Do Androids Dream of Purloined Unicorns? by chrisisall

With the exception of the lines over Batty's death, I don't care much for the voice-over. Ford's delivery is too flat (I'm assuming folks know the story there), and it just spells out too much. I like just letting the movie tell it's story, without the narration to hold my hand through it.

So, for me: FINAL CUT - easy.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, January 30, 2009 8:09 AM

Story, have you watched the disc with the deleted scenes all edited together like a short movie? The amount of narration originally recorded for the movie was INSANE!!! That would have been way too much, even for ME!!

The limited Chrisisall

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Friday, January 30, 2009 8:13 AM

Yeah, I have.

Side note - The same guy who did the Superman II Hybrid cut I told you about, has a fan-edit of BR which incorporates all the deleted scenes, and uses as much of that v/o as possible, using the theatrical v/o to fill in the gaps.

I have yet to see ith, though.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, January 30, 2009 8:13 AM

erk, double.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 8:24 AM

JONGSSTRAW

Infinitely better WITH the narration.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 9:18 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Side note - The same guy who did the Superman II Hybrid cut I told you about, has a fan-edit of BR which incorporates all the deleted scenes, and uses as much of that v/o as possible, using the theatrical v/o to fill in the gaps.

That sounds a mess. Sure, some of the deleted scenes are interesting, but they WERE left out for good reasons, as far as I can tell. Holden practically spells out the message of the movie on the respirator

, although I liked some local colour shots in LA that weren't used.

The editorial Chrisisall

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Friday, January 30, 2009 9:18 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Infinitely better WITH the narration.

My man.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, January 30, 2009 9:23 AM

DEADLOCKVICTIM

never too many BR threads...

i like the narration as well... it just gives it more of a noir feel

edit: guess i didn't read all of your original post... like you said, noir feel

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Friday, January 30, 2009 9:23 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Storymark:

Side note - The same guy who did the Superman II Hybrid cut I told you about, has a fan-edit of BR which incorporates all the deleted scenes, and uses as much of that v/o as possible, using the theatrical v/o to fill in the gaps.

That sounds a mess. Sure, some of the deleted scenes are interesting, but they WERE left out for good reasons, as far as I can tell. Holden practically spells out the message of the movie on the respirator , although I liked some local colour shots in LA that weren't used.

The editorial Chrisisall

Well, as I said, I've not seen it. But I'm curiouse, just to watch the film in a new way (I've already watched 5 versions of it, why not another?), and from what I've seen of the guy's other work, he is a very good editor, so at the least, I think it'd be an interesting curiosity to watch.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, January 30, 2009 9:25 AM

Good. Now that we have that out of the way-
Is Deckard a replicant?

I say possibly, but the case can be made effectively either way; that's the brilliance of the movie to me (but I tend to think not).

The human Chrisisall

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Friday, January 30, 2009 9:27 AM

On the subject of the narration, aside from what I already said about liking the flow of the film on it's own, without it, I have a problem embracing a voiceover that the director didn't want, the actor didn't want to do (and tried to sabotage), and is only in place because the studio didn't think the audience was smart enough to follow the plot without it.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, January 30, 2009 9:27 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
But I'm curious, just to watch the film in a new way (I've already watched 5 versions of it, why not another?), and from what I've seen of the guy's other work, he is a very good editor, so at the least, I think it'd be an interesting curiosity to watch.

For free? I'd look at it myself, yeah.

The deleted Chrisisall

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Friday, January 30, 2009 9:27 AM

DEADLOCKVICTIM

naw, ya think?

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Friday, January 30, 2009 9:29 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Good. Now that we have that out of the way-
Is Deckard a replicant?

I say possibly, but the case can be made effectively either way; that's the brilliance of the movie to me (but I tend to think not).

The human Chrisisall

Clearly Scott thinks so, but I feel the film works better if he is not.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 9:30 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
On the subject of the narration, aside from what I already said about liking the flow of the film on it's own, without it, I have a problem embracing a voiceover that the director didn't want, the actor didn't want to do (and tried to sabotage), and is only in place because the studio didn't think the audience was smart enough to follow the plot without it.

I don't have a problem with all of the points that you mention just because I like the film better that way. I don't think it was a bad or unreasonable move on the part of the studio, albeit that is a rare thing, IMO.
Side note: I also like the theatrical cut of Legend better than Ridley's one. Usually I like the Director's cuts infinitely better than the theatrical ones, go figure.

The special edition Chrisisall

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Friday, January 30, 2009 9:34 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Clearly Scott thinks so

I have a hunch that he wasn't intended to be, and Scott is flat-out lying when he says different, just to piss off everyone that say they knew for sure he wasn't.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, January 30, 2009 9:35 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
For free? I'd look at it myself, yeah.

The deleted Chrisisall

Yeah. Probably find it on a torrent site.

This site lists all the changes made to his cut - whis isn't quite like I had thought. It's not just all the deleted scenes dropped in. Give it a look, it sounds promising. He also has it available with 4 seperate audio tracks, so you can hear it without the narration, or with variations upon it.

http://fanedit.org/486/

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Friday, January 30, 2009 9:48 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

...With voice over and no unicorn thank you. That's how I saw it in the cinema all those years ago and that's how I like it.

All these 're-cuts' suggest a very indecisive director.

Nothing wrong with having a flawed classic Ridley. It's great leave it alone already!

Oh and I think yes he is a replicant.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 9:55 AM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

All these 're-cuts' suggest a very indecisive director.

Not indecisive, control was taken away from him. WAY different.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, January 30, 2009 10:26 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Of course it was. The guy was going over budget and over schedule. Many a night went by where they shot nothing. That after spending hours setting a shot up.

Fast forward twenty years and his re-cut added little to my mind that say's his control would have produced anything better. Especially as now there is a 2nd director's cut. What was wrong with his original cut in the 90's? He had control over that version didn't he?

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Friday, January 30, 2009 10:41 AM

No. The studio just tacked on "Director's Cut", because the term was in vogue. I think his involvment with that one was a phonecall. The 90's DC is essentially the workprint version, with a unicorn added.

And while I can understand taking control from him at a point, due to overruns, that still doesn't justify forcing the voiceover or "happy ending" on there.

Nor does it mean he's indecisive for not getting to do it the way he had planned.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 10:49 AM

JONGSSTRAW

Dekkard was not a replicant because he got the crap beat out of him by the other replicants. If he was a replicant he would not have bled the way he did, or had broken fingers, or emotions, or perspiration, or an ex-wife, or a job with the Police....and many other reasons why that theory is just silly.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 10:52 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Originally posted by Storymark:

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No. The studio just tacked on "Director's Cut", because the term was in vogue. I think his involvment with that one was a phonecall. The 90's DC is essentially the workprint version, with a unicorn added.

..and the voice over removed, and that rings true - there were a lot of those Directors Cuts around then.

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And while I can understand taking control from him at a point, due to overruns, that still doesn't justify forcing the voiceover or "happy ending" on there.

No it doesn't , but it was done by a bunch who weren't Ridley. They were desperate. It's not a surprise they did that.

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Nor does it mean he's indecisive for not getting to do it the way he had planned.

Perhaps not. But he still had the majority say for most of the production. It's really only the voice over that he had nothing to do with.

I just wish he/they whom so ever they are would just let it go now.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 11:04 AM

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Dekkard was not a replicant because he got the crap beat out of him by the other replicants. If he was a replicant he would not have bled the way he did, or had broken fingers, or emotions, or perspiration, or an ex-wife, or a job with the Police....and many other reasons why that theory is just silly.

Rachel showed no enhanced strength, either. And we know she was one.

Just indicates they made some models without the enhanced abilities, which plays perfectly into the notion that they were experimenting with replicants that were indistinguishable from humans, even to themselves.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
that still doesn't justify forcing the voiceover or "happy ending" on there.

*RANT ALERT*

"Happy ending"???
Where they escaped to a far away land, no longer hunted, with jobs waiting, and affordable replicant-friendly housing?
I must have missed that part.

'Cause, ya see, from my viewing of that version, I only saw them enjoy some country road in the sunlight before the real, hard work of surviving in a world that has suddenly become unthinkably hostile towards them begins.

But, your mileage obviously varies.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, January 30, 2009 11:38 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Originally posted by Storymark:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Dekkard was not a replicant because he got the crap beat out of him by the other replicants. If he was a replicant he would not have bled the way he did, or had broken fingers, or emotions, or perspiration, or an ex-wife, or a job with the Police....and many other reasons why that theory is just silly.

Rachel showed no enhanced strength, either. And we know she was one.

Just indicates they made some models without the enhanced abilities, which plays perfectly into the notion that they were experimenting with replicants that were indistinguishable from humans, even to themselves.

That's interesting and true about Rachel, although we really don't know her potential strength. After Dekkard outed Rachel with VK, Tyrell said that Rachel was just an experiment, nothing more....which leads me to believe that Tyrell Corp had focused up to that point on off-world replicants for work and sex. Why make a Dekkard to kill off your product then?

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Friday, January 30, 2009 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
*RANT ALERT*

"Happy ending"???
Where they escaped to a far away land, no longer hunted, with jobs waiting, and affordable replicant-friendly housing?
I must have missed that part. 'Cause, ya see, from my viewing of that version, I only saw them enjoy some country road in the sunlight before the real, hard work of surviving in a world that has suddenly become unthinkably hostile towards them begins.

But, your mileage obviously varies.

The laughing Chrisisall

Quibble all you like Chris, with your obvious knowlegde of the film, you know darn well why that ending was tacked on, and what the intent was.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 11:40 AM

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Rachel showed no enhanced strength, either. And we know she was one.

Quite right.
My main assumption of his non-replicant-ness came when Bryant indicated that he'd had a history employing Deck, and I conjured replicants hadn't been perfected to the point of completely and utterly passing for human a decade or so prior to November 2019.

The theorizing Chrisisall

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Friday, January 30, 2009 11:45 AM

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Quibble all you like Chris, with your obvious knowlegde of the film, you know darn well why that ending was tacked on, and what the intent was.

Was it not filmed by Ridley himself?
Hmmm, I think it was...
And yeah, you're right, the intent was to send the audience away feeling not-as-bad... And I myself have nothing against a little sunlight after such a dreary atmo; they still didn't escape to happyland or anything.

The qualifying Chrisisall

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Friday, January 30, 2009 11:45 AM

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Quite right.
My main assumption of his non-replicant-ness came when Bryant indicated that he'd had a history employing Deck, and I conjured replicants hadn't been perfected to the point of completely and utterly passing for human a decade or so prior to November 2019.

The theorizing Chrisisall

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

That's interesting and true about Rachel, although we really don't know her potential strength. After Dekkard outed Rachel with VK, Tyrell said that Rachel was just an experiment, nothing more....which leads me to believe that Tyrell Corp had focused up to that point on off-world replicants for work and sex. Why make a Dekkard to kill off your product then?

Both good points. As I said, I tend to prefer to think of Deck as a human.

But in the spirit of speculation...

You could say that Deckard, while not physically enhanced, is enhanced in other ways, mainly in his detective skills.

As to Bryant, and his implied history with Deckard, let's assume for a moment that he is a replicant. In that case, it's pretty clear Gaff knows the truth, so it follows that Bryant would, too. So, his mention of a history could be just part of the manipulation - a lie to support the false memories.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 11:48 AM

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Why make a Dekkard to kill off your product then?

I could see making an extermination model, but not one a pleasure model could kick the ass of.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, January 30, 2009 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
let's assume for a moment that he is a replicant. In that case, it's pretty clear Gaff knows the truth, so it follows that Bryant would, too. So, his mention of a history could be just part of the manipulation - a lie to support the false memories.

No way, Bryant was clearly desperate to have a repetition of that level of performance AGAIN from the old Blade Runner.
But it was worth postulating.

The almost-bought-it Chrisisall

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Friday, January 30, 2009 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Quibble all you like Chris, with your obvious knowlegde of the film, you know darn well why that ending was tacked on, and what the intent was.

Was it not filmed by Ridley himself?
Hmmm, I think it was...
And yeah, you're right, the intent was to send the audience away feeling not-as-bad... And I myself have nothing against a little sunlight after such a dreary atmo; they still didn't escape to happyland or anything.

The qualifying Chrisisall

Yes, because they were going to do it with or without him.

And sure, it's not like they escape to Candyland, but it still flies in the face of the tone and style of the movie.

Let's remeber it partially consists of outtakes from the Shining.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Storymark:
let's assume for a moment that he is a replicant. In that case, it's pretty clear Gaff knows the truth, so it follows that Bryant would, too. So, his mention of a history could be just part of the manipulation - a lie to support the false memories.

No way, Bryant was clearly desperate to have a repetition of that level of performance AGAIN from the old Blade Runner.
But it was worth postulating.

The almost-bought-it Chrisisall

Ah, but perhaps he was not the first Deckard?

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Friday, January 30, 2009 11:57 AM

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Let's remeber it partially consists of outtakes from the Shining.

LOL, only the final shots.
"Hey Kubrick, are ya usin' this?"
"What? Whatever, I'm busy!"

The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, January 30, 2009 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Ah, but perhaps he was not the first Deckard?

Ahhh Story, now yer makin' my brain hurt.

*falls down dizzy with story possibilities*

The frazzled Chrisisall

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Friday, January 30, 2009 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Ah, but perhaps he was not the first Deckard?

Ahhh Story, now yer makin' my brain hurt.

*falls down dizzy with story possibilities*

The frazzled Chrisisall

That's the key. He's not a replicant....

He's a Cylon.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 12:09 PM

This discussion has happened before, and will happen again.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, January 30, 2009 12:21 PM

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This discussion has happened before, and will happen again.

The laughing Chrisisall

Ya got me. Can't think of a way to top that one.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 12:50 PM

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Ya got me.

Well, while I have ya, what did you think of A Scanner Darkly?

The whoah Chrisisall

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Friday, January 30, 2009 1:04 PM

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Ya got me.
Well, while I have ya, what did you think of A Scanner Darkly?

The whoah Chrisisall

I very much liked it. However, the first time I saw it, thought it was DVD, it was projected on a 70-in screen.... and I was on mushrooms (so, ya know, I was viewing from a thematically appropriate state of mind... yeah).

So, it was an intense experience. That opening scene in the shower was a rough way to start, under the circumstances.

Re-watched it again the next day, partially becuase I really liked it, and partially because I wanted to be sure I saw what I thought I saw. Liked it the second time, too.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 1:11 PM

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That opening scene in the shower was a rough way to start

I hear it was rather faithful to the book, as PKD adaptions go.
It freaked me out, and I was just drinking beer!!!

In fact, I bought it (just wanted ya to know I enjoy a good non-happy ending now & then).

The omega Chrisisall

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Friday, January 30, 2009 2:11 PM

I'm going to go with Ford on this one: No Voice Over. He said he hated the idea, he thought it was too hammy, and detracted from what was groundbreaking sci-fi.

My reasons are slightly different: I think it's too much exposition, and correct me if I'm wrong, was not written by Dick, who I think was dead at the time. It was the idea of the producers.

But the text of the voiceovers also contradicts the subtext of the story. My only objection to the directors cut besides the core problems of "never flash back to 15 minutes ago" and "Masterminds with IQs of 220 don't end their schemes in fist fights," was the unicorn scene. It creates a secondary meaning not intended in the original script to Gaff's last action. It also gives away what was intended to be ambiguous.

From wiki

Apart from friction with the director, Ford also disliked the voiceovers: "When we started shooting it had been tacitly agreed that the version of the film that we had agreed upon was the version without voiceover narration. It was a f**king [sic] nightmare. I thought that the film had worked without the narration. But now I was stuck re-creating that narration. And I was obliged to do the voiceovers for people that did not represent the director's interests. I went kicking and screaming to the studio to record it."

[edit] Deleted scenes? Drool.
Must have more!
Philip K. Dick wrote the story for the movie, he loved ambiguities, he intentionally wanted to make it different from the book. In the book, he's definitely human.

More on this later.

How many versions? Which contain more original scenes?

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Friday, January 30, 2009 2:14 PM

When did it flashback to 15 minutes ago....?

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Friday, January 30, 2009 2:23 PM

Early on. Flashing back to Leon's interview.

Is Deckard a replicant?

Watch it without voice over, look for clues. Two possible stories. But you need to watch it without the naration, and ignore the unicorn dream. Dick made the story, and he planned it one way. Scott is a good director, but he's not the genius Dick was.

[edit] I disagree: It's much more noir without voice-over. With it, it's classic 40s detective noir. But silence and absence of explanation are the essence of noir, and if you follow noir through hitchcock and through french noir to sci-fi noir, there's this evolution towards keeping you in the dark. The ulitmate noir should not leave you with a definite answer.

Both initial versions fail at this:
Theatrical, which I saw when it came out* says no. Director's cut says yes with the damned unicorn taken from legend. And please, that scene after the doors close, which I think was stolen from the Shining? That doesn't even exist on the same world. Also, the immortal Rachael, p-h-lease.
I'm not even considering the extra ending in my comparison: Even when seeing it in the theater, we all realized it was a tack on ending.

* I saw it in a group of six people the day it came out. It was easy to talk girls into harrison ford, easy to talk guys into sci fi, this was 1982, right?

3 of us loved it, three of us hated it.

3/4 girls hated it, 2 guys and a girl loved it. The break: World view. The one girl who loved it said "Yep, that's how it's gonna be, tellin' like it is." I thought about that, it's the skeptics who love it, and the pollyanna optimists couldn't stand it.

The other night I was talking with my mom about the film. I brought it up because she was talking about Agatha Christie. She said she couldn't get into stories that made you like the victims. This is probably true of much of the audience for anything.

The fact is, leon is not likeable, but we get to know him. Then later, we get to know and sympathize with zora. After that, we get to know and like the characters, depending on who you are.

The book is a totally different story and worth reading. There are many possibilities here. But the construction of Deckard's status, specieswise, is meticulously constructed, something which the voice over rips to shreds.

As far as strenth goes, we see Deckard get beaten up, but not die. Every replicant vs. Human combat we see is a one round combat: Human dies on the first hit.

Strength and characteristics of models are inconsistent. This I think is intentional, to show that Rosen/Tyrell is f^&king with things they don't understand. So the screw up. Pris, a basic pleasure model, is a far more deadly combatant then Zora, a typical soldier model.

The entire story can be seen as Nexus 7 taking out Nexus 6, and maybe being given the task, and following it blindly.

As for what characters, employers, tell Deckard?
Characters never ever lie right?

Oh, and how about this one:

See, Pris here doesn't have much time...
Check the incept dates, this isn't true, but he's playing on JF's sympathies. It turns out, she doesn't.

I like her curiosity, it's true in the book too, where she's a more minor character, but it makes her a more interesting character. It's also what makes Cameron in T:TSCC an interesting character.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 2:27 PM

Was that a flashback? I thought Deckard was watching video (god, for as many times as I've seen it, you'd think I'd have a better memory of it...). Which granted, isn't that far off in application, but it fits contextually.

I've not read the book, and I'm honestly not that concerned with what was changed. The book is the book, the movie's the movie.

I think the movie works best without a definitive answer. The speculation is what's fun.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, January 30, 2009 2:47 PM

He was, but then there was an audioplayback in his brain, but both are flashbacks. Filmmakers forget that just because you might have shot something 6 months ago, the audience only just saw it. The film is not flawless, probably ensuring that no film is.

Oh, another thing to watch for if you see it enough times: Scenes taken from other films. Tributes I mean, refs, not stolen footage from the Shining and Legend.

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I think the movie works best without a definitive answer. The speculation is what's fun.

Absolutely, that's why I don't like the unicorn, dream as it gives you the definite yes, and the voice over gives you a definite no. The book is a definite no.

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I've not read the book, and I'm honestly not that concerned with what was changed. The book is the book, the movie's the movie.

Yes, it's still a worthwhile read. It's not that a few things changed. It's an entirely different story.

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Questions are more intersting than answers.

In the middle of total Recall, the guy who claims he's still in the chair tells him everything that has happened, and everything that will happen for the rest of the film :)

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Pris, a basic pleasure model. Where do I order one?

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Friday, January 30, 2009 2:52 PM

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He was, but then there was an audioplayback in his brain, but both are flashbacks. Filmmakers forget that just because you might have shot something 6 months ago, the audience only just saw it.

I don't really consider that a flaw, nor a flashback, really. It's the nature of his job, and I would have thought it came of as something missing were he not to review that stuff. It was his starting point.

I wasn't about reiterating the point to the audience (which is when the flashback to 15 minutes ago is superfluous), it was watching him work through the info, which I felt was nessesary, and flowed naturally with the story.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, January 30, 2009 4:13 PM