Why doesn't SCI-FI channel pick up Firefly?? by hunter301

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Why doesn't SCI-FI channel pick up Firefly??

POSTED BY: HUNTER301
UPDATED: Monday, April 12, 2004 18:44
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Thursday, April 8, 2004 11:51 AM

HUNTER301

I think it would be a great addition to their stable. They picked up Stargate:SG1 and look at the following it has.

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Thursday, April 8, 2004 11:57 AM

APEMAN61

I agree, i mean they recently even picked up Andromeda why not Firefly too. They have problems too though. They cancelled Farscape which is a hell of a show. Lately they have been airing some strange shows too but oh well. Hopefully they will pick it up.

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Thursday, April 8, 2004 1:10 PM

ECMORGAN69

I've been wondering who's been hiring all the idiot FOX TV executives that actually get fired...

Judging by the inclusion of all the stupid reptile movies, "Tripping The Rift", and "Mad, Mad House", SciFi must be snatching them all off the unemployment line

They can have my "Firefly" DVDs when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers....

Oh yeah,

you, FOX TV!!

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Thursday, April 8, 2004 1:19 PM

SERGEANTX

I remember reading that the Sci-fi channel wanted to broaden their scope and move away from spaceship style science fiction. Plus, "Firefly" would make the rest of their line-up look like a steaming pile of dog crap in comparison.
I'd rather see HBO or Showtime pick it up.

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

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Thursday, April 8, 2004 1:23 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.

You're right the premium channels would probably do a much better job, but then I'd have to pickup those channels. Probably double my cable bill in the process.

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Thursday, April 8, 2004 1:31 PM

SERGEANTX

Heh, yeah. I don't even have cable. I'd find some way to watch the episodes. Wouldn't you rather see Whedon and crew have the artistic freedom that the premium cable networks allow?

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

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Thursday, April 8, 2004 1:54 PM

LINDLEY

Firefly on Showtime....with naked Kaylee and Inara....*happy place*

Um. Anyway, I'd love for Scifi to pick it up, but it wouldn't be realistic to expect it any time soon. Maybe after the movie-----particularly if the new BSG series doesn't do so well.

Right now, Scifi is pretty much fully-loaded with BSG, SG1 season 8, and SGA.

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Thursday, April 8, 2004 2:19 PM

SHADESIREN

SciFi is a channel I used to INSIST on having - now I NEVER watch it. I keep an eye out for something new, but it's all crap.

I TRY.. oh, I really, really TRIED.. to like SG-1. I like the actors. I ADORE Dean and Roland (ok, so yeah, they didn't make the TV show, just the movie, but still..)

But now. I just.. I hate it. It's so dumb.. boring.. and no matter how I try, I can't make myself LIKE it.

Now I wait for Tru Calling to canceled, and try to console myself waiting for CSI on thursdays.. spending the rest of my week watching Deadwood and waiting for Carnivale...

Keep Flyin'..

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Thursday, April 8, 2004 2:23 PM

LINDLEY

^Dumb in what way? It doesn't always take itself seriously, its true, but its still more intelligent than some of the Trek series.

Although its true that season 7 was been a bit on the dull side.

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Thursday, April 8, 2004 3:40 PM

WILDHEAVENFARM

I've wondered that since the show went into hiatus, which always means death. When TNN changed to Spike TV, I went to their website and emphatically begged them to pick up Firefly, but did they? Noooooo. Probably kicking themselves in the asses now for it. If any network exec's assistants are reading thing, ITS NOT TOO LATE. Well, here's to hoping.

Mary
Always a beast, never a burden.

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Thursday, April 8, 2004 4:30 PM

INVISIBLEGREEN

A) SCI-FI doesn't have very much money. Firefly is pretty expensive to produce. SG-1 has a really cheap budget for a genre show. Picking up SG-1 wasn't a big risk.

B) Firefly got terrible ratings. Networks want shows that will bring them revenue through advertising.

C) SCI-FI wasn't interested in having another "people in space" show. They are looking more into other branches of science fiction, like fantasy and historical drama.

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Thursday, April 8, 2004 4:54 PM

HUNTER301

I have to disagree on the point that the ratings will be bad on SF. While all the people didn't like FF on the networks, channels like SF cater to the large group of people that do like it. I think SF has been trying to hard lately to get into the big budget movie making area. While I loved some of the movies, especially "Dog Soldiers" now that was a kick ass movie, most of them have been getting pretty lame including their last one "Phantom Force". SF was made for shows like FF and SG1. It should be constantly running re-runs of all the Star Trek episodes. After all that is what made science fiction. And with it being on a pay channel such as showtime and HBO you wouldn't get as big a following resulting in lower ratings again. I had to join Showtime just so I could follow the "Jeremiah" series.

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Thursday, April 8, 2004 6:53 PM

DOCTORTAM

Quote:
Originally posted by Lindley:
Firefly on Showtime....with naked Kaylee and Inara....*happy place*

I'll be in my bunk

Why doesn't it ever go smooth?

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Thursday, April 8, 2004 7:36 PM

INVISIBLEGREEN

Quote:
Originally posted by hunter301:
I have to disagree on the point that the ratings will be bad on SF. While all the people didn't like FF on the networks, channels like SF cater to the large group of people that do like it....And with it being on a pay channel such as showtime and HBO you wouldn't get as big a following resulting in lower ratings again.

It's true that it wouldn't be expected to get higher ratings on SCI-FI, or even slightly lower ratings. FOX is available to over 90% of households; SCI-FI, not so much. But they still want a show that enough people will watch. Since the show had little viewership on FOX, that viewership would be many times smaller on SCI-FI, and it would not have been worth it for SCI-FI to pick it up. The single reason "Firefly" was cancelled was because of low ratings (right now, let's ignore the reasons why it got low ratings). That never bodes well for a series' pick-up on another network.

It is true that SCI-FI caters to SCI-FI fans, but almost everyone who has SCI-FI has FOX, so the ratings could only go down.

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Thursday, April 8, 2004 7:56 PM

DIGGER66

Quote:
Originally posted by hunter301:
While I loved some of the movies, especially "Dog Soldiers" now that was a kick ass movie, most of them have been getting pretty lame including their last one "Phantom Force".

Dog Soldiers was NOT a SciFi original movie. It was a theatrical release in the UK.

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Thursday, April 8, 2004 9:18 PM

ARAWAEN

At least I am not the only one who is questioning Sci-Fi's latest lineup.

Anybody else notice that 'A Sci-Fi Original Film' usually contains nothing original.

Arawaen

Um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm Angry. And I'm Armed.

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Friday, April 9, 2004 3:07 AM

LIZ

yeah... everytime i flip by Sci-Fi it looks like some large bug is eating people or some such nonsense.

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Sunday, April 11, 2004 4:46 AM

MRSKBORG

Sci-Fi pick up FF. Please. They cancelled Farscape that about says it all. Over in the UK we have um Veritas the Quest, Tremors and they keep showing some film called deep core? Needless to say I dont watch any of the above rubbish. When Sci-Fi have picked up good shows in the past they have nearly always cancelled them - I think that they think it makes their own stuff look good! Sky One pick up most of the good stuff SG1, Enterprise, Alias although its now appeared on Bravo go figure.

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Sunday, April 11, 2004 5:37 PM

LILIANNA

Has anyone thought about possibly having every send a bunch of letters to the station? Maybe that could get them to at least consider it. Or maybe thye simply can't yet due to copyrights for the movie??

Sometimes dreams are all you have to keep going for the next day...

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Sunday, April 11, 2004 5:57 PM

SADLITTLEKING

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
I remember reading that the Sci-fi channel wanted to broaden their scope and move away from spaceship style science fiction. Plus, "Firefly" would make the rest of their line-up look like a steaming pile of dog crap in comparison.
I'd rather see HBO or Showtime pick it up.

I'd love to see HBO pick up Firefly...since I don't have Showtime.

Aren't Fox and HBO owned by the same company?

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Sunday, April 11, 2004 7:28 PM

STATIC

HEY!!!!

If HBO picked up Firefly. . .we could maybe see Inara's boobies???????

Gimme a break. I've been "in country" for months!

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Sunday, April 11, 2004 9:16 PM

ZOID

Static wrote:

"...If HBO picked up Firefly. . .we could maybe see Inara's boobies???????..."

Sacrilege! Morena's so beautiful, I don't even want to spoil her mystique, as odd as that may sound.

Now, Christina Hendricks (Saffron), on the other hand...

Respectfully,

zoid
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- Senator Richard 'Book' Wilkins, Independent Congress
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Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:19 PM

STATIC

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:

Now, Christina Hendricks (Saffron), on the other hand...

Yeah, but if we saw HER topless, I'd have to get a bigger TV.

YIKES!

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Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:51 PM

ZOID

Static wrote:

"Yeah, but if we saw HER topless, I'd have to get a bigger TV."

Money well spent. The final confrontation between her and Mal in OMR, when he's got her pinned on her back beneath him (ulp!), and then she starts to undulate her hips while being all cleavage-like...

I about had an aneurysm.

As for the rest of the female cast, while I appreciate feminine pulchritude as much or more than the next guy, I just can't imagine ruining the images of Kaylee's innocent smile, Inara's porcelain-doll face, River's dancer's grace (her feet for God's sake!), or Zoe's voluptuous sensuality with anything so crass as disrobing them.

If they're filming and a robe or towel or something slips a little, I'd say leave it in. But full-on frontal? That'd be a sad day for me. Part of what Joss does so well is to have made all these women so real that I prefer the hope of seeing them bare, to the reality of seeing them bare.

Saffron is a different case altogether. In like manner to Jennifer Connelly of "Inventing the Abbotts", "The Hot Spot", et al, I think the world would be a better place if we could just get Ms. Hendricks as naked as possible, as often as possible...

Yikes, indeed.

Respectfully, (if reprehensibly)

zoid
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"River? I thought she was a sweet girl. Of course, we were all sure she was crazy, too."

- Inara Reynolds, Secretary of Ecumenical Affairs
from A Child Shall Lead Them: A History of the Second War of Independence, Wilkins, Richard

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Monday, April 12, 2004 3:35 AM

SOULOFSERENITY

The Man They Call Soul...

Zoid, I gotta throw this in, but that is an awesome tagline, dude!

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Monday, April 12, 2004 4:15 AM

KOIPOND

a word about the SciFi channel
Many of it's "orginal" movie are actually series pilots that may or may not be picked up. how pilots work for most networks is that once a pilot is commissioned and finnished, it is shown to a test audience. based on the test audience's responses and/or the execs feelings the series gets made or is shelfed. the money poured into the pilot is consider lost if the series is shelfed and the network moves on. the SciFi channel shows it's unused pilots as "movies" to recup some of the costs that went into making them.

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Monday, April 12, 2004 5:19 AM

CHULOGORDITO

Sci-Fi channel has 'broadened out'...pffft.

They've gone the way that the AMC channel did. AMC used to show decent old movies, and now? Conan the Destroyer was on the other night, and with commercials for god's sake.

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Monday, April 12, 2004 5:39 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

I would not be surprised to see Sci Fi run Firefly prior to the movie coming out.

Think about it. Universal owns Sci Fi Channel. Universal wanted Joss to write the script in such a manner as to act as a "springboard" for a series. A series of course is reliant on a successful movie showing. So, Universal airs Firefly, say starting a month, before the movie premieres. This fires up the already existing fanbase, gets the uninitiated interested, and expands the fanbase, plus they could run movie trailers during commercial breaks in the show.

If I was a exec at Universal, this is how I would play it. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Monday, April 12, 2004 7:00 AM

JGSUGDEN

Realities.

All TV is going to tend towards 'cheap' shows like 1/2 hour sitcoms, animated shows and reality tv. You can see it on Scifi.

The only way to get back quality drama/scifi is to cut the costs *way* down. That involves actors taking pay cuts, reduced special effect budgets, etc ...

For Firefly to get picked up ... anywhere ... after the movie, it will need to cut costs dramatically. On top of that, it will have to be a mediocre success. If it is too successfuly, they'll hold onto it to make more movies. If it is not successful enough, it won't have enough support to consider a series. Our only hope for a return as a series is for it to do medium well, find ways to cut costs and then find a network that has just had a bunch of shows crash (ie; the WB after next season when a lot of its long time dramas (Charmed, etc ...) will be leaving the air).

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Monday, April 12, 2004 7:10 AM

GATOZHIAN

This is kinda off topic, but people we REALLY don't want Firefly on Showtime. They are worse than Fox about abandoning genre programming. That is unless they finished up Jeremiah and Odyssey 5 while I wasnt paying attention. And didn't Stargate SG-1 come from there as well? But it's all good, Soul Food had 5 seasons after all.

But seriously, USA or Sci-fi is really our only hope. If Serenity scores big at the box office 'Versal will come up with the cash for the show to air, even on Sci-Fi.

Right now our effeorts shouldn't even be on the TV revival at this time. First, lets worry about making The Big Damn Movie the hit it deserves to be! If it does well, the TV revival will work its self out.

How can Tru Calling still be going when Wonderfalls is gone? There is no justice in the world!

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Monday, April 12, 2004 12:47 PM

LEAFY

If Firefly ends up on cable, I'll just have to wait for the DVD's. (sigh) Oh, well, it is worth waiting for.

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Monday, April 12, 2004 5:05 PM

PBI

Whatever happens, I hope and pray that Firfefly gets picked up by something I can get. Not all FF fans live in the US and/or can get Sci-Fi or USA network.

That's one reason I voted for it to go back to network TV. Cable might be a bit better, in terms of the freedom the show might have, but I'd most likely never see the show. It's true that Space is running the series front to back over and over (yay!) and in order (gasp!), but I doubt they'd have the money to purchase all the eps. We got B5 up here until it went to TNN (couldn't get TNN at that point) and had to settle for the "best" 90 eps when Space got the rights here.

So, as one devoted fan, who STILL shakes his head whenever he finishes watching a FF ep in wonder at why such a quality show is cancelled and the crap stays, getting FF back out to the most folks is what I'd like to see.

As long as it doesn't turn FF into a pale imitation, like the reincarnation of WKRP.

If you can survive death, you can probably survive almost anything.

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Monday, April 12, 2004 6:44 PM

LEGOMANIAC

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...When TNN changed to Spike TV, I went to their website and emphatically begged them to pick up Firefly, but did they? Noooooo..

I have an idea. If any of you people have been watching Spike TV latly just pay attention to their programming, it mixes all sorts of genres like Sci-Fi (Star Trek the Next Generation) with stuff that is completley origanal (The ultimatly cool and hilarious MXC). Firefly would be a wonderful add to their network and it would get a vast majority of people hooked to the show, with their succsess already with mixing such genres the show would probably slip in with no hitch, especialy when people saw the episode, Our Mrs. Renolds, hehe.
So basicaly what I am saying is that we should get as many people we know to get hooked on the show and start to flood the mail box at Spike with nothing about e-mails that urge them to pick up the show. Who knows if the rights that Fox has drop after the making of the movie and for some meracules reason comes onto Spike we could have our Firefly back. And don't forget to keep sending fanmail to Joss, the more the mail the closer to getting back Firefly!!!

Oh yeah, The theme song is AWESOME!

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