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Mutant Enemy president speaks about future of Firefly

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Wednesday, January 15, 2003 6:04 AM

SIMONF


Not looking good at all, but there is a glimmer of hope and I really admire the effort Joss and co are making to save the show.

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2003-01/15/13.00.tv


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Wednesday, January 15, 2003 6:21 AM

LOSTANGEL


ohsh**t ohsh**t ohsh**t

NOW WHAT????????

2 million dollars? Canada has been stealing a lot of filming away from the States, and their dollars are less than ours, hell, I'll up and move and become a volunteer gofer and stuff if it'll get the show in the air!

Yes, I'm serious, nothing's holding me where I am, I just haven't found a better place to go yet.

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Wednesday, January 15, 2003 6:25 AM

BRTICK


gorramit. I'm sad now.

Keep Flying!

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Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:47 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Why are you sad? They are clearly saying that they have not given up yet, so why should we?

Quote:

Buchanan said that the series' elaborate sets remain intact for now. Before wrapping, the show shot three original episodes that have yet to air.


This is good news. The sets have not been dismantled, so obviously the crew are holding out hope.

Quote:

One problem is Firefly's cost: $2 million per episode, Buchanan said. But, he added, "Joss is completely committed to finding a home for it. And we're joking, we're saying puppet theater if need be. Because we just love our whole cast and crew and have had a great time on it.


Again good news. Joss is still committed to the fight for a home for Firefly so we should be as well.

Keep the faith Browncoats. Serenity will fly again. I am sure of it.


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Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:01 AM

NADJA


Thanks for posting that article! At least ME is still hopeful and still trying.

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Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:58 AM

HAKEN

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Whoa! $2 Million per episode? Maybe my memory is bad, but I thought Firefly was supposed to cost less than 'Buffy' or 'Angel'.

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Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:59 AM

QUEENTIYE


Sorry to be pessimistic, but ME is NOT hopeful. They just said that it is very grim. What they are is exhaustive - they seem to want to exhaust every avenue at giving the show a chance. For which I am very appreciative. But not hopeful.

QueenTiye, Companion Academy drop-out!

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Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:21 AM

TALLGRRL


Having problems getting that page to open.
Tried to get into through a back end www.scifi.com, but nothing's happening.
Seems to be a javascript error on the page or something.
Can you please re-post that link?


TllGrrl
"Take me, Sir. Take me hard."

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Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:12 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Here you go TallGrrl, the entire article:

Networks Nix Firefly

Christopher Buchanan—president of Joss Whedon's production company, Mutant Enemy, which is behind Fox's defunct Firefly—told SCI FI Wire that ABC, CBS, NBC, UPN and the SCI FI Channel have all turned down deals to resurrect the SF series, at least so far. "The status of Firefly as of today is, ... the clock is running down in the fourth quarter, and we're 90 yards away from the goal line, and the Hail Mary is coming up," Buchanan said in an interview.

Fox put the low-rated series on indefinite hiatus after airing the show's two-hour pilot on Dec. 20, and creator Whedon (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) has been frantically trying to find another home for the show. Buchanan said that the series' elaborate sets remain intact for now. Before wrapping, the show shot three original episodes that have yet to air.

"We've explored some of the networks and haven't really made a lot of progress," Buchanan said at UPN's winter press preview. Why? "The cost of the show, the timing, the fact that we didn't finish a full season and have other networks out there figuring out what they have in terms of pilots, what they have in terms of their own series cancellations. Timing is just horrible."

One problem is Firefly's cost: $2 million per episode, Buchanan said. But, he added, "Joss is completely committed to finding a home for it. And we're joking, we're saying puppet theater if need be. Because we just love our whole cast and crew and have had a great time on it. But we're on life support right now. It's pretty grim right now." A cable network is one possible venue. "We've gone so far as to explore the options in terms of, ... without going into great detail, everything from could we move the show to Canada? ... But the reality is, it's a pretty expensive show. And the budget would have to come down significantly. And just given [studio] 20th [Television]'s investment and all the people involved and stuff, it's pretty unlikely that we would go on, I think, in syndication."


I am afraid I have to disagree w/ QueenTyie though, the fact that Joss has not given up and that he is still pursuing gives me far more hope than Chris saying, "All networks have turned us down so we are packing it up, tearing down the sets and calling it quits". At this point anything short of that is hopeful in my book.


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Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:50 AM

SELNYC


Quote:

Originally posted by Haken:
Whoa! $2 Million per episode? Maybe my memory is bad, but I thought Firefly was supposed to cost less than 'Buffy' or 'Angel'.



Haken, remember those other two shows are on what our pal Hercules refers to as "netlets", with less resources (not to mention viewers) than a full network like Fox or ABC.

Yeah, Buffy left the WB because Fox/ME wanted more $$$ per episode, but my sense is that Angel is still being shot on the cheap, relatively speaking. Joss got $2M per ep for Firefly based on the success of those shows.

And I think all that money DOES show up on screen. For all our talk about other SF shows, I've never seen one with the production values of Firefly. The special effects are a good example: check out this article from the FX house that does/did Firefly:

http://millimeter.com/ar/video_fly_inside_firefly/



I'm a mean old man.

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Thursday, January 16, 2003 6:39 PM

KATRINALOUISA


Quote:

Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Here you go TallGrrl, the entire article:

Networks Nix Firefly

Christopher Buchanan—president of Joss Whedon's production company, Mutant Enemy, which is behind Fox's defunct Firefly—told SCI FI Wire that ABC, CBS, NBC, UPN and the SCI FI Channel have all turned down deals to resurrect the SF series, at least so far. "The status of Firefly as of today is, ... the clock is running down in the fourth quarter, and we're 90 yards away from the goal line, and the Hail Mary is coming up," Buchanan said in an interview.

Fox put the low-rated series on indefinite hiatus after airing the show's two-hour pilot on Dec. 20, and creator Whedon (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) has been frantically trying to find another home for the show. Buchanan said that the series' elaborate sets remain intact for now. Before wrapping, the show shot three original episodes that have yet to air.

"We've explored some of the networks and haven't really made a lot of progress," Buchanan said at UPN's winter press preview. Why? "The cost of the show, the timing, the fact that we didn't finish a full season and have other networks out there figuring out what they have in terms of pilots, what they have in terms of their own series cancellations. Timing is just horrible."

One problem is Firefly's cost: $2 million per episode, Buchanan said. But, he added, "Joss is completely committed to finding a home for it. And we're joking, we're saying puppet theater if need be. Because we just love our whole cast and crew and have had a great time on it. But we're on life support right now. It's pretty grim right now." A cable network is one possible venue. "We've gone so far as to explore the options in terms of, ... without going into great detail, everything from could we move the show to Canada? ... But the reality is, it's a pretty expensive show. And the budget would have to come down significantly. And just given [studio] 20th [Television]'s investment and all the people involved and stuff, it's pretty unlikely that we would go on, I think, in syndication."


I am afraid I have to disagree w/ QueenTyie though, the fact that Joss has not given up and that he is still pursuing gives me far more hope than Chris saying, "All networks have turned us down so we are packing it up, tearing down the sets and calling it quits". At this point anything short of that is hopeful in my book.


"Let's make this perfectly clear, I do the job, I get paid." Hell, I'm willing to pay!

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