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Review Star Trek II, III, & IV as ONE story...

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
UPDATED: Wednesday, December 2, 2009 16:54
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Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:28 AM

CHRISISALL


Just got the newly released "Trilogy"...
As a continuous story, it rocks, and rocks hard IMO. An epic that spans the Ceti-Alpha system, the Mutara Nebula, Vulcan, Earth, and Earth of the past! Bad guys Khan & Kruge are malicious, new character Jillian is excellently realized, Kirk goes through Hell, and comes out in one piece, Spock & Sarek grow as characters, Starfleet honours Kirk with a demotion...!!!
Taken as a single tale, there IS no better Trek IMO.
Plus: the new transfers are unbelievably amazing.

Your review?



The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:57 AM

OPPYH


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Just got the newly released "Trilogy"...
As a continuous story, it rocks, and rocks hard IMO. An epic that spans the Ceti-Alpha system, the Mutara Nebula, Vulcan, Earth, and Earth of the past! Bad guys Khan & Kruge are malicious, new character Jillian is excellently realized, Kirk goes through Hell, and comes out in one piece, Spock & Sarek grow as characters, Starfleet honours Kirk with a demotion...!!!
Taken as a single tale, the IS no better Trek IMO.
Plus: the new transfers are unbelievably amazing.

Your review?



I just picked up the original movies(1-6) on Blu-Ray, and oddly enough these are the films I watched first.

It is a fantastic storyline that weaves through.
While 2, and 3 are closer together(probably could have been one epic movie) than 4 I think each film has enough strength to stand on it's own.

Together though....There will never be a better Trek storyline in the movies...PERIOD!

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Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:02 AM

CHRISISALL


I feel that Undiscovered Country is the best single movie, but even that can't compete with the awesomeness of the "trilogy."
Only thing close would be Best Of Both Worlds 1 & 2 and Family IMO.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, November 26, 2009 6:13 PM

JAMERON4EVA


Odly enough i agree with this, but it has very, very, very, like .0000000000000000000000000009 microns, stiff competition from the whole Tom Paris/ B'elanna Torres-Pais stoey line from season4-"Homecoming", and beyond. But then again i'm a hardcore Parisite.

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

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Saturday, November 28, 2009 10:25 PM

CHRISISALL


"Parisite"????

LOL!!!


The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:33 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Huh. Looks like more than a few of us took advantage of the sales, eh? :)

I just picked up Khan and Voyage Home on Blu-Ray, and watched Khan last night. It feels a bit dated in parts, but the movie is still excellent. And the Blu-Ray looks fantastic. I definitely don't feel like my $7.99 was wasted, not at all. They didn't have Search for Spock in stock, so I'll have to keep an eye out for it later.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Sunday, November 29, 2009 1:27 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
They didn't have Search for Spock in stock, so I'll have to keep an eye out for it later.


I got the "trilogy" at Wallyworld for $24.99- definitely no coin wasted there!!

I'm just a triple-dipping slave to Paramount's evil profit master design


The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:22 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Oh, I hear ya, Chris - you got a good deal on those, though. DVD, or Blu-Ray? I can't remember if you got a Blu-Ray player or not.

Like I haven't invested enough money in this stuff over the years, now I find myself buying Blu-Ray versions of all my old favorites. And new favorites, like the JJ Abrams Star Trek... Sadly, I couldn't find a good deal on that one yet. But I will. 2001: A Space Odyssey was on sale at a couple places, but they were all out of stock. I guess I should take that as a good sign, that that many people are into that movie!

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
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Monday, November 30, 2009 6:37 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
you got a good deal on those, though. DVD, or Blu-Ray? I can't remember if you got a Blu-Ray player or not.


When I get a bigger TV (26" 720p presently) I'll go Blu, but for now I'm blown away by the upconverted picture I do get! The picture on ST2 is phenomenal, but 3 & 4 look even a tiny bit better!!! And the beloved ship-pron...


The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, November 30, 2009 7:34 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Those three movies are the best that Trek ever produced.

That said, the NEW Star Trek blows them all away by a mile. I've watched the movie seven times already in ten days. I'm addicted to it.

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Monday, November 30, 2009 8:29 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Those three movies are the best that Trek ever produced.

That said, the NEW Star Trek blows them all away by a mile. I've watched the movie seven times already in ten days. I'm addicted to it.




Holy crap! Put the remote DOWN, Jongs, and back away slowly. I think it's time to stage a Star Trek intervention!

But yeah, I'm with ya on the new one, AND on II, III, and IV being the best of the rest. The new one floored me - something I always WANT a Star Trek movie to do, but which they rarely accomplish.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
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Monday, November 30, 2009 9:04 AM

STORYMARK


I love II and IV. III, not so much, but I still enjoy it (would like it even more if Kirk didn't wear a pink outfit throughout the film).

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, November 30, 2009 10:30 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Those three movies are the best that Trek ever produced.

That said, the NEW Star Trek blows them all away by a mile. I've watched the movie seven times already in ten days. I'm addicted to it.




Holy crap! Put the remote DOWN, Jongs, and back away slowly. I think it's time to stage a Star Trek intervention!

But yeah, I'm with ya on the new one, AND on II, III, and IV being the best of the rest. The new one floored me - something I always WANT a Star Trek movie to do, but which they rarely accomplish.



Please re-evaluate. It is not possible for you and I to agree on anything. That event would potentially create the largest singularity in the universe, ie, the end of all things.

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Monday, November 30, 2009 10:34 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Bah - We've agreed on a thing or two, and so far's I can tell, the 'verse just keeps spinnin' its happy merry...

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Monday, November 30, 2009 10:39 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Those three movies are the best that Trek ever produced.

Ahyep.
Quote:



That said, the NEW Star Trek blows them all away by a mile.

I think the lens flares have made you dopey, Jong. It's good, REAL good, but it just does not have The Shat.
Quote:

I've watched the movie seven times already in ten days. I'm addicted to it.
Admitting the problem is the first step.



The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, November 30, 2009 10:42 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

But yeah, I'm with ya on the new one
The new one floored me - something I always WANT a Star Trek movie to do, but which they rarely accomplish.


After 4 viewings now, I find it to be an excellent popcorn flick, but nowhere near the level of "I love Italian, and so do you."


The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, November 30, 2009 10:50 AM

STORYMARK


Ive seen the new one 4 times myself (well, once with the commentary), and at this point, I'd place it below II, and maybe just a hair above First Contact, my previous second-fav.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, November 30, 2009 11:03 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Ive seen the new one 4 times myself (well, once with the commentary), and at this point, I'd place it below II, and maybe just a hair above First Contact, my previous second-fav.


OOooooo! Ranking!

#1 TMP ( I know, but I love it)
#2 Khan/Search/Voyage Home (I consider it a single tale)
#3 The Undiscovered Country
#4 Trek 09
#5 Insurrection/ First Contact (equal)


The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, November 30, 2009 11:24 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Those three movies are the best that Trek ever produced.

Ahyep.
Quote:



That said, the NEW Star Trek blows them all away by a mile.

I think the lens flares have made you dopey, Jong. It's good, REAL good, but it just does not have The Shat.
Quote:

I've watched the movie seven times already in ten days. I'm addicted to it.
Admitting the problem is the first step.



The laughing Chrisisall


The movie just gets better each time I see it. The characters and acting are terrific. This movie has a lot of action, and the pace is fantastic. And it has tremendous emotional situations as well. Dammit Jim, I actually welled-up a time or two! I may have felt that way 25+ years ago with II, III, & IV, but I've seen them so many times since that they just don't interest or excite me any more. This new Trek gives great hope for many more great Trek movies, the next one will be in 2011.

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Monday, November 30, 2009 11:29 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I may have felt that way 25+ years ago with II, III, & IV, but I've seen them so many times since that they just don't interest or excite me any more.


Blasphemy!

Who let this Telorite in here??


The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, November 30, 2009 11:46 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I may have felt that way 25+ years ago with II, III, & IV, but I've seen them so many times since that they just don't interest or excite me any more.


Blasphemy!

Who let this Telorite in here??


The laughing Chrisisall


Telorite? Oooh, that's harsh. Next I'll be expected to report to a disintegration chamber on Eminiar I suppose.

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Monday, November 30, 2009 12:11 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

It's good, REAL good, but it just does not have The Shat.


Which is WHY it's GOOD~!

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Monday, November 30, 2009 1:25 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

It's good, REAL good, but it just does not have The Shat.


Which is WHY it's GOOD~!


You AND Jong- both Denebian Slime Devils!!

You irk me sirs.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, November 30, 2009 1:27 PM

STORYMARK


I was never a big Shat fan. And these days, it's virtually impossible to view him as anything but a parody of himself.

Brought to you by priceline.com.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, November 30, 2009 5:15 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
I was never a big Shat fan.

I'm surrounded by anti-matter fans. Mirror 'Verse evil.
Let's get Shia LaBouff (sp?) to play Mal if they make another Serenity movie.



The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
I was never a big Shat fan.

I'm surrounded by anti-matter fans. Mirror 'Verse evil.
Let's get Shia LaBouff (sp?) to play Mal if they make another Serenity movie.



The laughing Chrisisall




Chris, ya gotta know we're just yankin' yer chain!


Shia LaBouff? Why? Why must you be so cruel?

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM

JAMERON4EVA


STAR TREK 2-4 ARE THE BEST OF THE MOVIES. AND THAT'S THE TRUTH, followed by Star Trek 2009.

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

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Monday, November 30, 2009 5:34 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Chris, ya gotta know we're just yankin' yer chain!

That's a Talos 4 level offence!
Quote:




Shia LaBouff? Why? Why must you be so cruel?




The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, December 1, 2009 2:36 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Chris, ya gotta know we're just yankin' yer chain!

That's a Talos 4 level offence!
Quote:




Shia LaBouff? Why? Why must you be so cruel?




The laughing Chrisisall


You've been out on the rim so long you didn't hear that Talos 4 is now re-classified as non-hostile, and the death penalty for contact has been lifted. You can even apply to go there, where you can live out your life as anything you can imagine you want to be. All your body deformaties will be fixed by permanent illusion, and you can finally try your hand at slave-trading in green human flesh....Nice place you got here Mr. Chris!

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Tuesday, December 1, 2009 10:00 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by jameron4eva:
STAR TREK 2-4 ARE THE BEST OF THE MOVIES. AND THAT'S THE TRUTH, followed by Star Trek 2009.


Keep the faith, bro!


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, December 1, 2009 10:03 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

You've been out on the rim so long you didn't hear that Talos 4 is now re-classified as non-hostile, and the death penalty for contact has been lifted. You can even apply to go there, where you can live out your life as anything you can imagine you want to be.

Yeah, and they make you think your credits are candy wrappers, and they nab them when you throw them away! Nice scam, no wonder the toilet seats there are made of gold-pressed latinum.
them.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, December 2, 2009 1:45 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by jameron4eva:
STAR TREK 2-4 ARE THE BEST OF THE MOVIES. AND THAT'S THE TRUTH, followed by Star Trek 2009.

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22



I dunno. I'd say the '09 movie grabbed me more than any of the others. At least that's how I remember it. :)

But after that, yes, II, IV, and III. In that order.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Wednesday, December 2, 2009 4:54 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:


But after that, yes, II, IV, and III. In that order.


"After that?"




The laughing Chrisisall

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