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Happy with Last Night's awards?

POSTED BY: GWENHARKER
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Monday, February 28, 2005 1:44 AM

GWENHARKER


From the way it was going earlier in the night, it looked like the Aviator was going to take home everything. Color me surprised for Clint, Jamie, and MDB for winning.

Chris Rock was thankfully not as politcal as the people on the radio hyped although no offence, I felt that the whole race card was played a little too much.

Great job for speeding up the smaller awards, good stuff there. I did think it was funny that for visual effects, the Spiderman guys gave their thanks for there not being a fourth LotR.

I did think that Harry Potter should've won for best score because I think that was some of John William's best work in awhile (you know how everything of his begins to sound alike, especially on the last two soundtracks) because the Harry Potter Soundtrack was just... amazing in my opinion.

And what was with the Aviator winning best costumes? I was completely lost there.


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Monday, February 28, 2005 4:30 AM

MAUGWAI


Quote:

Originally posted by GwenHarker:

And what was with the Aviator winning best costumes? I was completely lost there.




If you look at the history it makes sense. It's a movie that deals a lot with Old Hollywood, something New Hollywood loves to look at, and in the past couple of decades only one non-period piece has won best costumes - Priscilla Queen of the Desert.



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Monday, February 28, 2005 5:14 AM

EMBERS


Quote:

Originally posted by GwenHarker:
I did think that Harry Potter should've won for


I was shocked that Harry Potter was nominated for so few things...and didn't win at all.

Chris Rock was boring
Beyonce was terrible AND boring
(if she had been just a little worse it would have been more entertaining)
the whole evening was a huge yawn....

I hated the business of 'speeding things up'
with the line up onstage.
and I REALLY hated the Price is Right style
of giving awards out in the aisles!

The whole thing really couldn't have been duller.

But I did discover that over on WE (Women's Entertainment cable channel)
they had Sandra Bernhardt and some gay Black guy dissing the show during the ads
THAT was entertaining!

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Monday, February 28, 2005 5:29 AM

STEVETHEPIRATE


I was glad Eternal Sunshine won best original screenplay - a bit perterbed it didn't get more nominations, though. Highly underrated flick, if ya ask me.

Felt like throwing something at Sean Penn for lashing out at Chris Rock for his Jude Law joke. Penn remembers he was Spicoli, right?

Also felt like throwing something at the Academy for choosing Prince ... d'ya hear that, PRINCE ... to award best song - when half the nomiations had foreign language titles. Actually, kudos to the Academy for that - revealed Prince's 2nd grade reading level. Fantastic.

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Monday, February 28, 2005 5:36 AM

KAYLEE4SIMON


Loved the outcome of the big awards. I am glad Ray didn't win because in my opinion Million Dollar Baby was a better movie.

Keep shiny!

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Monday, February 28, 2005 5:40 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL


Quote:

Originally posted by maugwai:
...and in the past couple of decades only one non-period piece has won best costumes - Priscilla Queen of the Desert.



Priscilla really deserved the award. That is a great movie.

I'm in agreement with most folks here, the show was less than stellar. Beyonce should not have been singing those songs. The aisle thing was weird. I haven't seen MDB yet, but I expected the Academy to vote for Eastwood. Jamie was a surprise and it makes sense when you factor in Cate's win. They were definitely celebrating memories last night: Those that are no longer with us and those that have been around a while.


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Monday, February 28, 2005 6:30 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


I didn’t watch it.

I’m glad to hear that Million Dollar Baby won though. I didn’t care for it much, but I’ll concede that it was a good movie (what I saw of it) and probably worth the award. I really only watched less then half of it, so I’m guessing.

I never saw the Aviator. Mostly because it had DiCaprio in it, but people have told me that was a good one too. In fact, I don’t know that I actually saw any of the movies that were being nominated, with the exception of Lemony Snicket.

Renee Zellweger, I don’t think she won anything this time around, but I loved her in Cold Mountain.

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Monday, February 28, 2005 6:41 AM

KNIBBLET


Quote:

GwenHarker wrote:
Great job for speeding up the smaller awards, good stuff there...


What annoys me about the Academy Awards is that they've become a 'suck the ass of overpayed stars' party and they ignore the technical awards.

THE ACADEMY AWARDS STARTED OFF AS TECHNICAL AWARDS!

Way back when in 1927, the people who really make movies feared that all of the attention - and all the money - would end up in the hands of actors and a few directors, so they started the academy awards to recognize the technical crafts.

The 'small awards' are no less important than the acting/directing awards. These people's jobs are no less vital to the finished product than Halle's perky breasts. More vital perhaps ... at least their jobs are real.

I enjoy the technical awards and am disappointed more every year as they're relegated further and further to the dumpsters behind the Kodak Theatre.

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Monday, February 28, 2005 7:13 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


What awards ?

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Monday, February 28, 2005 7:38 AM

LISSA


Quote:

Originally posted by Knibblet:


The 'small awards' are no less important than the acting/directing awards.
I enjoy the technical awards and am disappointed more every year as they're relegated further and further to the dumpsters behind the Kodak Theatre.




i agree, but it wasn't even limited to the technical awards this year. The winner for best live-action short had to give his speech from the aisle (along with other winners, but i don't remember specifically who because i was listening to oasis on my headphones). i felt horrible for the people who worked for years, worked their asses off, and finally won an oscar, only to be forced to give their speech in the aisle to a camera instead of on the oscar stage. what a gip.

~lissa, spwhore

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Monday, February 28, 2005 7:43 AM

LISSA


oh, and beyonce should DEFINITELY not have been singing those songs. ridiculous. i felt horrible for emmy whats-her-face from phantom of the opera when she had to introduce beyonce singing HER SONG. i mean WTF?! it's not like she couldn't be at the awards--she was there to do the introduction! beyonce is a good pop singer but she doesn't exactly have the voice for that song. i guess the people in charge of the oscars sat down and had a meeting and said, "i think we should have someone less talented than the actual singer perform this song." "good idea! brilliant!" sometimes i hate people.

~lissa, spwhore

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Monday, February 28, 2005 7:51 AM

GORRAMREAVERS


Quote:

Originally posted by STEVEthePIRATE:

Felt like throwing something at Sean Penn for lashing out at Chris Rock for his Jude Law joke. Penn remembers he was Spicoli, right?



I missed this. How did Penn 'lash out'? Was it in a kidding tone or was he pissed?

p.s. How could he be pissed at a lil Jude Law joke?

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Monday, February 28, 2005 7:59 AM

P1NKISPUNK


Omg Eternal Sunshine won :D:D:D Thank-you so much you've made my day (I'm a brit so haven't seen the awards yet.)

Eternal Sunshine should have been nominated in every damn category!

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Monday, February 28, 2005 8:13 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL


Quote:

Originally posted by lissa:
"i think we should have someone less talented than the actual singer perform this song." "good idea! brilliant!" sometimes i hate people.

~lissa, spwhore



It wouldn't surprise me at all. I had that same feeling when little Emmy introduced Beyonce...mumbled to self...wrong, wrong, wrong, it's all wrong.

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Monday, February 28, 2005 8:22 AM

MIKEYMO


I didn't watch the awards, but I'm thrilled that Million Dollar Baby won best picture.

Not because I've seen it, because I haven't. But I won 50 bucks! So, rah rah!!

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Monday, February 28, 2005 8:41 AM

KASUO


I missed most of the show, though I did get to see Penelope Cruz and SALMA HAYEK present.. Oh my yes.

But upon reading this morning that Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind won Best Original Screenplay, I was happy. Also, I had purchased 20K shares in HSX that had Eternal Sunshine win that award. Woo!

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Monday, February 28, 2005 9:13 AM

ZEEK


I was only dissapointed that Aviator didn't win more. I'm pretty anti-Leo and that movie was still pretty darn good in my opinion.

It was sort of funny that they couldn't find any other female singers than Beyonce but I thought she did a very good job. Don't understand what all the complaining is about.

The people I watched the awards with already made the joke about awards being in the parking lot by the time Chris Rock told it. That was just mean making the nobodies accept their awards out in the middle of no where.

The other strange thing was the giant sentinels they had at the back of the stage. We were all waiting for them to carry people off stage if they took too long or something.

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Monday, February 28, 2005 9:24 AM

DUG


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
The other strange thing was the giant sentinels they had at the back of the stage. We were all waiting for them to carry people off stage if they took too long or something.




That was a Simpsons bit! Homer's nightmare was giving a thank you speech that went too long, and the giant statues zorched him with lasers. Now THAT would spice up the show.

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Monday, February 28, 2005 10:37 AM

MACBAKER


I was happy to see Jamie Foxx win Best Actor for "RAY". My wife and I had just watched the movie last week, and he really became Ray Charles! He was so convincing in the role. Jamie's performance introduced a whole generation to the genius that was Ray Charles' music!

It was no surprise that he had nominations in both Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor catagories. He's proving to be a major talent, and he stole Collateral from Tom Cruise. I'm just glad his vote wasn't split between the two nominations, because he really deserved Best Actor.

I would have rather seen Kate Winslet win over Hillary Swank winning a second oscar, but Million Dollar Baby was the higher profile movie, so it wasn't much of a surprise.

Cate Blanchett and Morgan Freeman both deserved their Supporting Actor awards, and I'm happy for them. Morgan is one of the best actors in Hollywood, and Cate was amazing as Kate!

Best Picture and Director should have gone to Martin Scorsese for The Aviator. I love Clint, but Marty is the better director!

The overall show was uninspiring, and I hated the "awards from the isle" idea, but the highlight of the night, had to be the tribute to Johnny Carson. He will be missed!

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Monday, February 28, 2005 11:45 AM

STEVETHEPIRATE


Quote:

Gorram reavers said

"I missed this. How did Penn 'lash out'? Was it in a kidding tone or was he pissed?
p.s. How could he be pissed at a lil Jude Law joke?"



It wasn't as much what he said as it was the way he said it and the fact that he said anything at all. It just seemed like a petty shot at someone he (apparently) didn't believe had any place hosting the Oscars. He came off as very condescending - he's gettin' good at that.

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Monday, February 28, 2005 12:19 PM

TOMANTA


I was utterly dissappointed by the entire thing. I mean, I can't complain much about who won but there wasn't a single surprise the entire night. I woulda killed for Owen or Portman to win a supporting acting award, or for Scorsese to finally win a directing award...

Rock was dull (especially after seeing the Carson tribute).

Also it really felt like they were trying to finish on time but doing so by taking shortcuts (such as all the nominees on stage or giving awards at their seats). There are other, better ways to keep it on schedule.

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Monday, February 28, 2005 12:27 PM

TMURRIE


You know, I saw a lot of movies last year, and none of them were nominated for anything, save of course spiderman, but that was nominated for what, sound editing? For shame academy, for shame.

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Monday, February 28, 2005 12:37 PM

REGINAROADIE


While I liked MILLION DOLLAR BABY (was #3 on my list of best of 2004), I was kinda hoping that THE AVIATOR would sweep everything (since it was #2 on my list).

But other than Marty losing for the third time to an actor (albeit one whose done his best work and could be seen as a contemporary of Scorseses), I was generally OK with the wins of the evening, although I would've liked to have seen Morgan Spurlock win for Best Doc Feature.

Fave moment was when Edna Mode presented alongside Pierce Brosnan for Costume Design and basically ignored him. Just perfect.

"NO HAI ES BANDAI. THERE IS....NO.....BAND. AND YET....WE HEAR A BAND."

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Monday, February 28, 2005 2:53 PM

SMITH


I'm so sick of Scorsese being passed over, though admittedly Clint did a superb job. "Aviator" wasn't Scorses's best work, but it's about time the Academy recognised him as being one of the leading directors of our time. Rock managed to hold back alot more than I thought he would, but I don't think he'll get the gig next year. Blanchett and Freeman's awards were well deserved, I haven't seen Ray so I can't comment on Foxx. Altogether I found the awards too hurried and a tad boring, I even found myself missing Billy Crystal! (I loved his musical opening last year) I have just one more question...where was Jack Nicholson? I was beginning to count on his presence in the audience, it seemed that alot of the big names were absent this year.

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Monday, February 28, 2005 6:21 PM

REGINAROADIE


Don't know man. I know they were trying to go hip this year by getting Rock to host it, but Crystal has the whole hosting gig nailed. I like it when he digitally inserts himself into the nominated movies of each year. Like in 97 when he got beaten up by Russell Crowe, auditioned for THE FULL MONTY, strangled by Robin in GOOD WILL HUNTING and dangled from the railing of the Titanic with Kevin Costner.

And so what if THE AVIATOR isn't Martin's best work. THE LAST WALTZ proved long ago that Martin could pull something out of his ass, and it's still gold, orat least a whole level better than most of the mediocrities that pass as movies.

I think that with Marty, instead of giving him an Oscar for one movie, they should give him one for his entire career, like they did with Sidney Lumet this year. That way, you're honoring one of the best bodies of work by a filmmaker, rather than just one movie.

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Monday, February 28, 2005 6:32 PM

RIVERGIRL


Aviator should have won more of the big ones

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

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Tuesday, March 1, 2005 8:19 AM

BADGERSHAT


I'll be happy with the Oscars when they decide to do away with the ceremony and just mail them to the winners, then announce the list of awards on msnbc.com.

Awards ceremonies suck. It's a bunch of rich and famous people congratulating themselves and each other. It's the ultimate masturbatory event, hyped to the point of absurdity.

Just make the movies, and base the awards on what the general public's ticket purchases are.

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Tuesday, March 1, 2005 9:57 AM

EMBERS


well the way the viewers & ratings go down each year,
pretty soon it will be that we all just read about it the next day.

In fact the post-Oscar coverage was the best,
did anyone see Jon Stewart's show last night?
He had me rolling on the floor laughing.

now JS should host the show!


oh and talking about lowered ratings,
did you hear them talking about 28 billion people watching the show? LOL
they are so full of it.
The New Yorker had a great article exploding the 'one billion viewer' myth:
fact is that last year they had 45 million in the USA
and another 5-10 million over seas
not anywhere near the one billion mark,
and this year will be even fewer.

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Tuesday, March 1, 2005 10:27 AM

KELLEAH


"Chris Rock was thankfully not as politcal as the people on the radio hyped although no offence, I felt that the whole race card was played a little too much."

I always find it interesting that people get upset when black hosts make jokes about race, but no one seems to get upset when Billy Crystal spends half of the evening making Jewish jokes.

My only problem with Rock hosting was that after the monologue, he reigned himself in and handled the rest of the show with kids' gloves. I would hate to see him lose his edge because the Academy wants to draw in younger audience, but appease middle America at the same time.

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Tuesday, March 1, 2005 12:32 PM

GWENHARKER


I always find it interesting that people get upset when black hosts make jokes about race, but no one seems to get upset when Billy Crystal spends half of the evening making Jewish jokes.

Oh it was nothing like that. I wasn't upset, but right now there's a huge split in school (because of Black history month) about a speaker last year that offended alot of the non-african american students with alot of false and unneeded comments, so there was alot of issues surrounding this year's assembly.

So by the time the Academy stuff was on, I was completely tired of it.


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Tuesday, March 1, 2005 3:05 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Formula that explains the Oscars:

James Cameron has an Oscar + Martin Scorses doesn't have and Oscar = Oscars are shite!!!

End of Formula!

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