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20 retired French generals and many other military personnel call for military rule over feared Islamic insurrection and civil war

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Sunday, May 2, 2021 11:52 AM

SIGNYM

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Sunday, May 2, 2021 11:57 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nope.

I still don't miss not hearing about that for 4 years.

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Sunday, May 2, 2021 11:59 AM

SIGNYM

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Google translation of the original Valeurs article and published letter, below

Quote:

"For a return of the honor of our rulers": 20 generals call on Macron to defend patriotism

At the initiative of Jean-Pierre Fabre-Bernadac, career officer and manager of the Place Armes site , around twenty generals, a hundred senior officers and more than a thousand other soldiers signed an appeal for a return honor and duty within the political class.

Current Values disseminates, with their authorization, the letter imbued with conviction and commitment from these men attached to their country.
By Jean-Pierre Fabre-Bernadac
Posted on April 21, 2021 at 7:00 a.m. Updated on April 22, 2021 at 12:25 p.m.
© ? NICOLAS MESSYASZ / SIPA

Mr President,
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Government,
Ladies and Gentlemen, Members of Parliament,

The hour is serious, France is in danger, several mortal dangers threaten it. We who, even in retirement, remain soldiers of France, cannot, in the current circumstances, remain indifferent to the fate of our beautiful country.

Our tricolor flags are not just a piece of cloth, they symbolize the tradition, through the ages, of those who, whatever their skin color or their faith, served France and gave their lives for it. On these flags, we find in gold letters the words “Honor and Fatherland”. However, our honor today lies in the denunciation of the disintegration which strikes our homeland.

- Discrimination which, through a certain anti-racism, is displayed with a single goal: to create on our soil a malaise, even hatred between the communities. Today some speak of racialism, indigenism and decolonial theories, but through these terms it is racial war that these hateful and fanatic supporters want. They despise our country, its traditions, its culture, and want to see it dissolve by taking away its past and its history. Thus they attack, through statues, ancient military and civilian glories by analyzing words that are centuries old.

- Discrimination which, with Islamism and the suburban hordes, leads to the detachment of multiple plots of the nation to transform them into territories subject to dogmas contrary to our constitution. However, each French, whatever his belief or his non-belief, is everywhere at home in France; there cannot and must not exist any city, any district where the laws of the Republic do not apply.

- Discrimination, because hatred takes precedence over brotherhood during demonstrations where the power uses the police as auxiliary agents and scapegoats in the face of French people in yellow vests expressing their despair. This while infiltrated and hooded individuals ransack businesses and threaten these same police forces. However, the latter only apply the directives, sometimes contradictory, given by you, the rulers.

Perils are mounting, violence is increasing day by day. Who would have predicted ten years ago that a professor would one day be beheaded when he left college? However, we, servants of the Nation, who have always been ready to put our skin at the end of our engagement - as our military state demanded, cannot be passive spectators before such actions.

Also, those who lead our country must imperatively find the courage necessary to eradicate these dangers. To do this, it is often sufficient to apply existing laws without weakness. Do not forget that, like us, a large majority of our fellow citizens are overwhelmed by your dabbling and guilty silences.

As Cardinal Mercier, Primate of Belgium, said: “When prudence is everywhere, courage is nowhere. " So, ladies and gentlemen, enough stalling, the situation is serious, work is enormous; do not waste time and know that we are ready to support policies which will take into consideration the safeguard of the nation.

On the other hand, if nothing is done, laxity will continue to spread inexorably in society, ultimately causing an explosion and the intervention of our active comrades in a perilous mission of protecting our civilizational values ??and safeguarding our compatriots on the national territory.

As we can see, it is no longer time to procrastinate, otherwise, tomorrow the civil war will put an end to this growing chaos, and the deaths, for which you will bear the responsibility, will number in the thousands.

Les généraux signataires :

Général de Corps d’Armée (ER) Christian PIQUEMAL (Légion Étrangère), général de Corps d’Armée (2S) Gilles BARRIE (Infanterie), général de Division (2S) François GAUBERT ancien Gouverneur militaire de Lille, général de Division (2S) Emmanuel de RICHOUFFTZ (Infanterie), général de Division (2S) Michel JOSLIN DE NORAY (Troupes de Marine), général de Brigade (2S) André COUSTOU (Infanterie), général de Brigade (2S) Philippe DESROUSSEAUX de MEDRANO (Train), général de Brigade Aérienne (2S) Antoine MARTINEZ (Armée de l’air), général de Brigade Aérienne (2S) Daniel GROSMAIRE (Armée de l’air), général de Brigade (2S) Robert JEANNEROD (Cavalerie), général de Brigade (2S) Pierre Dominique AIGUEPERSE (Infanterie), général de Brigade (2S) Roland DUBOIS (Transmissions), général de Brigade (2S) Dominique DELAWARDE (Infanterie), général de Brigade (2S) Jean Claude GROLIER (Artillerie), général de Brigade (2S) Norbert de CACQUERAY (Direction Générale de l’Armement), général de Brigade (2S) Roger PRIGENT (ALAT), général de Brigade (2S) Alfred LEBRETON (CAT), médecin Général (2S) Guy DURAND (Service de Santé des Armées), contre-amiral (2S) Gérard BALASTRE (Marine Nationale).




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Sunday, May 2, 2021 12:02 PM

SIGNYM

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MACRON'S RESPONSE

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Macron Government Ignores Warning, Announces 20 French Generals Who Warned of “Civil War” Over Leftist and Islamist Radicalization Will Be Punished
By Jim Hoft

Last Wednesday 20 French generals warned the Macron government of an impending “Civil War” due to leftist and islamist radicalization.

20 French generals, around a hundred senior officers and more than a thousand other soldiers signed an appeal for a return honor and duty within the political class.

A copy of their letter was published by Valeurs. [see above]

But rather than heeding their warning, President Macron announced the generals and soldiers will be punished.

The Daily Mail reported:

Emmanuel Macron has threatened to punish generals who signed an open letter warning that the country is heading for ‘civil war’ because of radical Islam.

Twenty retired generals, as well as several serving soldiers, signed the letter which warned that failure to act against the ‘suburban hordes’ – a reference to the predominantly immigrant population of the housing estates which surround French cities – will lead to deaths ‘in the thousands.’

The government strongly condemned the letter, which was published on the 60th anniversary of a failed coup d’etat by generals opposed to France granting independence to Algeria.

‘These are unacceptable actions,’ Defence Minister Florence Parly said Monday, adding that serving military members had flouted a law requiring them to remain politically neutral.

‘There will be consequences, naturally,’ Parly said, adding that she had instructed the army chief of staff to discipline them.

To speak out against the dangers of Islamic radicalism is forbidden by French elites.

Around 1,500 soldiers and retired generals signed the letter.
The elites called it a coup attempt.



https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/macron-government-ignores-war
ning-announces-20-french-generals-warned-civil-war-leftist-islamist-radicalization-will-punished
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Sunday, May 2, 2021 12:06 PM

SIGNYM

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Sorry for the post-editing, SIX. The story is a little old, so the first article I grabbed was the latest, but I didn't want to hash the topic so decided to post them in temporal order.

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Sunday, May 2, 2021 12:15 PM

SIGNYM

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THIS WAS THE STORY THAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION

Quote:

Vive la Révolution: Majority of French Agree France Is Heading Towards ‘Civil War’ poll finds

A new poll has found that a majority of French people are prepared for an imminent “civil war” in France caused by failed multiculturalism and far-left attacks on French identity.

Over 1,000 service-members signed a letter, including 20 retired generals, warning President Emmanuel Macron of “several deadly dangers” threatening France, including “Islamism and the hordes of the banlieue.”

The signatories also blame the far-left “anti-racism” movement for trying to stir up a manufactured “racial war” by attacking symbols of French cultural cohesion and identity, including statues.

The letter blames “fanatic partisans” for seeking to create divisions within communities that have created a vacuum for Islamists to assert their control.

“The hour is grave, France is in peril,” states the letter, which was published on 21 April – the 60th anniversary of a failed coup d’état.

The military servicemembers warn that the treatment of the “gilets jaunes” or yellow vest protesters exemplifies how the government has used the police “as proxy agents and scapegoats” for brutal oppression.

“It is no longer the time to procrastinate, otherwise tomorrow civil war will put an end to this growing chaos and deaths – for which you will be responsible – with numbers in the thousands,” the letter concludes.

Despite the letter being condemned by the government and the media, a new poll has found that a majority of the French people agree with its substance.

A survey by Harris Interactive found that 58% of respondents “support the words of the soldiers,” reports Valeurs.

A clear majority – 84% – said violence was increasing in society and 73% thought the country was disintegrating. Almost three quarters think the “anti-racism” movement is having the opposite impact and making race relations worse.


Almost half (49%) also think that the military should be sent in to occupy problem areas, “which would act on its own to restore order.”

Only one in three respondents said the signatories should be punished, despite the minister in charge of the armed forces, Florence Parly, indicating that active duty members would face sanction.

“Two immutable principles guide the action of members of the military with regard to politics: neutrality and loyalty,” tweeted Parly.



https://newspunch.com/vive-la-revolution-majority-of-french-agree-fran
ce-is-heading-towards-civil-war
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Sunday, May 2, 2021 12:22 PM

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The reason why it caught my attention is because I posted a motnh or so ago that the name of the DNC's game is "RACE WAR". Also war between the ages, sexes, relgions and genders. The ONE thing they hope nobdoy notices???

CLASS

MACRON IS A TRANSNATIONALIST. HE WANTS TO DESTROY FRANCE AS A NATION.
ALL TRANSNATIONALISTS, EVEN BIDEN*, WANT TO DESTROY THEIR HOME NATION.

And the best way to do that is to use differences of skin color, age, sex, etc to drive big, deep highly emotional wedges between people using identitarian politics so they no longer see a common identity.

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Sunday, May 2, 2021 1:24 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Generals warn military coup may be necessary to stop the spread of Islamism, French generals cause backlash with 'civil war' warning talk about the rise of jihadis and the threat of a civil war

https://www.euronews.com/2021/04/29/french-officials-condemn-military-
generals-who-say-country-is-in-peril


French officials condemn military generals who say country is 'in peril'

Survey Shows Majority in France Support Military Move??

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Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:22 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Sorry for the post-editing, SIX. The story is a little old, so the first article I grabbed was the latest, but I didn't want to hash the topic so decided to post them in temporal order.

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lol

I didn't know what you meant because I had refreshed the page to see what was updated.

Now it looks like I'm saying that nobody said "see below" while Trump was in office.



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Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:58 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Sometimes I wonder how much of this is a generational thing.

Every generation seems to think that the generation behind is doing things wrong, letting things fall apart.

And then how much of the derailment of the newest generation is a result of the failures of the prior generation.


All of the Democrats and other Liberals were apoplectic that some folk wanted to end Slavery, despite all advanced civilizations in the world doing it (embracing slavery). Nice that the Republicans prevailed in ending Slavery in the physical sense, although Democrats continue to keep many mentally enslaved.

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Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:20 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I think GenX largely sidestepped that issue.

This is pretty much between the Boomers and the Millennials at this point.

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Friday, May 21, 2021 3:29 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Anger in France after 'civil war' warning over Macron's 'concessions' to Islamism

https://japantoday.com/category/world/anger-in-france-over-%27civil-wa
r%27-warning

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Sunday, December 5, 2021 8:26 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Pecresse wins French conservative ticket for presidential election
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/pecresse-wins-french-conservative-ticket-143
027986.html

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Sunday, December 26, 2021 6:28 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Article from the Hindu Street Shitter Express

Eric Zemmour’s dangerous promise of a ‘French France’
https://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/eric-zemmours-danger
ous-promise-of-a-french-france-7671445
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Poland won’t stop at opposing abortion – now it wants to track pregnancies digitally
https://www.newstatesman.com/world/2021/12/poland-wont-stop-at-opposin
g-abortion-now-it-wants-to-track-pregnancies-digitally


US ‘closer to civil war’ than most would like to believe, new book says
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/20/us-closer-to-civil-war
-new-book-barbara-walter-trump-capitol-attack


US Former Army Generals and C.I Gay consultant Warn There May Be Another Insurrection or Civil War in 2024
https://countercurrents.org/2021/12/possibility-of-civil-war-in-u-s-wa
rn-three-retired-generals-and-cia-consultant
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Sunday, March 6, 2022 5:18 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Seems Macron suddenly decided to re-run the last second

Macron officially declares his candidacy in 2022 French presidential election
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/macron-officially-declares-candidacy-2022-19
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Sunday, March 6, 2022 5:43 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


That sounds like a big waste of money.

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Thursday, April 14, 2022 11:42 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


'Macron's far-right rival, Le Pen, reaches all-time high in presidential second-round'

https://news.yahoo.com/macrons-far-rival-le-pen-173350213.html

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