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The Dark Knight Rises - July 20, 2012

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:30 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Before I completely geek out, I have to share hot off the presses that Christopher Nolan is ready to launch into the Dark Knight Rises or Batman 3 - But no Riddler.

He has stated that most definitely there will be no Riddler. What villian could he possibly be thinking of?

Could it be the Mad Hatter? Can't be Catwoman because he's chosen Tom Hardy to star as the next villian. This is gonna be interesting.

http://www.movienewz.com/the-dark-knight-rises/

Set your calendars fellow Browncoats, this is gonna be good.


SGG


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Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:56 AM

STORYMARK


I wouldn't rule out Catwoman entirely. He hasn't said who Hardy would play, and there have been multiple villains in the prior two films. They havn't even said for sure that Hardy will be a villain. He could just as well be the new DA.

And they are currently casting a large female role. Could be Catwoman, could be someone else entirely (I think Talia Al Ghul is a likely candidate). The Batman-On-Film site, which has gotten most of the early casting scoops since Begins was in pre-production, says that Catwoman is likely, but not locked. We shall see.
As to other villains (as I doubt Catwoman would be the only one even if she does appear), I would expect someone like Black Mask, Bane or Hush - all guys that have a symbolic parallel with Bruce/Batman, and can be easily tied to the mob, which I expect to co0ntinue to be a heavy influence.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:56 AM

ZEEK


Why does catwoman need to be female? Maybe batman will come out of the...cave in the next movie. Now that would get some press.

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:13 AM

BYTEMITE


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Names ("Catman") - and costumes, really - would be too similar. Generally you avoid confusing the audience about two major characters.

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:45 AM

CHRISISALL


Whatever, just please tell me that Gyllanhall chick won't be in it...


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Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:54 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Whatever, just please tell me that Gyllanhall chick won't be in it...


That's pretty much a given since she was "blowed up real good" in TDK.


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Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:56 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Names ("Catman") - and costumes, really - would be too similar. Generally you avoid confusing the audience about two major characters.
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I'm with you Bytemite, "Catman" just sounds wrong.


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Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:56 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:


That's pretty much a given since she was "blowed up real good" in TDK.


Just no 'sister' or 'not really dead' stuff.
Really.
I won't even look at it if she's in it.
I'd own TDK, except, well, SHE'S in it!!!

Did I mention I can't stand her?


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Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:58 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
I wouldn't rule out Catwoman entirely. He hasn't said who Hardy would play, and there have been multiple villains in the prior two films. They havn't even said for sure that Hardy will be a villain. He could just as well be the new DA.

And they are currently casting a large female role. Could be Catwoman, could be someone else entirely (I think Talia Al Ghul is a likely candidate). The Batman-On-Film site, which has gotten most of the early casting scoops since Begins was in pre-production, says that Catwoman is likely, but not locked. We shall see.
As to other villains (as I doubt Catwoman would be the only one even if she does appear), I would expect someone like Black Mask, Bane or Hush - all guys that have a symbolic parallel with Bruce/Batman, and can be easily tied to the mob, which I expect to co0ntinue to be a heavy influence.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."



Yeah, can't rule anything out with Nolan at the helm.


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Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:10 PM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:


That's pretty much a given since she was "blowed up real good" in TDK.


Just no 'sister' or 'not really dead' stuff.
Really.
I won't even look at it if she's in it.
I'd own TDK, except, well, SHE'S in it!!!

Did I mention I can't stand her?


What's so wrong with her? Other than her face looking like she was repeatedly dropped as a child? The rest of her is decent at least. Still no Katie Holmes but what can ya do? She kinda married a psychotic who wouldn't let her work on good movies anymore.

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:18 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
She kinda married a psychotic

I prefer the term 'eccentric.'
Or 'nut.'

I feel like 'psychotic' is a clinical observation none of us here is trained to make.


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Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:19 PM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:


Yeah, can't rule anything out with Nolan at the helm.





Except for Robin.

Personally, I think that's a good thing, though I suspect people will roast me for that.

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:20 PM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:


That's pretty much a given since she was "blowed up real good" in TDK.


Just no 'sister' or 'not really dead' stuff.
Really.
I won't even look at it if she's in it.
I'd own TDK, except, well, SHE'S in it!!!

Did I mention I can't stand her?


What's so wrong with her? Other than her face looking like she was repeatedly dropped as a child? The rest of her is decent at least. Still no Katie Holmes but what can ya do? She kinda married a psychotic who wouldn't let her work on good movies anymore.



Well, for one, back when she was in the Spiderman movies she said that Spiderman ought to be killed off in Spiderman 3. She pissed off a lot of fans that time, and it's a bad idea anyway. The impression is either she's a little bit y'know for even suggesting that, or she doesn't really like all of these superhero movies and the geek culture around them despite how well it's paid off for her and is just going through the motions.

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:34 PM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
She kinda married a psychotic

I prefer the term 'eccentric.'
Or 'nut.'

I feel like 'psychotic' is a clinical observation none of us here is trained to make.


I took abnormal psych. I'm an expert I tells ya!

Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
Well, for one, back when she was in the Spiderman movies she said that Spiderman ought to be killed off in Spiderman 3. She pissed off a lot of fans that time, and it's a bad idea anyway. The impression is either she's a little bit y'know for even suggesting that, or she doesn't really like all of these superhero movies and the geek culture around them despite how well it's paid off for her and is just going through the motions.


Wait I thought we were talking about the actress who played Rachel in Dark Knight. It sounds like you're talking about Kirsten Dunst. Who are we talking about?

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:38 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:


That's pretty much a given since she was "blowed up real good" in TDK.


Just no 'sister' or 'not really dead' stuff.
Really.
I won't even look at it if she's in it.
I'd own TDK, except, well, SHE'S in it!!!

Did I mention I can't stand her?


What's so wrong with her? Other than her face looking like she was repeatedly dropped as a child? The rest of her is decent at least. Still no Katie Holmes but what can ya do? She kinda married a psychotic who wouldn't let her work on good movies anymore.




If it were a bikini carwash movie, I'd certainly take Holmes. But in a serious drama, I prefer acting ability to looks myself. And I don't think Gyllenhaal is THAT bad looking anyway.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:39 PM

BYTEMITE


Whoops, I thought they were the same. Sorry, I'm not very good with actors and actresses.

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:40 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:


That's pretty much a given since she was "blowed up real good" in TDK.


Just no 'sister' or 'not really dead' stuff.
Really.
I won't even look at it if she's in it.
I'd own TDK, except, well, SHE'S in it!!!

Did I mention I can't stand her?


What's so wrong with her? Other than her face looking like she was repeatedly dropped as a child? The rest of her is decent at least. Still no Katie Holmes but what can ya do? She kinda married a psychotic who wouldn't let her work on good movies anymore.



Well, for one, back when she was in the Spiderman movies she said that Spiderman ought to be killed off in Spiderman 3. She pissed off a lot of fans that time, and it's a bad idea anyway. The impression is either she's a little bit y'know for even suggesting that, or she doesn't really like all of these superhero movies and the geek culture around them despite how well it's paid off for her and is just going through the motions.



Uh.... wtf are you talking about? Neither woman was in any Spidey movie.

Oh, nevermind, someone else got to it.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:41 PM

BYTEMITE


Yeah, I saw redhead in The Dark Knight and assumed Dunst, then forgot her name.

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:17 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Just no 'sister' or 'not really dead' stuff.
Really.
I won't even look at it if she's in it.
I'd own TDK, except, well, SHE'S in it!!!

Did I mention I can't stand her?
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Agreed. But I think that Nolan is one of those rare producer/director types that has creative control of his movies; and I can pretty safely say that he doesn't go that route (sister, not really dead). There doesn't seem to be a great demand for her presence in the Batman series overall.


SGG

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:23 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:


That's pretty much a given since she was "blowed up real good" in TDK.


Just no 'sister' or 'not really dead' stuff.
Really.
I won't even look at it if she's in it.
I'd own TDK, except, well, SHE'S in it!!!

Did I mention I can't stand her?


What's so wrong with her? Other than her face looking like she was repeatedly dropped as a child? The rest of her is decent at least. Still no Katie Holmes but what can ya do? She kinda married a psychotic who wouldn't let her work on good movies anymore.



Yeah, Tom doesn't like to be overshadowed. Katie, despite what people might think is a decent enough actress (I love Pieces of April, great ensemble cast) and she deserves better.

Raise your hand if you think the whirlwind romance and marriage was scripted, staged and executed with puppetmaster TC at the helm.


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Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:36 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
Quote:

Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:


Yeah, can't rule anything out with Nolan at the helm.





Except for Robin.

Personally, I think that's a good thing, though I suspect people will roast me for that.



Real Batfans know that the Dark Knight started out solo. Robin was introduced a year later.


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