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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
The Neo-Democratic party might be destorying itself but the true numbers don't really show it, plus you have the conspiracy side accusations of illegals voting and lack of IDs that inflate numbers...but you are not allowed question the system, unless you desire to be chucked into jail like Giuliani and others.


So its a slim win far less than Barack Obama even the second term, William McKinley 1897 who was shot in 1901, Jimmy Carter, it almost compares to the loss of Gore who did not win but lost to little George W. Bush 43


Kamala Harris and Joe Biden did a poor job, the win should have been bigger, the number creeps over the line and they continue to count Congressional House votes.


Maga Republicans. Tactically they ran a good election but the numbers don't show it

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Anyhow....

Add the 2 Million surplus that Trump just got over Harris in the popular vote to any of the above numbers and that's how many more people actually voted for Trump than how people have historically voted Democrat.

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And thank fucking God for the Electoral College. Because even in this election where Donald Trump DESTROYED Democrats by every measurable aspect, including MASSIVELY EATING AWAY AT THE DEMOCRAT'S SHARE OF ALL BLUE STATES INCLUDING CALIFORNIA, Harris is STILL going to end up with around 3.5 million more votes than Trump in that shit-show of a failing state.

To put it another way, Kamala Harris is going to win the 2024 Popular Vote in California by more than 1.5 Million more votes than Donald Trump's national Popular Vote win. Think about that.

And back in 2020, Joe Biden* won California by 5,103,821, constituting 72.3% of his entire national Popular Vote win over Trump in the one state alone.

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The Neo-Democratic party might be destorying itself but the true numbers don't really show it, plus you have the conspiracy side accusations of illegals voting and lack of IDs that inflate numbers...but you are not allowed question the system, unless you desire to be chucked into jail like Giuliani and others.


So its a slim win far less than Barack Obama even the second term, William McKinley 1897 who was shot in 1901, Jimmy Carter, it almost compares to the loss of Gore who did not win but lost to little George W. Bush 43


Kamala Harris and Joe Biden did a poor job, the win should have been bigger, the number creeps over the line and they continue to count Congressional House votes.


Maga Republicans. Tactically they ran a good election but the numbers don't show it

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None of this is true.

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7,059,526 votes came from California alone.

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
The numbers Joe Biden got to win the President don't really make sense but...

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The Neo-Democratic party might be destorying itself but the true numbers don't really show it, plus you have the conspiracy side accusations of illegals voting and lack of IDs that inflate numbers...but you are not allowed question the system, unless you desire to be chucked into jail like Giuliani and others.


So its a slim win far less than Barack Obama even the second term, William McKinley 1897 who was shot in 1901, Jimmy Carter, it almost compares to the loss of Gore who did not win but lost to little George W. Bush 43


Kamala Harris and Joe Biden did a poor job, the win should have been bigger, the number creeps over the line and they continue to count Congressional House votes.


Maga Republicans. Tactically they ran a good election but the numbers don't show it

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:



None of this is true.

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wait a second, before we get into the reality of Trump's slim win
did you not see your claim

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It's NOT a slim win. Not even close. After two elections in a row that were ultimately only decided by tens of thousands of votes in a handful of states, Trump just won EVERY so-called "battleground" state convincingly enough that nobody even talked about doing any recounts this year. Meanwhile every state they claimed was "leaning" Trump was a massive blowout for Trump while any state "leaning" Harris was close, a majority within the margin of polling error.

I'll ask you to once again look at the previous posts and ask me any questions you have regarding this.



An update I just made in the Elections regarding what the Popular Vote would look like this year (with the current, almost-finished counting)....

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
How do the popular vote numbers change if you take California out of the equation and it was a 49 state race?

Currently there are 14,981,489 votes counted in California.

9,080,964 for Harris, and 5,900,525 for Trump.



Total Popular Votes (Excluding California): 135,967,865

Total Trump Votes (Excluding California): 70,841,300 (52.1%)

Total Harris Votes (Excluding California): 65,126,565 (47.9%)


Trump's National Popular Vote Lead (Excluding California): 5,714,735

Yes. That is correct... Trump's national popular vote lead more than doubles if the 10% of the national electorate in California isn't included.

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This was nothing close to a slim win. This was a mandate.

If you took it a step further and removed Illinois and New York from the equation, Trump's popular vote win is nearly 7 Million votes.


I'm not saying disregard the Popular Vote altogether, but when you're looking at it you need to peel away at the layers for context.

A 2 Million plus Popular Vote victory for any Republican in 2024, let alone Donald Trump himself is a historic win. Specifically for all of the reasons stated above.

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it does not matter if they invaded Canadians and make the entire of Canada into a giant 51st State or Bezos and Richard Branson pay for people to have homes on the Moon and the Lunar Surface its made into a 51st state, that is the current system...

...if you don't like it, well I won't encourage you to dare question the machines and boxes, 'question' the system like Rudy because that might be you arrested

but maybe you can still do something, I don't know like maybe could encourage all those Lefwing Marxist Hippe Chaz/Chop types in Commiefornia to break away from the USA and have their own separate nation
but don't question the voting system

the system for now is here to stay

but you want to know what I think, thousands and possibly a full million of illegals from Mexico voted for Kamala and Joe Biden, that's why there is no ID and that is why Claudia Sheinbaum refused to recognize the Trump win and told everyone in California to keep counting
..and if not a full Million from Mexico, then a Million people with a link to overseas illegal immigrantion, people who have a cousin or aunt or illegal niece or illegal nephew or Uncle living illegally in the USA.

that's my opinion on it

but you are not allowed question your own election

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I don't have to do anything. I don't care if the Marxist hippies and illegal aliens take over California and the popular vote count in the state goes 100% blue in 2028 or beyond.

That's why the founders gave us the Electoral College. So California, New York and Illinois don't get to dictate how the other 47 states need to live.



And I'm also not all that worried about illegals voting either. I think they likely are, but it's in states that are so irredeemably blue that, again, it doesn't really matter because of the Popular Vote. Most states that aren't cheating and require voter ID like my state of Indiana is never going to let this become a problem.

My only real concern about the illegals is the representation that a state gets in the House of Representatives is based off of not only the amount of legitimate citizens counted in the state based off the Census, but of the amount of illegal alien invaders that they house as well. They get more house reps, they get more Electoral College votes. They get a LOT more federal money for entitlement programs.

All of that needs to stop. Zero extra house reps for Illegals. Zero extra electoral college votes for Illegals. Zero extra federal dollars for entitlement programs for Illegals.

You do all three of those things and not only will a lot of the people here illegally leave on their own, but once you take away any and all financial incentives the Democrats in power in blue states will quickly shift their stance on "sanctuary cities" too.



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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.