap. Any fool can market a good movie.)

Whether Serenity is a good movie or not is a matter of taste; probably it has a lot to do with your tolerance of, or love for, space opera. It's also a matter of perspective. Blade Runner flopped but has become a classic, casting a spell on two decades worth of dystopian futures. If Serenity winds up influencing science fiction movies to come, then we can say that it was a great movie even if it didn't blow the roof off the box office. However, if you believe that it "ought to have been" a popular movie, and failed only because the studio didn't back Joss, then you are misunderstanding the relationship between the filmmaker and the audience. Writers (and their fans) are not entitled to say "They ought to have liked it." Or, if they do, it's just not useful. It's like a comedian who says, "Well, I was just over their heads." If they don't laugh, it's not funny.

https://complicationsensue.blogspot.com/2006/07/second-guessing-contin
ued.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




I'm talking about a site that you use every day. A fan site that is not at all affiliated with FOX or anybody involved in the production of Firefly or Serenity.

Haken provides this service to everybody, virtually for free. Let's just say, there's not much that I would do for $27 per month, and the site upkeep alone probably costs him money out of his own pocket after the pittance coming in via donations. He has no obligation to anybody to continue to keep this site going.


You've made hundreds of millions of dollars in the last few years in Trump Tax Breaks alone. At least you've said so no less than 100 times already.

Throw some money Haken's way for his trouble here. Otherwise, STFU about your lies.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, January 26, 2020 11:33 PM

WISHIMAY

THIS machine kills fascists- Woody Guthrie


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Haken provides this service to everybody, virtually for free. Let's just say, there's not much that I would do for $27 per month, and the site upkeep alone probably costs him money out of his own pocket after the pittance coming in via donations. He has no obligation to anybody to continue to keep this site going.





I believe Haken has other websites he manages, so I doubt it costs much to keep this one as well. Also, when he started accepting donations he received "quite a bit". He was thinking about paying people for content they posted here, but the few people who responded told him to keep it all and keep it running. I was one of those people.

All of that is immaterial to the fact that you are acting like a Fascist.

IT'S HIS MONEY TO DO WITH WHAT HE LIKES AND NOT ONE CENT OF IT IS YOUR GODDAMN BUSINESS.

Take your jealousy and pathetic self and GET BENT

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Sunday, January 26, 2020 11:38 PM

WISHIMAY

THIS machine kills fascists- Woody Guthrie


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


I am Spartacus!




Wonders if they made Spartacus dubbed in Russian?? I mean '60 was right in the middle of the Cold War and all.


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Monday, January 27, 2020 12:52 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




Hey, WISHY, how about that conversation that Signy and I never had? Yanno, the one only you saw?

Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!

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Monday, January 27, 2020 7:50 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I'm talking about a site that you use every day. A fan site that is not at all affiliated with FOX or anybody involved in the production of Firefly or Serenity.

Haken provides this service to everybody, virtually for free. Let's just say, there's not much that I would do for $27 per month, and the site upkeep alone probably costs him money out of his own pocket after the pittance coming in via donations. He has no obligation to anybody to continue to keep this site going.


You've made hundreds of millions of dollars in the last few years in Trump Tax Breaks alone. At least you've said so no less than 100 times already.

Throw some money Haken's way for his trouble here. Otherwise, STFU about your lies.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I have 126 emailed receipts from Pay Pal that I did contribute to haken@fireflyfans.net It was easy to get an accurate number because I label my gmail as it comes in label:firefly label:buy service@paypal.com

6ix, I understand that you want a free ride. You don't want to pay your share for what you use, which makes you the same as other Trump lovers.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, January 27, 2020 9:31 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Don't turn this on me, bud.

I'm getting most of my teeth pulled out today, on my dime, and I'm going to be pulling one of them out myself just to save less than Haken's monthly goal.


You're always talking about all of those hundreds of millions of ill-gotten gains off of Trumps extra tax returns. I'm merely suggesting that you have a place here that you use every day that you could spend a inconsequential amount of the interest you gain on those tax returns.


Either you are rich, or you're not. If that funding goal doesn't get met this month, that answer is confirmed.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, January 27, 2020 9:33 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Haken provides this service to everybody, virtually for free. Let's just say, there's not much that I would do for $27 per month, and the site upkeep alone probably costs him money out of his own pocket after the pittance coming in via donations. He has no obligation to anybody to continue to keep this site going.





I believe Haken has other websites he manages, so I doubt it costs much to keep this one as well. Also, when he started accepting donations he received "quite a bit". He was thinking about paying people for content they posted here, but the few people who responded told him to keep it all and keep it running. I was one of those people.

All of that is immaterial to the fact that you are acting like a Fascist.

IT'S HIS MONEY TO DO WITH WHAT HE LIKES AND NOT ONE CENT OF IT IS YOUR GODDAMN BUSINESS.

Take your jealousy and pathetic self and GET BENT





LOL

Imagine a Democrat telling you not to tell somebody how to spend their money.

It must be opposite day.


Oh... wait. That's just the usual hypocrisy around here.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, January 27, 2020 10:27 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Either you are rich, or you're not. If that funding goal doesn't get met this month, that answer is confirmed.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

That is not how you confirm it because the confirmation mechanism is broken. You do not understand that the amount Haken raises never moves. Every month it is stuck on $27.00, no matter what I do or don't do. Take a look at what it was 3 years ago:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170131080745/http://fireflyfans.net/main
.aspx?i=0


https://web.archive.org/web/20170324035559/http://fireflyfans.net/main
.aspx?i=0


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, January 27, 2020 10:34 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Maybe he'll fix the tracker if you get him to his funding goals?

Maybe it's not broken and the same people who gave a monthly donation 3 years ago are still giving it today?


Data: Inconclusive

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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