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NEW SERIES PLEASE! ! UNIVERSAL NO THANKS!

POSTED BY: HOWARD
UPDATED: Monday, October 10, 2005 20:27
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Monday, October 10, 2005 10:52 AM

HOWARD


I very much want a new season of FIREFLY but the last people in the world I want to hold it in ownership is UNIVERSAL. Although Blu-Ray should help matters UNIVERSAL is the single worst DVD label of any major studio and diabolical when it comes to TV box sets. They have ruined everything from NORTHERN EXPOSURE to MIAMI VICE with their terrible quality DVD sets. The other studios can do TV box sets well why can't they? But alas their movie DVD's have never been that good. The sound and picture authoring on UNIVERSAL DVD's has always been mediocre at best.


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Monday, October 10, 2005 12:03 PM

RAYSTON


Just curious, whats wrong with the Northern Exposure DVD's? ( I Dont own them but planned on buying them eventually)

Thanx

Rayston

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Monday, October 10, 2005 12:27 PM

GHOLA


You'd pass up a new series just because you think Universal will make bad DVDs? I'd be thrilled to have any new Firefly, at this point DVD box sets don't even enter into the equation. Of course looking at the box office numbers it looks like this is all a mute point anyway.



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Monday, October 10, 2005 12:40 PM

DRAKERELOADED


Hell yes, I'm with you on this one. A new Firefly of any type is best. Who cares about the dvd's. Worry about that later... We need the new series started first!

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Monday, October 10, 2005 12:58 PM

HOWARD


DVD is the format that works of all kinds
live on. Furthermore in today's market there
is a global market into which direct to DVD
can be launched. The existing FIREFLY set is
superb with true 24 frame Progressive Scan
playback for those of us who use component and
have LCD projectors etc. Quality matters it is
not something to think about later. If it is
not designed for high quality DVD playback
from the get-go that quality will NEVER be
there.

As for UNIVERSAL box sets such as Northern
Exposure, the discs are double-sided, poorly
identified, poor mastering, lousy packaging
and episodes missing.



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Monday, October 10, 2005 1:27 PM

ROCKETJOCK


There's an old saying about beggars and choosers, my friends.

"She's tore up plenty. But she'll fly true." -- Zoë Washburn

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Monday, October 10, 2005 1:54 PM

HOWARD




I am not a beggar. Consumers pay good
money for quality product. That is what
we should get. If not I do not buy again
from those who put out second rate quality.

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Monday, October 10, 2005 2:38 PM

PROTEON


Here's how they ruined NORTHERN EXPOSURE:

Season Two - they literally removed some of the original background music and replaced it with what they thought was more contemporary. If you were a fan of that show you know how integral the unusual music was; KBHR and all. Anyway it's ruined essentially even though the show is still good.

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Monday, October 10, 2005 7:24 PM

ROCKETJOCK


Sigh. I didn't mean to denegrate any consumer's right to a quality product.

But--this product ain't even out there yet! Past track record or not, it seems a little bit precipitous to criticize them for errors they've yet to make.

If I'm overreacting, it's because a lot of folk on this site over the last few days have been extremely unapreciative of the good service Universal has given Serenity to date, prefering to dwell on perceived marketing errors. Maybe it's an overreaction to how badly we've all been "foxed" in the past.

I submit my humble opinion. Had Universal broadcast Firefly instead of Fox, it would still be on televison. On the Sci-Fi channel maybe, but it'd still be on.

And we'd have two or three seasons worth of box sets for everyone to gripe about the quality of.

"She's tore up plenty. But she'll fly true." -- Zoë Washburn

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Monday, October 10, 2005 7:51 PM

DEADDUCK


You know, I would buy the movie or series if it was on vhs. What made the series enjoyable was the witty banter amongst actors who were the crew of serenity. The firefly universe, to me at least, is a kind of art that surpasses the medium upon which it is displayed and touches the soul.

On a final note, I'm grateful to Universal and everyone else involved that this movie was made.

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Monday, October 10, 2005 8:14 PM

SPOOKYJESUS



Even if there was a new TV series (which there isn't and probably never will be) Universal wouldn't have anything to do with it - Fox still has control of the TV rights.

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Monday, October 10, 2005 8:27 PM

HJERMSTED


Quote:

Originally posted by Proteon:
Here's how they ruined NORTHERN EXPOSURE:

Season Two - they literally removed some of the original background music and replaced it with what they thought was more contemporary. If you were a fan of that show you know how integral the unusual music was; KBHR and all. Anyway it's ruined essentially even though the show is still good.



Are you certain the original music wasn't removed due to legal/financial considerations?

On older shows the music royalties have not been negotiated for the DVD contracts. When the bands are re-approached about their music being used again for the DVD set... their prices suddenly go up (particularly the prices of the now forgotten one hit wonder bands that may have participated). All it takes is one series composer or a half dozen bands jacking up their rates to make a DVD box set financially unfeasible (or priced out of most consumers' range).

This also happens between markets. For example, the British sitcom "Spaced" (great show, btw) will not be released in the U.S. because the creators refuse to change a single song that they painstakingly chose and worked into the two seasons that show ran. The creators had the rights to the music for Britain and Europe but not for the States. When they went to put together a box set for release stateside, paying for those songs again became too expensive to consider.

Northern Exposure was off the air before the DVD TV box set revolution came about. If the music has been changed I doubt it has much at all to do with what's contemporary. Probably just stupid artists listening to their agents and finding their music priced right off of the box set entirely.

mattro

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