Rating your like of the new Abram's Trek movie... by chrisisall

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Rating your like of the new Abram's Trek movie...

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
UPDATED: Monday, December 14, 2009 19:12
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Sunday, December 13, 2009 2:28 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
No, that sort of script takes effort. Do they look like people who want to work for their money?

Actually Cit, they do IMO.
But it's all about what a man CAN do, and what a man CAN'T do, now isn't it?

I learned that from Mr. Sparrow.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 4:34 PM

PEULSAR5

We sniff the air, we don't kiss the dirt.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
No, that sort of script takes effort. Do they look like people who want to work for their money?
Actually Cit, they do IMO.
But it's all about what a man CAN do, and what a man CAN'T do, now isn't it?

I learned that from Mr. Sparrow.

The laughing Chrisisall

Man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

I learned that from Dr. Horrible and Captain Hammer

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 6:44 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Sayeth Mikey

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Yeah, saw it. The movies always TRY to have some kind of deep message, but it's not what we go to see 'em for, is it?

Nope, it's the Ship Porn, really it is.

I actually got some hard laughs out of Nemesis - not cause it's all that good, but because I used to run a futuristic RPG based on a mix between Supers and something along the Special Corps from The Stainless Steel Rat, only.. err, usually more destructive (cause they're lunkheads).

We're talkin the kinda folks you'd call in to clean house on LV-426 *after* the marines got bowled over.

And thing is, given that the group lasted a couple YEARS - most of the boneheaded gambits in Nemesis were actually *done* by these guys at one time or another, you see ?

Of course, Billy outmatches even Data on a ship to ship jump - two ships of identical class chasing each other and of course they cannot catch the other cause they are undercrewed in a stolen ship and thus actually losing slightly without an engineering team...

So he suits up, climbs out there onto the tractor beam assembly and has them set it to push, and jumps into the beam, getting the tractor shove PLUS the initial velocity, thus catching up and grabbing on, then goes and cuts their main power trunk with a damn battery powered angle grinder.

Sayeth IMNOTHERE

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Lets just hope we don't get a renegade Ferrengi in a giant planet-killer spaceship trying to destroy Earth.

Does Ross Perot count ?
If so I think we've done that one too.

-F

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Monday, December 14, 2009 7:38 AM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by ImNotHere:

Wouldn't it be great if they could, oh, I dunno, explore some strange new worlds, seek out new life or civilizations and boldly go where no trek movie has gone before?

Anyone useing that lame attack on the new movie either needs to start attacking ALL the trek movies (aside from 1), because they didn't do that either - or they need to just admit they're hating on the new one because it's new.

I'm amazed to read some of the nit-picky complaints about this Trek (not just here, but other places as well).

I've read this - "They're not explo9ring" complaint a lot.

"It's reckless for the Captain and 1st officer to go to the Romulan ship!" Hello? Have they ever seen a Kirk story?

"They sent a bunch of cadets out on the flaghip!" - Yup, just like in the beloved Wrath of Khan.

Even seen some (mostly women) complaining that Uhura was too girlie - even though she did more in this one movie than in nearly all the decades the character was around prior.

Sometimes, fans are amazing...

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, December 14, 2009 1:43 PM

IMNOTHERE

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Anyone useing that lame attack on the new movie either needs to start attacking ALL the trek movies (aside from 1), because they didn't do that either

Or 4: I've been to 20th Century California and its certainly a strange new world :-)

...but apart from that, yes - overall the films have spent too much time on "old enemies" and space battles.

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or they need to just admit they're hating on the new one because it's new.

Except that is the problem: it was supposed to be new, but instead we got yet another minor variation on the generic plot of "Renegade (Klingon/Romulan/Starfleet Officer/Genetically Engineered Human/Listener) gets hold of super-weapon and seeks revenge on Kirk/Spock/Picard" story.

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I'm amazed to read some of the nit-picky complaints about this Trek...

...none of which I repeated. I have no problem with the re-boot of the characters. I'm even cool about Spock snogging Uhura (I'm sure the little blue pills will help with the Mr Once Every Seven Years problem :-) )

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Monday, December 14, 2009 1:49 PM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by ImNotHere:

Except that is the problem: it was supposed to be new, but instead we got yet another minor variation on the generic plot of "Renegade (Klingon/Romulan/Starfleet Officer/Genetically Engineered Human/Listener) gets hold of super-weapon and seeks revenge on Kirk/Spock/Picard" story.

Well, I see your point to a degree, but what were you expecting? This is a business we're talking about. When they said they were doing a new version of Kirk and Spock, did you really expect philosophical dissertations?

They recreated the formula that was succesful before, but with a new spin.

Had they actually done something entirely new - that'd still rule out the exploration aspect - are you honestly going to tell me you wouldn't be complaining if they'd gone even more radical?

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...none of which I repeated. I have no problem with the re-boot of the characters. I'm even cool about Spock snogging Uhura (I'm sure the little blue pills will help with the Mr Once Every Seven Years problem :-) )

Well... I did say that this was stuff I've seen all over, and not just related to any single person or post.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, December 14, 2009 7:12 PM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Well, I see your point to a degree, but what were you expecting? This is a business we're talking about.

Xactly. And AS a business, we can fire our photon torpedoes at the less creative aspects.

The laughing Chrisisall

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