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My MAGA moment. What was yours?

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Saturday, January 4, 2025 7:51 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I posted this in 2015 http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60275 and it references some time around 2012...

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Anyway, when PN would pop up with his unique Templar-Nazi-Jewish-Communist-Trilateral-British-whatever conspiracy theory, my eyes would kind of roll because that made no historical sense whatsoever. It just occurred to me a couple of days ago that PN was right-ish about some of that, but I need to tell you a shaggy-dog story how I got to that point.

About three or so years ago, here on this board, I converted to nationalism. I've known for many years that international banks and international corporations are simply world-scale money-concentrators and poverty-creators .... and they manage to practice that on a global scale, where people can not only be pitted against each other for jobs and money on the basis of sex, religion, education, and age but also on the basis of nationality.

Now, one of the things I've sensed for YEARS, and have expressed quite often (to the dismay of my liberal friends here) is that it's impossible to have a rational, effective national policy on .... well, anything .... the environment, population, employment, freedom, war, currency .... if your borders are open to people, goods, and money. No matter WHAT you try to do internally, it will be undone by more powerful forces, and you can bet that international businesses only SOMETIMES operate in your favor (if you have something especially valuable to trade) but ALWAYS operate in their own favor. That's why I'm universally hostile to so-called "free trade" agreements, and not too much in favor of immigration.

In the back of my mind is the prediction by Karl Marx (according to my Marxist friends)
that socialism will never come about until the world in completely under the thumb of capitalists and bankers. Once all distinctions have been wiped out ... we no longer see ourselves as Xtian or Muslim, male or female, gay or straight, American or Azeri, old or young, but simply as individual units... ONLY THEN will we be able to recognize the universality of our collective experience as workers, and revolt worldwide. So, if I'm pro-socialist .... shouldn't I be looking forward to that day? Am I not fighting an inevitable ... and even brighter! ... future history by my stubborn, regressive refusal to become an international piece of nothing? At some point during my discussion with Bytemite,I came to a "Fuck it" moment. I don't care if I'm fighting the inevitable or not. I just can't go along with a system that intends to grind the 99.999999% into a homogenous powerless paste. I want MY nation, and ALL nations, to have the capability to solve their own problems, on their own soil.



Show me my ID card that says I'm a "world citizen", and point me in the direction of the voting booth where I can vote on world policy.
to globalists.

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Saturday, January 4, 2025 9:49 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Love it.

As much as I hate when Jaynez necroposts everything, he's bumped up a few threads were I get to read something I wrote as far back as 2008 that I never would have looked for on my own and I get a kick out of reading them. Most of them I don't remember even writing at this point, so it's kind of fun to see how close or far I still am on a particular issue I was writing about almost half a life time ago. Maybe trying to imagine what I was doing at that point in my life and what I thought about things back then.


I think I was always "MAGA"... at least as soon as I started paying attention to politics anyway. I'm not going to say that the summer I read both 1984 and Brave New World was the moment the light switch flipped, but it was somewhere around that time. Probably a year or two after Firefly came and went, and maybe a few years before my brother introduced me to Firefly and I came here.


The entire time I grew up, all I ever heard from the teachers is how shit we were as a country. For real... Not even making that up. Our test scores suck internationally. We're fatter than everyone else. There's more violence here than anywhere else. We do this wrong. We do that wrong. We're just awful.

And only a year before we started getting all of that Programming, we were singing God Bless America and This Land is Your Land is Your Land in music class and even the Mexican kid and the Arabic kid were singing right along with us. Nobody thought nothing of any of it. We were kids.


What I want to know is who the fuck doesn't want to Make America Great Again?

We do suck. At pretty much everything. We have for all of my life at least.

But in the 2020's the level of how much we suck at everything has just gone off the charts.

I love America. But America sucks.


I don't know what the answer is. I don't have any answers to any of the questions. I don't even know all the questions. The older I get the more I realize that none of us know nothing about nothing.

The only thing I do know is that the quick dopamine hits everyone is addicted to getting by arguing online isn't helping anybody fix anything.

We're a country of fucking junkies.

If anybody in China behaves on TikTok the way that 90% of Americans conduct themselves online and in real life everyday the black choppers come in at night and they disappear forever.

Most of us know we behave terribly, but we can't stop. Not when almost nobody even realizes how addicted to all of this they really are because they never pull away for a few weeks just to see how hard it would be to live offline and how long they could make it.

When is the last time you tested that out for yourself?

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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Sunday, January 5, 2025 10:07 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Love it.

As much as I hate when Jaynez necroposts everything, he's bumped up a few threads were I get to read something I wrote as far back as 2008 that I never would have looked for on my own and I get a kick out of reading them. Most of them I don't remember even writing at this point, so it's kind of fun to see how close or far I still am on a particular issue I was writing about almost half a life time ago. Maybe trying to imagine what I was doing at that point in my life and what I thought about things back then.

Yes, its interesting. Sometimes I read what I wrote with an "I wrote that? " feeling.

I think in 2002 I wasn't a rabid Dem ... but I still thought our government could, should, fix a lot of things. It took me quite a while to sort out that while governments, if properly run, CAN do a lot of good, THIS government was 99.9% corrupted.
Oh the naivete!


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I think I was always "MAGA"... at least as soon as I started paying attention to politics anyway. I'm not going to say that the summer I read both 1984 and Brave New World was the moment the light switch flipped, but it was somewhere around that time. Probably a year or two after Firefly came and went, and maybe a few years before my brother introduced me to Firefly and I came here.


The entire time I grew up, all I ever heard from the teachers is how shit we were as a country. For real... Not even making that up. Our test scores suck internationally. We're fatter than everyone else. There's more violence here than anywhere else. We do this wrong. We do that wrong. We're just awful.

And only a year before we started getting all of that Programming, we were singing God Bless America and This Land is Your Land is Your Land in music class and even the Mexican kid and the Arabic kid were singing right along with us. Nobody thought nothing of any of it. We were kids.

What I want to know is who the fuck doesn't want to Make America Great Again?

Those who don't want to admit that the USA isn't perfect?
People on the far end of the globalist- promoted narrative?

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We do suck. At pretty much everything. We have for all of my life at least.

But in the 2020's the level of how much we suck at everything has just gone off the charts.

Every time I think "It cant get worse" ... it does. And Biden*, in its waning days, cranked up the dial of suckage to 100. He* thinks he's*got nothing to lose. That makes him incredibly dangerous.

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I love America. But America sucks.

I don't know what the answer is. I don't have any answers to any of the questions. I don't even know all the questions. The older I get the more I realize that none of us know nothing about nothing.

SIX, the fact that we're still learning is a GOOD thing. As we keep banging the model in our heads against the real world, we get closer to the truth. Plus, understanding doesn't have to be a solitary pursuit. That's why we discuss. I know I've learned from you.

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The only thing I do know is that the quick dopamine hits everyone is addicted to getting by arguing online isn't helping anybody fix anything.

We're a country of fucking junkies.

If anybody in China behaves on TikTok the way that 90% of Americans conduct themselves online and in real life everyday the black choppers come in at night and they disappear forever.

Most of us know we behave terribly, but we can't stop. Not when almost nobody even realizes how addicted to all of this they really are because they never pull away for a few weeks just to see how hard it would be to live offline and how long they could make it.

When is the last time you tested that out for yourself?

I spend a lot of time with the internet, but this is the closest I get to social media.

A lot of the time I'm looking something up. Medicine. Landscaping. Home improvement. Recipes. "How to". Another large part of the time I'm listening to somebody's video [usually Alexander Mercouris, bc he's long winded! Or Scott on Waterwise Gardening, bc he knows a lot.) while I'm doing something boring, like dishes or food prep or digging weeds. In my experience, if you find a good source you can learn a lot. Fortunately for me, while I'm still incredibly busy even tho retired, hubby has more time to bunny trail thru the inet and find insightful POV.

Last time we had a 12 hour inet outage, life was sure boring!

Hmmm... maybe you're right. Even if the dopamine hits are muted, they're still there.




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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon


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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger


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