Are We Too Bearish on Trump? by 6ixStringJack

REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

Are We Too Bearish on Trump?

POSTED BY: 6IXSTRINGJACK
UPDATED: Sunday, June 2, 2024 23:03
SHORT URL:
VIEWED: 177
PAGE 1 of 1

Friday, May 31, 2024 10:43 PM

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/05/28/are_we_too_beari
sh_on_trump_151009.html

Sean Trende didn't make any friends writing this article, but when he's right come November, he's the only one out of his friends that should still be employed outside of a WalMart greeter position.

I'll give him that consolation prize, since he'll still be crying with all of them when Trump is announced the winner.

Yesterday was completely expected. Yesterday meant nothing.

Trump will be fine.

He will also be your next President.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, June 2, 2024 8:49 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Maybe Sean Trende speaks for himself or RCP, he was a guest on FoxNews, and CNN Radio, but he's old masonic university, Ivy League Yale pagan lodge club, not sure if they still have Skull and Bones The Order 322 but Yale people link with a lot of other Bilderberg, Babylon ritual Bohemia people.

Trump is actually looking tired, lower energy, it is starting to slowly wear him down

Bear Market who are you speaking for, yourself? the USA? Trump supporters?
slurry, a trudge and slow movement a negative or pessimistic

Fox won't support him, they would prfer DeSantis, globalist media hates him

if there is an elite pulling string then maybe they can do something, I think they will ban him in certain states like they are doing RFK

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Sean Trende didn't make any friends writing this article

try looking at it different, he's still in the Pagan Babylon club

the think the old Eagle with an Orange hairdo has fight in it

now saying Attack More!!

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, June 2, 2024 9:24 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Yesterday was completely expected. Yesterday meant nothing.

I expected a hung jury and another trial in 2025. I was amazed that an American court could make a decision rather than delay. Convicted felon Trump might be further convicted if the American legal system could do something other than delays followed by more delays in Trump's many legal cases:

The Cases Against Trump: A Guide For Voters

By David A. Graham | May 31, 2024, 12:49 PM ET

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/05/donald-trump-legal-c
ases-charges/675531/

In addition to the conviction in Manhattan, Trump faces 57 more felony counts across one state court and two different federal districts, any of which could potentially produce a prison sentence. He also lost a civil suit in New York that could hobble his business empire, as well as a pair of large defamation judgments. Meanwhile, he is the presumptive Republican nominee for president. His legal fate is being litigated at the same time that his political future is before voters.

Here’s a summary of the major legal cases against Trump, including key dates, an assessment of the gravity of the charges, and expectations about how they could turn out. This guide will be updated regularly as the cases proceed.

New York State: Fraud

In the fall of 2022, New York Attorney General Letitia James filed a civil suit against Trump, his adult sons, and his former aide Allen Weisselberg, alleging a years-long scheme in which Trump fraudulently reported the value of properties in order to either lower his tax bill or improve the terms of his loans, all with an eye toward inflating his net worth.

When?
Justice Arthur Engoron ruled on February 16 that Trump must pay $355 million plus interest, the calculated size of his ill-gotten gains from fraud. The judge had previously ruled against Trump and his co-defendants in late September 2023, concluding that many of the defendants’ claims were “clearly” fraudulent—so clearly that he didn’t need a trial to hear them.

How grave was the allegation?
Fraud is fraud, and in this case, the sum of the fraud stretched into the hundreds of millions—but compared with some of the other legal matters in which Trump is embroiled, this is a little pedestrian. The case was also civil rather than criminal. But although the stakes are lower for the nation, they remain high for Trump: The size of the penalty appears to be larger than Trump can easily pay, and he also faces a three-year ban on operating his company.

What happens now?
Trump has appealed the case. On March 25, the day he was supposed to post bond, an appeals court reduced the amount he must post from more than $464 million to $175 million. He must appeal by this summer.

Manhattan: Defamation and Sexual Assault

Although these other cases are all brought by government entities, Trump also faced a pair of defamation suits from the writer E. Jean Carroll, who said that Trump sexually assaulted her in a department-store dressing room in the 1990s. When he denied it, she sued him for defamation and later added a battery claim.

When?
In May 2023, a jury concluded that Trump had sexually assaulted and defamed Carroll, and awarded her $5 million. A second defamation case produced an $83.3 million judgment in January 2024.

How grave was the allegation?
Although these cases didn’t directly connect to the same fundamental issues of rule of law and democratic governance that some of the criminal cases do, they were a serious matter, and a federal judge’s blunt statement that Trump raped Carroll has gone underappreciated.

What happens now?
Trump has appealed both cases, and he posted bond for the $83.3 million in March. During the second trial, he also continued to insult Carroll, which may have courted additional defamation suits.

Manhattan: Hush Money

In March 2023, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg became the first prosecutor to bring felony charges against Trump, alleging that the former president falsified business records as part of a scheme to pay hush money to women who said they’d had sexual relationships with Trump.

When? The trial began on April 15 and ended with a May 30 conviction. Sentencing is scheduled for July 11.

How grave was the allegation?
Many people have analogized this case to Al Capone’s conviction on tax evasion: It’s not that he didn’t deserve it, but it wasn’t really why he was an infamous villain. Trump did deserve it, and he’s now a convicted felon. Moreover, although the charges were about falsifying records, those records were falsified to keep information from the public as it voted in the 2016 election. It was among the first of Trump’s many attacks on fair elections. (His two impeachments were also for efforts to undermine the electoral process.) If at times this case felt more minor compared with the election-subversion or classified-documents cases, it’s because those other cases have set a grossly high standard for what constitutes gravity.

What happens now?
The next major step is sentencing, which will come days before the Republican National Convention. Trump has also promised to appeal.

Department of Justice: Mar-a-Lago Documents

Jack Smith, a special counsel in the U.S. Justice Department, has charged Trump with 37 felonies in connection with his removal of documents from the White House when he left office. The charges include willful retention of national-security information, obstruction of justice, withholding of documents, and false statements. Trump took boxes of documents to properties, where they were stored haphazardly, but the indictment centers on his refusal to give them back to the government despite repeated requests.

When?
Smith filed charges in June 2023. On May 8, 2024, following several prior delays, Judge Aileen Cannon announced that she was indefinitely postponing the trial until preliminary issues could be resolved. Smith faces a de facto deadline of January 20, 2025, at which point Trump or any Republican president would likely shut down a case.

How grave is the allegation?
These are, I have written, the stupidest crimes imaginable, but they are nevertheless very serious. Protecting the nation’s secrets is one of the greatest responsibilities of any public official with classified clearance, and not only did Trump put these documents at risk, but he also (allegedly) refused to comply with a subpoena, tried to hide the documents, and lied to the government through his attorneys.

How plausible is a guilty verdict?
This may be the most open-and-shut case, and the facts and legal theory here are pretty straightforward. But Smith seems to have drawn a short straw when he was randomly assigned Cannon, a Trump appointee who has repeatedly ruled favorably for Trump on procedural matters. Some legal commentators have even accused her of “sabotaging” the case.

Fulton County: Election Subversion

In Fulton County, Georgia, which includes most of Atlanta, District Attorney Fani Willis brought a huge racketeering case against Trump and 18 others, alleging a conspiracy that spread across weeks and states with the aim of stealing the 2020 election.

When?
Willis obtained the indictment in August 2023. The number of people charged makes the case unwieldy and difficult to track. Several of them, including Kenneth Chesebro, Sidney Powell, and Jenna Ellis, struck plea deals in the fall. Willis has proposed a trial date of August 5, 2024, for the remaining defendants, but that may be delayed.

How grave is the allegation?
More than any other case, this one attempts to reckon with the full breadth of the assault on democracy following the 2020 election.

How plausible is a guilty verdict?
Expert views differ. This is a huge case for a local prosecutor, even in a county as large as Fulton, to bring. The racketeering law allows Willis to sweep in a great deal of material, and she has some strong evidence—such as a call in which Trump asked Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to “find” some 11,000 votes. Three major plea deals from co-defendants may also ease Willis’s path, but getting a jury to convict Trump will still be a challenge. The case has also been hurt by the revelation of a romantic relationship between Willis and an attorney she hired as a special prosecutor. On March 15, Judge Scott McAfee declined to throw out the indictment, but he sharply castigated Willis.

Department of Justice: Election Subversion

Special Counsel Smith has also charged Trump with four federal felonies in connection with his attempt to remain in power after losing the 2020 election. This case is in court in Washington, D.C.

When?
A grand jury indicted Trump on August 1, 2023. The trial was originally scheduled for March 4 but is now on hold pending a Supreme Court decision on whether the former president should be immune to prosecution. The window for a trial to occur before the election is narrowing quickly. As with the other DOJ case, time is of the essence for Smith, because Trump or any other Republican president could shut down a case upon taking office in January 2025.

How grave is the allegation?
This case rivals the Fulton County one in importance. It is narrower, focusing just on Trump and a few key elements of the paperwork coup, but the symbolic weight of the U.S. Justice Department prosecuting an attempt to subvert the American election system is heavy.

How plausible is a guilty verdict?
It’s very hard to say. Smith avoided some of the more unconventional potential charges, including aiding insurrection, and everyone watched much of the alleged crime unfold in public in real time, but no precedent exists for a case like this, with a defendant like this.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

--------------------------------------------------

Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:25 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

--------------------------------------------------

Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

You will be surprised if Trump isn't victorious because you don't understand that Trump stupidly jumped into a pool of legal trouble. If his self-control was better, he could have easily avoided the litigation. But he didn't.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, June 2, 2024 11:03 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

--------------------------------------------------

Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
You will be surprised if Trump isn't victorious because you don't understand that Trump stupidly jumped into a pool of legal trouble. If his self-control was better, he could have easily avoided the litigation. But he didn't.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

I think you're possibly making a fatal mistake by assuming that this wasn't strategy on Trump's part.

Democrats have proven time and time and time again since 2016 how predictable they are by nature. Nobody is surprised at all by the outcome.

It's been 8 years though and you still haven't been able to pin Trump down and you have no idea what he's going to do next.

999,999,999,999 men out of a trillion would have given up ever running for reelection after the hell that our government has put Trump through, and he's still not giving up.

Nobody in the history of America has campaigned through what's being inflicted on Trump, and he's virtually a guaranteed winner come November vs. Biden* at this point.

You can't keep a great man down.

And you're having one hell of a time trying to prop up a notably mediocre man in the meantime, both literally and metaphorically speaking, aren't you?

--------------------------------------------------

Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

YOUR OPTIONS

SHARE THREAD

NEW POSTS TODAY

USER	POST DATE

USER

POST DATE