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Originally posted by theonetruebix:
So you want to begin the conversation/campaign by picking a hapless network uninvolved in Firefly's cancellation (SciFi) and punishing them by boycotting its advertisers.

Granted, networks listen to their advertisers, but do you think that by STARTING OFF acting in an adversarial way, doing harm to a network that's done us no harm, is going to make a network like SciFi anything other than pissed off at us?

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Package it to appeal to Sci-fi people who want quality shows on TV ?

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Originally posted by PeterG:
Ireland didn't win it's freedom (and still hasnt totally) in one battle.

And people got murdered for decades. Even without the politics, this is tasteless.

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Originally posted by shameless:
(even if Fox TV does have them - anybody know for 100% sure with a credible source?)

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Originally posted by Anduine:
Just a thought (and I'm getting gun shy about even saying anything without getting shot down here)

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Originally posted by shameless:
(even if Fox TV does have them - anybody know for 100% sure with a credible source?)

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On the 'Done the Impossible' DVD the man himself tells the story of going to Fox Broadcasting when the show was cancelled and asking for the rights back so he could shop them elsewhere.
"They said yes. And I think that's the last time I ever talked to them."
I don't know who has them now. Maybe no one does. My theory (which those who know more about media are free to dispute) is that when the movie rights were optioned by Universal, there was a clause saying that the same 'verse could not appear on the small screen. Contracts have been signed for three movies, and those contracts (according to an interview with Sean Maher on brilliantbutcancelled.com) do not run out until September of this year. And those could just be the actors' contracts; there might be longer-term holding of the story itself, which would make a return to the small screen litterally impossible. Yes, Universal owns the Sci-Fi channel, technically, but they are still separate broadcast entities. If the movie contracts state something to the effect of "This story, this universe, and these characters will not appear in any media besides Universal motion picture for ____ years or three movies" then that's not going to change. I don't know if it said that, but I know I heard something about the small screen rights being tied up. Fox Broadcasting don't own them, so I suspect it was a clause in the movie contract.
In short, the push should be to convince Universal that a movie sequel is worth their time.
And implying that no one here has been doing just that since Serenity came out is kind of insulting. I have been a member of this board for about a year, and have talked to very few people here who have not done something to spread the signal. Flyers, bookmarks, aggresive loaning out of the movie and boxset, charity screenings, e-mail and letter campaigns, stuffing every poll we could find, all to get the word out to sci-fi fans that this 'verse exists, and getting the word out to sci-fi producers that we exist. We don't sit in apathy, we have not admitted defeat, and we do not drop our weapons to eat beans.



The reason I stayed away from this thread at first was that I didn't want to snarl at a new and enthusiastic Browncoat; that's self-defeating. However, you're not the only one who is enthusiastic, and I think you should do some research/thinking before you come in and tell us that we're not doing enough when we are and have been doing everything we can, and the army grows every day as the signal spreads.

Dong ma?


Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

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Originally posted by Anduine:
I understand that Universal did the movie under Serenity because Fox had rights or there was some legality regrding the use of Firefly? Do you know if that's correct? And do you have any idea's of where we could find a credible source to confirm/deny any of the potential conflict issues?

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Originally posted by Anduine:
But that doesn't answer your or my question. How do you get them all on the same page?

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Originally posted by Anduine:
Do you know if that's correct? And do you have any idea's of where we could find a credible source to confirm/deny any of the potential conflict issues?

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Thanks! And once again I am sorry to any of the fans I may have offended in my frustration. Without your long standing fight and dedication we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

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Originally posted by Anduine:
Give us some more info on future plans. There are obviously a few of us new to the site. For myself I'm thinking or asking what your plans are for SciFi campaign.

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Originally posted by Ghoulfish:
Some of these ideas are pretty nice - just had one of my own (might not be feasable but what the hell)

I think that the main way to get a fan based mobilized is via star power. Many of the actors/actresses on firefly are still dedicated to it. If we were able to communicate our plan to someone like Nathan maybe we could get them on board.
Not strictly bring to back firefly but maybe a type of firefly day - support the sponsors who made it happen etc. A youtube movie of Nathan or some of the other actors talking about it might be able to access a large amount of fans.

Well just my two cents worth
good luck

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Originally posted by Anduine:
I've read quite a few posts about the futility of trying to get Fox or another network to resurrect the series. All I can say is sad...


I think (and maybe in my ignorance) that what's needed here is a catalyst of some nature to organise a credible and effective campaign.

Underdogs that we are, seriously, so what if we meet with defeat. Again and again. It's far better than wallowing in self pity.

Ireland didn't win it's freedom (and still hasnt totally) in one battle.

It took years of efforts by the fans of Star Trek until we saw vindication...

The keyword here is to organise. And one place it can start is right here. So the real question is how do we start? It will take time. It will take logistics. It will take building a group of people from all talents, which should be here and readily available, unless cynicism has prevailed. If the show is worth it, than it's worth winning, but it's also worth defeat. But at least we can make a noise that will cause a few to tremble.

I have some thoughts, but more importantly I also have some ammunition. As in the contact info for all the major advertisers on Fox. If this post get's enough of a reply or comment...then...let's take the next step and initially figure out a way to use what we have and logically plan out the attack.

Or. We can always sit around and complain.
thanks for listening,
Anduine

Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.
Theodore Roosevelt

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