SciFiWire Lists 50 SciFi Films of All Time by Sniper

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SciFiWire Lists 50 SciFi Films of All Time

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UPDATED: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 05:21
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Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:12 AM

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Originally posted by irishwash:
ok, cant agree with some of the movies on this list, not goin to go into it, justgona mention a few that should be there,
serenity[ ofcourse]
pitch black[ best sci-fi horror since alien]
event horizon[ great under estimated movie]
dog soldiers[ brilliant british horror movie]

irishwash

Yeah, I was just wondering if someone was going to mention Pitch Black, which was my favourite "new" scifi movie until I stumbled (almost literally) on Serenity.

It has its flaws but man! it's got some moments in it!

Better than some of the movies that did make it, for reasons most people have already covered.

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Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:10 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:

I'm mostly happy that nobody has brought up Starship Troopers.

That was a movie with a heavy comment on militaristic yahooism that sadly seems to be more relevant than ever...

Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:54 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
I'm mostly happy that nobody has brought up Starship Troopers.

That was a movie with a heavy comment on militaristic yahooism that sadly seems to be more relevant than ever...

I disagree...it was a movie with a heavy comment on Denise Richards' rack.

Also, disagree on the V'ger thing from STTMP....we know that this Voyager probe was damaged, disappeared into a black hole, and then landed on a machine planet. The machines there restored Voyager plus gave it an amazing amount of new technology (including 10th power energy) to fulfill its' mission....gather knowledge & learn all that can be learned.. BUT here's the rub...neither the great, awesome machines on that planet, or the great awesome V'ger itself didn't have the common sense, or scintilla of intelligence to clean off the nameplate on the probe which was a bit scarred & dirty...to reveal the name Voyager....no...they both left it as it appeared with the letters obscurred by dirt and it became V'ger (until Kirk wiped it clean)....pretty sad.

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Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:30 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
neither the great, awesome machines on that planet, or the great awesome V'ger itself didn't have the common sense, or scintilla of intelligence to clean off the nameplate on the probe which was a bit scarred & dirty...to reveal the name Voyager....no...they both left it as it appeared with the letters obscurred by dirt and it became V'ger (until Kirk wiped it clean)....pretty sad.

A non-issue raised by an obvious non-fan of the movie.
It is dismissed.

Next. Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:39 AM

KAYNA

I love my captain

Thank you Chrisisall. When I was talking about wonder at the idea of V'ger it had nothing to do with the name. It was all about the idea. Something we created and sent to explore where we sould not yet go just kept going. It conitnued to do what it had been made to do long after we forgot about it and eventually returned as something more than it had been.

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Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

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Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:53 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
neither the great, awesome machines on that planet, or the great awesome V'ger itself didn't have the common sense, or scintilla of intelligence to clean off the nameplate on the probe which was a bit scarred & dirty...to reveal the name Voyager....no...they both left it as it appeared with the letters obscurred by dirt and it became V'ger (until Kirk wiped it clean)....pretty sad.
A non-issue raised by an obvious non-fan of the movie.
It is dismissed.

Spin it all you want Chrissy, but you know that I'm right...so were the 4000 sci-fi reviews at the time that said the movie sucked, in fact it sucked so much that they scrapped every element of it when they continued the franchise in Wrath of Khan...and for the record, I was watching and enjoying Star Trek when you were still spitting up your Gerber's carrots and peas all over yourself.

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Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:09 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
and for the record, I was watching and enjoying Star Trek when you were still spitting up your Gerber's carrots and peas all over yourself.

1) TMP had a distinct lack of physical violence and phaser usage, hence the 'boring' tag many hung on it. So it seems many need an 'enemy to kill' to be happy. Sorry- some of us groove on character, story and science....
2) Why you little pipsqueek, I was there for the first season broadcast in '66, and I liked it better than Jeannie or Lost In Space!!!!

Not as old as he used to beisall

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Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:35 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
and for the record, I was watching and enjoying Star Trek when you were still spitting up your Gerber's carrots and peas all over yourself.

1) TMP had a distinct lack of physical violence and phaser usage, hence the 'boring' tag many hung on it. So it seems many need an 'enemy to kill' to be happy. Sorry- some of us groove on character, story and science....
2) Why you little pipsqueek, I was there for the first season broadcast in '66, and I liked it better than Jeannie or Lost In Space!!!!

Pipsqueek...great word!, haven't heard that one in a few decades. Do you think former WWF manager Freddie Blassie's "Pencil-Necked Geek" had its' origins with pipsqueek? Anyway, it's pointless to argue the merits, or lack of, about this movie. There's a lot about it I do like....
Lt. Ilia
Bones' beard
Spock on Vulcan
The Dekker-Ilia new life creation

So fair to say we have a general disagreement about the totality of it....not the first time & won't be the last...but you should never simply dismiss my observations, because one might not always be groovin' along with you on all things.

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Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:48 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
but you should never simply dismiss my observations, because one might not always be groovin' along with you on all things.

I only dismissed the one observation that the name plate had any significance to the overall plot...so the machine planet's peeps decided not to clean off the carbon scoring...so what?
Your observations in general are quite worth considering.

The-older-than-you Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:04 PM

THOLO

I contacted AFI and asked them why is Serenity not on the list and here is their reply.

Thank you for your interest in the American Film Institute and thank you for watching AFI’s 100 Years…100 Movies – 10th Anniversary Edition. We appreciate and value your opinion. Let us explain the process.

AFI distributes a ballot with 400 nominated films to a jury over 1,500 leaders from the creative community, including film artists (directors, screenwriters, actors, editors, cinematographers), critics and historians. Due to the extensive number of movies jurors may also write in votes for up to five films that may not already appear on the ballot. Since film is a subjective medium, there will always be debate about the selected films.

The jurors have been asked to consider the following criteria in making their selections:

FEATURE-LENGTH FICTION FILM

Narrative format, typically over 60 minutes in length.

AMERICAN FILM

Motion picture with significant creative and/or production elements from the United States.

CRITICAL RECOGNITION

Formal commendation in print, television and digital media.

MAJOR AWARD WINNER

Recognition from competitive events including awards from peer groups, critics, guilds and major film festivals.

POPULARITY OVER TIME

Including success at the box office, television and cable airings, and DVD/VHS sales and rentals.

HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE

A film's mark on the history of the moving image through visionary narrative devices, technical innovation, or other groundbreaking

achievements.

CULTURAL IMPACT

A film's mark on American society in matters of style and substance.

We hope this gives you some insight into the care taken in the process. We appreciate you writing to us on behalf of this wonderful films that unfortunately did not make it onto the list.

AFI does offer many exclusive benefits through membership, such as unlimited access to the online AFI Catalog of Feature Films, invitations to AFI events and special screenings, film-related magazine subscriptions.

Please visit AFI.com to learn more about the valuable and exciting benefits of membership with AFI!

Thank you for your interest in AFI.

Best Regards,

Keep Flying!!

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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:21 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

1,500 leaders in the creative world picked Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome??? What, they needed Tina Turner as their token minority for the list?

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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 3:12 AM

STRANGEBIRD

My faith in mankind is now official shattered. How could that many people be so completely ignorant? Obviously a few knew what they were doing or we wouldn't have gotten to few worthy films we did. It's not just what they didn't include though but what horrible films they did, some of which aren't really Scifi. I agree with most points already made to this so I won't repeat them.

Just goes to show that what people think and what people know are two entirely different things. Apparently these folks weren't sure on it. Also I think what killed Serenity was the fact it just did ok in the Box Office and that the seemingly general opinion among filmmakers and such is that it tanked. The fact it's probably sold more DVD copies than half the films on the list obviously doesn't matter.

Also I find it amusing that they turn the email into an attempt to get you to sign up. Sure.

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"When you can't do something smart, do something right." -Jayne quoting Book

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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 4:01 AM

THOLO

I suggest we write them and see if they will give Serenity a second look??

http://www.afi.com

I think that is the url, I just googled afi and went to the website.

Keep Flying!!

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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 5:21 AM

CANTTAKESKY

In case people want the link:

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=3&id=48610

Here is the email you can send your picks to:
scifiwire@scifi.com

Here is my list:

1. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial
2. The Matrix
3. Terminator
4. Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan
5. Total Recall
6. Serenity
7. Star Wars: Episode VI--Return of the Jedi
8. Independence Day
9. Back to the Future
10. Metropolis

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