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Post your new in-order list of Trek Original characters movies here.

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 16:11
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Saturday, May 16, 2009 7:15 AM

#1 Star Trek TMP
#2 Star Trek (2009)
#3 Voyage Home
#4 Undiscovered Country
#5 WOK/SFS
#6 that "fifth one"

Generations the abomination exists in a different 'Verse than me

Has your list changed?

The laughing Chrisisall

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Saturday, May 16, 2009 2:30 PM

CHRISISALL

warp-speed bump

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Saturday, May 16, 2009 4:07 PM

MACBAKER

TOS movies
1. Star Trek (2009)
2. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn
3. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
4. Star Trek: The Motion Picture (The Director's Edition)
5. Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
6. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
7. Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (Hate It!!!)

TNG movies
1. Star Trek: First Contact
2. Star Trek: Generations
3. Star Trek: Insurrection (Hate It!!!)
4. Star Trek: Nemesis (Hate It!!!)

Top 3
1. Star Trek (2009)
2. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn
3. Star Trek: First Contact

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Saturday, May 16, 2009 4:15 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by MacBaker:

TNG movies
1. Star Trek: First Contact
2. Star Trek: Generations
3. Star Trek: Insurrection (Hate It!!!)
4. Star Trek: Nemesis (Hate It!!!)

First Contact was somewhat laughable IMO except for Patrick Stewart, and Generations just plain sucked.
Insurrection was THE best NG movie, and Nemesis was 'acceptable' as far as the FX & the marriage scene could take it.
If you disagree, you will be assimilated; resistance is futile.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Saturday, May 16, 2009 4:18 PM

COZEN

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Sunday, May 17, 2009 2:56 PM

CHRISISALL

I don't get the message here, Coz...

The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, May 17, 2009 3:48 PM

COZEN

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Show me a gal who kissed him once,
And I'll show you a gal who's kissed him twice.
Once a city gal has kissed him twice,
She's dreamin' of shoes and rice.

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Sunday, May 17, 2009 11:39 PM

MERC2K

TOS only:

1. Wrath of Khan
2. Undiscovered Country
3. Voyage Home
4. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
5. Search for Spock
6. Star Trek 2009
7. Final Frontier

Full List:

1. Wrath of Khan
2. Undiscovered Country
3. Voyage Home
4. First Contact
5. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
6. Search for Spock
7. Insurrection
8. Generations
9. Star Trek 2009
10. Final Frontier
11. Nemesis

The bottom 3 are pretty much tied for "don't care if I never see them again". I tried to like the new one, but I just didn't enjoy it very much (I outlined some of my reasons in the "Official I WATCHED TREK thread").

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Monday, May 18, 2009 2:02 AM

JONGSSTRAW

1. The Voyage Home
2. The Wrath Of Khan
3. The Search For Spock
4. The Motion Picture
5. Generations
6. Star Trek - 2009
7. Insurrection
8. First Contact
9. The Undiscovered Country
10. Nemesis
11. The Final Frontier

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Monday, May 18, 2009 11:43 AM

LWAVES

Couple of days late noticing this thread but here goes...

1 - The Wrath Of Khan
Gave us the action that TMP missed (not that it's a bad thing), plus the return of a genuine bad guy threat. And then Spock's death. Still tears me up....

2 - The Motion Picture
Gave Star Trek back to us and had the best looking Enterprise ever.

3 - Star Trek 2009
Gave us proper Star Trek again. No more dodgy acting from Numb-bum 1 and Can't-kill-her Troi.

4 - The Undiscovered Country
Just coz I likes me a good mystery.

5 - The Voyage Home
Good for the laughs but a little bit too cheesy in areas.

6 - The Search For Spock
Good in most parts (esp. Christopher Lloyd) but let down by his son's bad acting.

7 - The Final Frontier
The search for God. Spock's never before mentioned half-brother. Still better than all the TNG movies except First Contact.

Over time this may change and it was hard not putting the new film at number 2 but The Motion Picture is what it is for a reason. And we do get that great musical score.

"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it it might cheer me up to watch."

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Monday, May 18, 2009 11:51 AM

STORYMARK

Well, I'm still not sure on where to place the new one. Too fresh. It'll need to settle in my consiousness a bit before I can be positive on it's standing. But I'll give it a shot.

And I'm gonna rank all Trek films.... because I wrote this out before fully reading the thread title, and I don't wanna go back and pull them out. ;)

1. Wrath of Khan - I still adore this one. Best submarine movie ever.

2. First Contact - I'm a TNG kid at heart, and this being their only totally solid film, I gotta give it high marks.

3. Star Trek (2009) - A hell of a lot of fun. The script has some big holes and too many overly conveniant moments, so it may slip with a little perspective.

4. The Voyage Home - Again, just a fun film, with great character work.

5. The Undiscovered Country - A bit cheesy in places, but still fun.

6. The Motion Picture - A little dry and emotionally removed for my usual tastes, but a very good old-school Science Fiction (not scifi) film.

7. Seach for Spock - A decent adventure. It's be better if Shatner wasn't wearing a pink and maroon outfit throughout the film.

8. Insurrection - Yeah, it's a 2-hour episode, without the scope of a feature film, or even a TV movie, really. But still, it's unoffensive fun, and has some nice character moments.

9. Generations - Who kept turning off all the damned lights on the Enterprise!?!

10. The Final Frontier - There's nothing I really like about this movie.

11. Nemesis - This one I hate. Shoddy rip-off of WOK, with a nonsensical script. Terrible movie. TNG deserved a better send-off.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, May 18, 2009 12:49 PM

CHARLIEBZ

My list has definitely changed!

#1: ST 2009
#2: Voyage Home
#3: Undiscovered Country
#4: TMP
#5: Wrath of Kahn
#6: Search for Spock

and that's it for the original cast. Really, that is it. There just weren't any more TOS movies. Nope.

TNG movies:

#1: First Contact
#2: Insurrection
#3: Nemesis (am I the only one who liked this movie??)
#4: Generations

I never expected the new movie to top this list but I loved it!

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Monday, May 18, 2009 1:25 PM

LINCOLNZ

TOS Films
1. Wrath of Khan
Just a classic Trek film with a worthy villain
2. Star Trek(2009)
Fun action/adventure film, well cast
3. Voyage Home
Yeah... it's just fun with great laughs
4. Star Trek The Motion Picture
Classic, nuff said
5. The Search for Spock
Far from the best, far from the worst
6. The Undiscovered Country
Eh... ok
7. The Final Frontier
Lame

All Trek Crews
1. First Contact
My favorite Trek of all time, I'm a TNG Kid too
2. Wrath of Khan
Just a classic Trek film with a worthy villain
3. Star Trek(2009)
Fun action/adventure film, well cast
4. Voyage Home
Yeah... it's just fun with great laughs
5. Star Trek The Motion Picture
Classic, nuff said
6. The Search for Spock
Far from the best, far from the worst
7. Insurrection
Lame plot, tons of holes, but some great lines
8. The Undiscovered Country
Eh... ok
9. Generations
Same as above, loved the scene on the holodeck
10. The Final Frontier
Lame
11. Nemesis
Massive, epic fail to end all epic failures

For the record all movies on the full list are about even up until #6, after that they begin to drop on my Trek Chart, ending with Nemesis which is considerably further on the list than the rest.

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:12 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by CharlieBZ:

#3: Nemesis (am I the only one who liked this

I liked it better than First Contact, however, Insurrection was the best NG film, and that's a FACT! Well, a Chrisisallfact, anyway.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:15 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by cozen:

Oh.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:56 AM

STORYMARK

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by CharlieBZ:

#3: Nemesis (am I the only one who liked this
I liked it better than First Contact,

The laughing Chrisisall

Seriously? That piece of Go Se? What is wrong with you, my man?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:24 AM

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN

1. Wrath of Khan.
An awsome story that stands the test of time. Enshrined by the Trek community for good reason. "I have never taken the Kobayashi Maru test until now. What do you think of my Solution? I have been and always shall be you friend" I know people who shed tears the first time they saw that. Kahn is a film that touched that special place to make one feel a true emotion. This is why it will never be forgotten.
2. Star Trek (2009)
A smart re-boot but I'll admit I wanted 1st verse canon, & not a sidestep alternate. The fate of Vulcan made me twist terribly in my seat...I did not like it at all! Another issue to me was the illogical and sudden promotion of Kirk. Beyond those things there were lots of other positive elements JJ Abrams brought to the table, so it places 2nd.
3. First Contact
It has it's occasional flaws but it fits the canon of Trek history tightly. A worthy effort overall.
4. Star Trek TMP
Classic Trek on the big screen. This fact alone means it must be acknowledged. It's slightly dry and presented in a manner of vintage Sci-fi, much like 2001 A Space Odyssey. There is an honorable place for this.
5. Search for spock
Neither a good film nor a failure. It was, however, predictable. I submit myself as evidence to this. I walked out of Wrath of Khan holding my dad's hand at age 5 and said "I'll bet the next movie brings spock back!" to which my 3-year-old sister replied by repeating "Spock! Spock! Spock!" and clapping her hands. Yea, predictable is an understatement.
6. Voyage Home
It has laughs but contains too many logical problems in the story. And transparent aluminum...it has transparent aluminum. WTF?

--Uh oh....now I'm into the stinkers--

7. The Undiscovered Country
The film just feels like they're trying to squeeze EVERY----LAST----DROP out of the popularity of Kirk's character. Gorramit people there is an end to everything, let it end please.
8. Insurrection
One word: Boring. I never thought I would get tired in a Trek screening until the night I watched Insurrection.
9. Nemesis
To count the logic holes in Nemesis would be to try to count stars in the Orion spiral arm of the milky way. I've experienced Nemesis in a manner identical to Star Wars II & III: One time in a theater & then they've been forgotten.
10. Generations
I had to place this one by asking myself "between this and Final Frontier, which angers me more and which less?" Generations and it's foolish Nexus plotline gets the better position because of pleasant memories of the girl I was with the night I first saw Generations and what happened twixt us when we were not watching the film.
11. Final F**king Frontier
A complete, utter, overwhelming insult to Trek. A stinking pile of Go-see. Typing these words is making my blood pressure rise because to do so means I'm forced to consider Trek 5. This movie exists in the same place as Highlander 2, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. Gr Arg. ARG I say!

Hey Chris, why no love for Khan?

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:53 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:

Seriously? That piece of Go Se? What is wrong with you, my man?

Okay, First Contact is definitely a better film, but Nemesis doesn't contain as many *groan* moments for me, so it's easier for me to watch.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:57 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:

Hey Chris, why no love for Khan?

I like it fine, I just think, looking back with perspective now, that it's a simple story, a remake of Balance Of Terror in a way, with a death thrown in to seem deep. My favourite Trek has always had a message...TMP- meaning of life...IV- don't f**k with the whales...VI- be aware of your bias...

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:01 PM

STORYMARK

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:

Seriously? That piece of Go Se? What is wrong with you, my man?

Okay, First Contact is definitely a better film, but Nemesis doesn't contain as many *groan* moments for me, so it's easier for me to watch.

The laughing Chrisisall

God, Nemesis is nothing but one loooong "Groan" moment for me. Terrible, terrible script. Hate that movie.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:44 PM

MACBAKER

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
My favourite Trek has always had a message...TMP- meaning of life...IV- don't f**k with the whales...VI- be aware of your bias...

The laughing Chrisisall

The message of Wrath of Kahn, to me at least, is dealing with growing old and facing death. At 46 years of age, that move resonates more with me now than ever!

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:28 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by MacBaker:
At 46 years of age, that move resonates more with me now than ever!

46??? That's how old Kirk was in TMP!
Speak to me when you really get up there, sonny.

The 3 years older Chrisisall

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:29 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Terrible, terrible script. Hate that movie.

I can certainly see why. I just like the wedding & FX too much to fully dismiss it.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:11 PM

DMI

Expired, forgotten, spoiled rotten.

Quote:
Originally posted by Merc2k:
TOS only:

1. Wrath of Khan
2. Undiscovered Country
3. Voyage Home
4. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
5. Search for Spock
6. Star Trek 2009
7. Final Frontier

Exactly.
-e

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