Joss is writing X-men! by Spookyjesus

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Joss is writing X-men!

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UPDATED: Monday, February 23, 2004 06:51
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Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:22 PM

The comic - He's creating an X-book called Astonishing X-men that'll be out may..

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Hit televisions shows just weren’t enough for Joss Whedon, he had to have the X-Men too. After creating both “Buffy: The Vampire Slayer” and the hit spin-off “Angel,” Whedon’s now signed on to write a new X-Men title debuting in May. Alongside superstar artist John Cassaday (Planetary), Whedon will launch Astonishing X-Men, the newest title to join the ever-expanding X-line of books.

“For the last couple of years, I’ve really been reading New X-Men pretty avidly,” Whedon told Wizard. “I was really into the book and I don't have three shows on the air anymore, just one. I love the world so much. I love the book. I felt like, ‘Well, my schedule is opening up a little bit and these guys are all so cool, it'd be so much fun.’ Then, John Cassaday expressed interest—that made it exciting and everything kind of fell into place.”

While Whedon’s team members are still top secret and he’s wary of releasing too many details about his upcoming 12-issue run, Cassaday did mention that it was a hard deal to turn down after the artist heard about the cast of characters he’d be allowed to draw

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Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:35 PM

GHOULMAN

You're a dick.

A big ole' cup o' mudders milk if you know what that quote is all about.

Funny, Joss seems so desperate to get his artistic energy out. Comics are a terrific medium for creators like Joss and I'd be excited to read his X-Men. I hate superhero fascists but X-Men have been more about underdogs and family than whatever it is that nut Batdude is up too.

But...

Joss; can ya not try joining us here in the real world? Grow a set. Make your own comic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:54 PM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES

He did, it was called Fray. It took forever to come out (did it ever finish? Or is he trying to emulate Kevin Smith?)

Can't wait to see what Joss will do on X-Men - I got back into comics when JMS did Rising Stars and Midnight Nation, and what he is doing with Amazing Spiderman is fantastic - which has lead me back to comics after so long off, to discover there is some great work there. When Kevin Smith can get a book out, its usually pretty good.

Try Runaways, which is in a similar vein to Buffy in some ways.

"I threw up on your bed"

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Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:57 PM

ASTRIANA

Quote:
Originally posted by Ghoulman:
You're a dick.

A big ole' cup o' mudders milk if you know what that quote is all about.

Funny, Joss seems so desperate to get his artistic energy out. Comics are a terrific medium for creators like Joss and I'd be excited to read his X-Men. I hate superhero fascists but X-Men have been more about underdogs and family than whatever it is that nut Batdude is up too.

But...

Joss; can ya not try joining us here in the real world? Grow a set. Make your own comic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A couple of things:

First: We all like to play in the worlds Joss creates, why shouldn't he play in a world someone else created for a while?

And Second: Excuse me, I don't think that SpookyJesus said anything worthy of your rather nasty commentary. Also don't think Joss deserves your venom, either. If you must spew, please do it somewhere (and on someone) else.

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

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Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:58 PM

SLAYER730

AHHH!!! Joss writing the X-Men! The best of both worlds! Man, that's fandom to the extreme...I'm a dork.

***Never judge a book by its movie***

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Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:11 PM

CZELT

Quote:
Originally posted by Astriana:
Quote:
Originally posted by Ghoulman:
You're a dick.

A couple of things:

And Second: Excuse me, I don't think that SpookyJesus said anything worthy of your rather nasty commentary.

~A~

If the "You're a dick" is the insult you're referring to, Ghoulman wasn't insulting SpookyJesus. He was just quoting a Wolverine comment from the first film.

I suspect there was a continuity jump in there somewhere. (As in: Mention of X-Men - thought of funny quote from X-Men pops into head - post including funny quote, even though no one else was thinking of it.)

On the other hand, if that wasn't the intention, then yeah -- it was uncalled for.

(Just tryin' to keep the peace.)

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Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:12 PM

CZELT

Also -- foo on there not being a "preview" button, or I would have edited that quotation bit down a little.

Ah well. :-)

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Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:13 PM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Quote:
Originally posted by Astriana:
First: We all like to play in the worlds Joss creates, why shouldn't he play in a world someone else created for a while?

And Second: Excuse me, I don't think that SpookyJesus said anything worthy of your rather nasty commentary. Also don't think Joss deserves your venom, either. If you must spew, please do it somewhere (and on someone) else.

On the second point, I think it was a quote from the X-Men movie - Wolvie to Cyclops (can't find a geek emoticon)

On the first, well said! Given the body of JW's work, X-Men would seem to complement his sensibilities perfectly - and the dialogue should zing.

"I threw up on your bed"

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Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:15 PM

ASTRIANA

Quote:
Originally posted by Czelt:
Quote:
Originally posted by Astriana:
Quote:
Originally posted by Ghoulman: You're a dick.

And Second: Excuse me, I don't think that SpookyJesus said anything worthy of your rather nasty commentary.

~A~

If the "You're a dick" is the insult you're referring to, Ghoulman wasn't insulting SpookyJesus. He was just quoting a Wolverine comment from the first film.

I suspect there was a continuity jump in there somewhere. (As in: Mention of X-Men - thought of funny quote from X-Men pops into head - post including funny quote, even though no one else was thinking of it.)

On the other hand, if that wasn't the intention, then yeah -- it was uncalled for.

(Just tryin' to keep the peace.)

Y'know, you just might have a point there; I do recall that quote. If I've jumped Ghoulman unnecessarily, I heartily and wholeheartedly apologize.

I stand by the Joss defense, though...

Thanks, Czelt and MBV

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

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Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:16 PM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Quote:
Originally posted by Misguided By Voices:
and the dialogue should zing.

Daddio. I feel old just for using that word

"I threw up on your bed"

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Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:28 PM

ASTRIANA

OHHHHH! I get it! Okay, I do owe Ghoulman an apology. I just re-read his post (for the umpteenth time), and understood the part about:

Quote:
You're a dick.
A big ole' cup o' mudders milk if you know what that quote is all about.

I didn't connect the two statements in my head. Derrrr... Guess there's no mudder's milk in my future, eh?

Ghoulman, sorry 'bout my misunderstanding, dude.

~A~ (AKA "Queen of Shoving Her Foot Solidly Down Her Throat")

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

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Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:42 PM

DRALIONSOLEIL

"You're a dick."
is one of two survivng jokes from joss's rewrite of X-men. they'd asked him to punch up the script a little. he did. they threw out everything but two jokes, and one of them was butchered.

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Wednesday, February 18, 2004 2:35 PM

JENNNLEE

What was the other joke in the movie, the one that was butchered? I knew that he did script work, but I didn't know what from the movie was still his.

I'm personally excited to read his take on the X-Men. I got out of the books in the past year or so, not long after the latest re-launch. It'll be fun to jump back in with Joss and see what he does with them.

FRAY was finally finished; I think the problem was that the artist (Moline?) had over-extended himself just a tad by starting work on ROUTE 666 for CrossGen. I can't remember if there were script delays too, but I thought a lot of it was artist-related. I remember being ticked when ROUTE 666 came out. "DUDE!! Finish FRAY first!!!"

(longtime FF fan from day 1, first time poster)

-jen

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Wednesday, February 18, 2004 2:44 PM

DRALIONSOLEIL

the toad lightning joke.
"You know what happens to a toad when it gets hit by lightning?
The same thing that happens to everything else."

here's some more detail about it in an interveiw with joss:
http://www.theonionavclub.com/avclub3731/avfeature_3731.html

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Wednesday, February 18, 2004 3:06 PM

SERENITYNOW

Quote:
Originally posted by Misguided By Voices:
He did, it was called Fray. It took forever to come out (did it ever finish? Or is he trying to emulate Kevin Smith?)

He's got that Buffy comic series ("Tales of the Vampire Slayer" I /think/) and recently a vampire-perspective one (with some touching background on Drusilla and Spike just before they came to Sunnydale). He just wrote the introductory piece, though, and mostly gets other writers I think. Still.

http://dryope.typepad.com/superfly/

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Thursday, February 19, 2004 5:08 AM

GHOULMAN

Quote:
Originally posted by DralionSoleil:
"You're a dick."
is one of two survivng jokes from joss's rewrite of X-men. they'd asked him to punch up the script a little. he did. they threw out everything but two jokes, and one of them was butchered.

*Ding Ding Ding Ding!* you get a big ole cup o' the GOOD stuff! TOO JAYNE!!! *gulp* TOO JOSS!!! *gulp gulp gulp*.

No worries ASTRIANA. That 'dick' comment is the only real surviving line Joss wrote for that movie. No drinks for you.

Quote:
Originally posted by DralionSoleil:
"You're a dick."
is one of two survivng jokes from joss's rewrite of X-men. they'd asked him to punch up the script a little. he did. they threw out everything but two jokes, and one of them was butchered.

And then I added 'why doesn't joss do his own comic?" which is neither here nor there. Just my personal desire to see Joss to something in the 'real' world. I read X-Men in high school and loved it and I liked the first movie very much.

I heard of Fray. Forgot about it actually so I stand corrected! I noticed Marvel comics is putting out a lot of money for writers outside of comics. Kevin being the most well known example, and now Joss. Makes sense... Hollywoodland has been stealing from comics for years so comics might as well get something back.

And then I added 'why doesn't joss do his own comic?" which is neither here nor there. Just my personal desire to see Joss to something in the 'real' world. I read X-Men in high school and loved it (Chris Clarmont was the writer then) and I liked the first movie very much.

I heard of Fray. Forgot about it actually so I stand corrected! I noticed Marvel comics is putting out a lot of money for writers outside of comics. Kevin being the most well known example, and now Joss. Makes sense... Hollywoodland has been stealing from comics for years so comics might as well get something back.

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Thursday, February 19, 2004 5:10 AM

GHOULMAN

^^^ no idea how that happened.

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Thursday, February 19, 2004 5:23 AM

DRALIONSOLEIL

well there's a new variant on the double post. iiiiinteresting...
that's confusing to read too.....

and thanks ghoulman!
::toast to joss!!::

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Thursday, February 19, 2004 5:55 AM

OKKAY

Hey, does anyone know where I can get a list of all the comics that Joss (or other Buffy/Angel/Firefly writers) have done?

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Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:02 AM

ASTRIANA

Quote:
Originally posted by Ghoulman:
No worries ASTRIANA. That 'dick' comment is the only real surviving line Joss wrote for that movie. But I'll get ya a drink anyho'

I heard of Fray. Forgot about it actually so I stand corrected! I noticed Marvel comics is putting out a lot of money for writers outside of comics. Kevin being the most well known example, and now Joss. Makes sense... Hollywoodland has been stealing from comics for years so comics might as well get something back.

Awww, thanks, Ghoulman, you're a doll!

And I have to agree, that was one of the more interesting variants of a double post!

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

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Thursday, February 19, 2004 7:09 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

I have to admit that I have not read a comic book in awhile, years in fact. The writing just got so bland and repetitive that I quit collecting and reading.

If Joss is going to start writing for X-Men, then I will check it out.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:10 AM

SPOOKYJESUS

Thanks to Astriana for the defence - I didn't get the quote reference the first time I read it as I thought Ghoulman was having a go at my Got Milk? reference (Yes I know it's sad to reference Got Milk?). - That is an obscure reference though.

Also Fray is available as a trade paper back and I'd encourage all of you to buy it - not only because it's awesome but to encourage Dark Horse to continue to publish Joss' work, such as the chance of a Firefly series via Dark horse's Rocket comics (sci-fi) imprint.

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Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:10 PM

BENCHCOAT

There's good and bad here.

Good: Hopefully his name associated with the comic will bring some of that big fanbase to the Firefly movie.

It should be a fun and gorgeous comic (Cassady is a great comic artist)!

Bad: Cassady is a very very very slow artist, so expect delays. Hopefully, any slowness won't antagonize fans and drive them away from Joss and Firefly.

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Sunday, February 22, 2004 12:01 PM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Quote:
Originally posted by benchcoat:
Bad: Cassady is a very very very slow artist, so expect delays. Hopefully, any slowness won't antagonize fans and drive them away from Joss and Firefly.

But hopefully, as X-Men is a flagship title, they will insist on the comic being far enough ahead not to mess the schedule up - they don't want to lose any momentum built up with the movies (that said, there are about a zillion X titles - but as I understand it this is something of a re-boot across the board).

"I threw up on your bed"

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Monday, February 23, 2004 6:51 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

It would be nice if some fan crossover from the X-Men title came over to Firefly, but I don't know if the numbers would be significant or not. Of course any number of fans is better than nothing.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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