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Are there enough 'Science Fiction' style motifs within FIREFLY?
Sunday, May 2, 2010 1:53 AM
THESOMNAMBULIST
Sunday, May 2, 2010 4:00 AM
NAVYSEILS
Sunday, May 2, 2010 4:43 AM
Sunday, May 2, 2010 4:48 AM
AURAPTOR
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Sunday, May 2, 2010 8:03 AM
TWO
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Maybe Joss could have started with showing more Alliance space vessels, like the Dortmunder. ...in Firefly, not anything that jumped right out and WOWED the audience.
Sunday, May 2, 2010 8:52 AM
PIRATENEWS
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Sunday, May 2, 2010 9:11 AM
DEWRASTLER
Sunday, May 2, 2010 9:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Dewrastler: The show actually pokes fun at itself with this issue. Wash: Psychic? Sounds like something out of science fiction. Zoë: We live on a spaceship, dear. Wash: So?
Sunday, May 2, 2010 11:47 AM
LWAVES
Sunday, May 2, 2010 6:26 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Sunday, May 2, 2010 8:04 PM
SHINYGOODGUY
Sunday, May 2, 2010 11:52 PM
IMNOTHERE
Quote:Originally posted by two: Quote:That's why crime shows have gunfire, explosions, or ghastly corpses rotting on the coroner's examining table, all in the first five minutes. A scifi show needs spaceships upfront or the audience switches channels to CSI.
Quote:That's why crime shows have gunfire, explosions, or ghastly corpses rotting on the coroner's examining table, all in the first five minutes. A scifi show needs spaceships upfront or the audience switches channels to CSI.
Monday, May 3, 2010 3:12 AM
Monday, May 3, 2010 5:21 AM
ZEEK
Monday, May 3, 2010 10:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Zeek: Um...last I checked we don't have ships with artificial gravity in space. Done and done.
Monday, May 3, 2010 10:40 AM
Monday, May 3, 2010 10:49 AM
Quote:I do have to disagree heavily that we currently have spaceships. Oh no, no. We have rockets and vehicles that travel through space in a basic point in the right direction and fire type way. But we don't really have the ability to go where we want, when we want. Although technically I suppose the description of spaceship does fit, but to me there is a vast difference between our current offering and what I'd class as a true spaceship.
Monday, May 3, 2010 11:05 AM
Quote:Well, for me, strictly on the Pilot Episode, there is the planets that were living on the rim and those core planets. Now that may have tipped me off. Why was the war being fought? Because some didn't want to live under the rule of the core planets. Imagine the fate of all planets being controlled by a few modern-looking planets. So, planets is a hint that it's sci-fi. People, like ourselves living on other planets. Much like we have today (NOT!).
Quote:That 500 years in the future thing would be another hint. I immediately think of Star Wars and Blade Runner (in regards to future world as opposed to today world, usually that means sci-fi to me). Perhaps what threw your friend for a loop was the horses riding up to Serenity. I could see, for the uninitiated, where that would confuse a person. The floating spacestation with the military personnel in it, may have been another clue.
Quote:The whole "fuel the ship" thing when they landed on Persphone - sci-fi. "Change course, go for hard-burn. We're running," sounds sci-fyee to me. As others have mentioned, the newsflash that was on a "piece" of paper with video on it that came over the cortex. That's something you don't see everyday. The "crybaby" although a subtle suggestion by Joss & Co. (which I liked very much BTW, too many times the audience is not allowed to think for themselves in American television. He never tells us that the "crybaby" is a decoy. We're allowed to figure it out on our own through visuals and some dialogue); definitely suggests sci-fi.
Quote:People definitely became comfortable with light-speed, Warp drive and transporter rooms and they identify those things with the neat and tidy world of sci-fi.
Quote:I could see another reason why Firefly was ahead of it's time back in 2002. Folk were just not ready to accept this new concept of what life could possibly look like in 500 years. They much prefer what's comfortable and familiar than allow themselves to think that we may well regress to a time where life was much more simpler- the old west - than what we have now. Sci-fi, for many folk, is gleaming cities in the sky with shiny spaceships and futuristic looking gadgets. But even in Star Wars you could find some familiar territory linking us to the past. The light saber, a jedi's weapon of choice, is a samurai or knight's sword. Queen Amidala, Lord Vader, Old Republic, Jedi Knights these all suggest a kind of honoring of the past with a nod toward the future. It is as much a part of sci-fi as robots and dilithium crystals. Now, we include horses and six-shooters.
Monday, May 3, 2010 12:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by TheSomnambulist: Hardly a riveting device to lure in viewers though: *In 40's style voice over:* "Firefly it has Spaceships with artificial gravity! People of tomorrow dressed as people of yesterday! and a hot crazy girl with a special relationship with her brother!" All this and more on Firefly...!
Monday, May 3, 2010 2:14 PM
Quote:But the small amount of exploration we have done in space has softened the effect to a certian extent of how sci-fi is presented to us. These things are little more common place now. Shouldn't sci-fi be going that little bit further everytime? Isn't that what sci fi is? At some point our present catches up with sci-fi concepts of yesteryear.
Tuesday, May 4, 2010 8:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by beatupplenty: Then in the 1960's and 70's the definition changed to "the good old stuff"-"adventure stories set in space".
Tuesday, May 4, 2010 11:46 AM
Wednesday, May 5, 2010 8:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Shinygoodguy: That 500 years in the future thing would be another hint. I immediately think of Star Wars ... SGG Tawabawho?
Wednesday, May 5, 2010 8:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by TheSomnambulist: You see Apollo 13 is a solid adventure story set in space but is it science fiction? It's based on actual events so it's just regular fiction.
Wednesday, May 5, 2010 10:29 PM
Thursday, May 6, 2010 5:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by jewelstaitefan: Apollo 13 is fiction??? Which part?
Thursday, May 6, 2010 10:21 PM
Thursday, May 6, 2010 11:16 PM
Thursday, May 6, 2010 11:20 PM
Quote:If it makes a good movie, its fiction (I hate the idea of shows billed as "drama/documentaries": if its drama, its been dramatized its not a documentary!)
Friday, May 7, 2010 8:04 AM
Monday, May 31, 2010 2:12 AM
CYBERJESTER
Quote:Originally posted by TheSomnambulist: Indeed but it's semantics. We are in space and float about on space type ships so her point still stands, and lets face it the worlds we explore on Firefly still feel pretty familiar. So that aspect of Firefly hardly pushes the boundaries... (not that it needs to) But ultimtaley to us it doesn't really matter because it's a fresh interpretation of the future and a deliberate one from Joss and Co. And maybe it was more me at fault with how I pitched to her. Because in my mind I regard Firefly as a Sci- fi show... But maybe I was wrong to do that.
Monday, May 31, 2010 8:28 AM
Monday, May 31, 2010 1:29 PM
ASORTAFAIRYTALE
Monday, May 31, 2010 7:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: There's no radiation nor gravity in space, with 1-million miles per gallon of gas.
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