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is Buffy your favorite?

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Monday, May 2, 2005 6:15 AM

I was just wondering if fans of BtVS actually would pick Buffy as their favorite character on the show or Angel as their favorite character on A:TS...

I was thinking about it this morning, and on both shows my favorite characters were Spike, Andrew, Wes, and Fred...and sometimes even found myself hating Buffy. Perhaps it's the fact that I started watching the series later on, or that i've never been a huge fan of SMG, or even the fact that she now speaks ill of her experiences on the show.

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MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

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Monday, May 2, 2005 6:26 AM

GROUNDED

Oz from BtVS and Doyle from AtS. Neither character stayed long enough to be ruined ;)

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Monday, May 2, 2005 6:31 AM

BATMARLOWE

Yep. My favorite character on BUFFY was Buffy. My primary interest in watching week after week was to see what would develop in the life of Buffy Summers. Great supporting characters and I liked them a lot too and was also interested in what was going on with them. But for me it was all about Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

But my favorite character on ANGEL became Wesley as the show went on. Loved Fred too. Nothing against Angel though. He was a great lead character.

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Monday, May 2, 2005 7:29 AM

MSCKAREN

Buffy was a bit of a whiner/pouter - pointed out by Angelus, I believe...

Willow was my favorite on the show - good girl goes bad, reforms and becomes a goddess - the story of my life!

On Angel, I too came to love Wes for the disillusioned, hard shell of a man he became. He kept his gooey inside, though, thanks to Fred and the god she became.

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Monday, May 2, 2005 7:49 AM

CALLMEATH

Buffy was far too whiny (and in season 6 just plain stupid and self-centered) to be my favorite. My favorites on Buffy were pre-witch Willow, then non-college guy Xander, then Andrew on season 7.

As for Angel (the show), I never liked Angel that much. Not sure if it was the character or David Boreanez's portrayal of him, but he always got on my nerves in the first few seasons. In fact, after Doyle died (my favorite character in the first season) I stopped watching the show religiously, and would miss plenty of episodes. I eventually came back in late season 2 and Wesley became my favorite character, with Fred as a close second. Wesley was especially awesome when he became all cold and hard.

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Monday, May 2, 2005 8:29 AM

EST120

i am taking wes on angel. since he was there from basically the beginning, it was fun to watch him change from being a real nerd/loser to being a tough rugged battler.

i liked spike in angel too. he was a great counterpart to angel. they have some very memorable scenes together (like in the italian dance club).

i never really had a problem with angel himself. he was never really my favorite but he was a solid character. i thought david boreanaz was a great choice to play him. he has that brooding down to an art form.

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Monday, May 2, 2005 10:07 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Xander and Oz were the best characters for me. Willow was tremendously sweet and funny in the first three seasons but then the direction they took her was just too bosy and head 'misstressie' (-as if that's a word). I just became annoyed watching her later on.

Giles was always a great character too- I enjoyed his development, and much of the humour worked because of his typical stiff upper lipness....

In terms of Angel - 'Angel' was always my favourite character he was such an original character for a tv show to follow that sometimes the level of profoundness in the story lines was mind blowing.

And a big shout out to 'Lorne' he was just so funny.

On a side note - Sarah Michelle Gellar was on a TV chat show here in the UK and she had nothing bad to say about Buffy and her time on it. In fact she seemed quite proud of the role. But perhaps she's since calmed down about it - who knows.... It's so easy for actors to be misquoted.

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Monday, May 2, 2005 11:10 AM

HOWDYROCKERBABY1

Quote:
Originally posted by est120:
i am taking wes on angel. since he was there from basically the beginning, it was fun to watch him change from being a real nerd/loser to being a tough rugged battler.

i liked spike in angel too. he was a great counterpart to angel. they have some very memorable scenes together (like in the italian dance club).

i never really had a problem with angel himself. he was never really my favorite but he was a solid character. i thought david boreanaz was a great choice to play him. he has that brooding down to an art form.

I don't have any dislike for Angel, I like him quite a bit, but i was always more of a fan of Buffy's other relationships (translation: spuffy) because i started watching about the 5th season. Because of this, i always despised Angel when he showed up, becaue he got in the way of Spuffy, but when i began watching A:TS he grew on me more and more. I liked him, but just wasn't a favorite.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

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Monday, May 2, 2005 11:13 AM

HOWDYROCKERBABY1

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

On a side note - Sarah Michelle Gellar was on a TV chat show here in the UK and she had nothing bad to say about Buffy and her time on it. In fact she seemed quite proud of the role. But perhaps she's since calmed down about it - who knows.... It's so easy for actors to be misquoted.

The
Somnambulist

www.cirqus.com

All I know (for sure) is that Joss doesn't seem to be in any hurry to work with SMG ever again... and it's pretty much where if you don't get a passing grade from Joss you don't get one from me.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

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Monday, May 2, 2005 12:10 PM

DOCTORPAYNE13

I rarely like main characters the most, so I'd say I liked Spike (Seasons 1-5,7) the most on Buffy, and Scruffy Kneecapping Wes the most on Angel.

Of course, you could make the arguement that Spike WAS the main character in the final two seasons of Buffy...

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Monday, May 2, 2005 1:37 PM

PHILJONES

Spike is the most consistently brilliant character in Buffy, and is equally great in Angel.

Anya was my favourite in Buffy at one point, but she had a low season (unsurprisingly) in series 6.

Andrew was pretty rubbish in series 6, but my favourite in series 7 once he joined the scoobies. The 'Storyteller' episode is fantastic.

Buffy was FAR too whiny to ever be my favourite character. In series 2 and 3 she was up there, but from series 4 onwards she seemed too tired all the time and jaded.

Giles was awsome in patches, but went on a bit sometimes.

In Angel, Doyle was my favourite character. It was a shame he was so short lived. Wesley filled that void brilliantly though, and was my favourite character in Angel from then on. I cried buckets in the last episode.

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Monday, May 2, 2005 1:40 PM

PHILJONES

Oh and in Firefly, the captain isn't my favourite (although he is BRILLIANT still), Kaylee is. She's just so sweet and funny !

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Monday, May 2, 2005 3:20 PM

STARPILOTGRAINGER

Lessee...
First 2 and a half seasons or so, Willow was my favorite (the whole cheating on Oz thing hurt her in my eyes and she never totally regained my favor - she could have, but none of her storylines after really drew me back to her)

I'd say Buffy was probably my favorite from mid Season 3 until Spike joined in Season 4. Then him pretty well all the way to the end.

Angel.. hmmm.. probably Wes overall, but season-by-season:
Season 1: Doyle
Season 2-4: Wes
Season 5: Illyria might have tied Wes by this point, but the story just didn't _finish_ in a proper way, in my eyes.

Firefly, I just can't pick one.

Of course, this is only talking about 'my favorite' - I liked most of the characters all the way through.

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Tuesday, May 3, 2005 12:59 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

howdyrockerbaby1 wrote

Quote:
All I know (for sure) is that Joss doesn't seem to be in any hurry to work with SMG ever again... and it's pretty much where if you don't get a passing grade from Joss you don't get one from me.

...but she did get a passing grade from Joss - They worked together for seven seasons of Buffy. That's pretty intense. I'm just giving her the benefit of the doubt. Buffy is a great show and Sarah Michelle Gellar was a very significant part of that project. Where they are now in their association/friendship is after the fact. A little time away from each other doesn't seem to bad a thing to do. Even Scorsese and DeNiro take a break from one another on occaisions.

I hold out hope they may work together again in the future.

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Tuesday, May 3, 2005 1:34 AM

BECSTHEBEAST

i think i would plump for spike as best character in buffy - i just thought that the acting was always spot on.

in angel cordy did it for me - always able to tease out of angel something and turn him from just being morose (although there some doubt with the character direction in season 4)

in firefly - hmmm - river is certainly the most interesting -

with all 3 though - i think the strength is in the ensemble - on a commentary on Angel i remember someone talking about a scene between Lorne, Angel and Wes and how unusually long it was for tv - the best thing about all 3 shows is the interaction between the characters. The subtle nature of some of this by the end of buffy and angel is one of things that keeps me going back to them - and i think one of the reasons to be incredibly disappointed that firefly was cancelled and to be vvvvv excited re: the film

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Tuesday, May 3, 2005 3:21 AM

COSMO

Buffy without a doubt, from Prophecy girl onwards she was the reason I watched the show, the other characters were interesting as well but primarily because of their relationships with Buffy.

After 7 years+ of working together SMG and Joss probably both needs a well deserved break from Buffy and a chance to shine in the world of filmmaking, I hope they are both equally successful.

On Angel Wesleys development from the nerdy ex-watcher to crazy Wesley really made the show, Angel just was a bit one note and Angelus was underutilized.

In Firefly it was Jayne's lines that made the show for me.

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Friday, June 3, 2005 3:08 AM

HELLSANGEL

I don't really dislike Buffy herself but she's not the best character. I love Anya and Andrew, and Spike and Faith are also brilliant. I think they are the ones with the best one-liners.

I find myself laughing over and over again when Andrew says in Storyteller "In my plan, we are BELTLESS!"

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Friday, June 3, 2005 3:29 AM

GTMAN8503

Buffy: Spike and Anya

Spike and Anya could always be counted on to lighten up some episodes. I remember one not-so-good season 5 ep of Buffy that I was getting bored with until Spike came out of Buffy's basement. The look on Buffy's face and Spike's explanation was priceless, and completely turned that ep. around for me. Anya's the same way.

Angel: Wes, Fred, and Angel

Wes and Fred had two of the best character arcs on the show. In particular, what they did with Wes was nothing short of brilliant. From nerdy Watcher to truly memorable badass. Brilliant! And Angel finally developed as a character. I didn't like the character on Buffy, but he really came into his own on his series.

Firefly: Mal and Jayne

I don't really know why I like them more than the others...just do.

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Friday, June 3, 2005 3:53 AM

DIETCOKE

On Buffy, I'd have to say Spike. On Angel, Wes.

What made both of these shows great was that they were all really terrific characters and each had their moments to shine. I have to say, I really enjoyed all of the characters and when one of them died I was really disappointed. But fortunately with these show, if they died they'd often come back!

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Friday, June 3, 2005 5:24 AM

EVILFAITH

My favourite character on Buffy was acually Buffy during seasons 1-5, but my opinion of the character changed in the last two seasons. Overall, I'd say my fav character is Xander closely followed by Faith and Buffy would be third. I'm not as much of an Angel fan as a Buffy one, but Wes was my fav on that show.

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Friday, June 3, 2005 6:03 AM

STEVETHEPIRATE

"Out. For. A. Walk. ... Bitch."

That line sinched Spike as my pick. Riley was the only character I had a significant distaste for - until Kennedy came along.

Worst. Buffy. Character. Ever.

And I actually liked the turn they took with Riley in his Season 6 return episode.

As for Angel - overall, I guess I'd have to say Wes, although, once again, I never had much dislike for any character we saw on at least a semi-regular basis. Wes is just the ultimate example of how, over the course of six seasons, a character can believably transform into an entirely different person. In a way, you could say they did that with EVERY main character, but they did it best with Wesley.

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Monday, August 8, 2005 4:38 AM

GORRAMREAVERS

I love Buffy but Xander and Spike are my fav's. Giles is right up there too.
Honorable mention: Harmony and Andrew

Like everybody else, I love Wes on Angel as well as Angel himself.
Honorable mention: Harmony and Doyle.

Firefly: Mal and Simon...with a touch of Shepard Book

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Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:17 PM

FAY

I would have to say Spike. I just love the character development he went through. He was writen extreamly well from the beginig untill the end.

Anna

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Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:23 PM

FAY

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Riley was the only character I had a significant distaste for - until Kennedy came along.

Worst. Buffy. Character. Ever.

I just have a question regarding Kennedy. Who was she. I can't seem to remember who she was.

Anna

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Monday, August 15, 2005 1:56 PM

MIKEYMO

Kennedy was the bossy bitch that Willow hooked up with.

For the record: No, Buffy certainly wasn't my favorite. On BtVS, it'd be Giles, then Faith, then Xander. I liked Angel on AtS a lot better than Buffy on BtVS, but I'd say Wesley was my all-time favorite.

Bottom of the barrel: Kennedy and Kate.

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Monday, August 15, 2005 4:10 PM

FAY

Thanks for the reminder. And I would have to agree on Kate and Kennedy. I guess I disliked her so much that I forgot who she was. And Kate was just way too angry at the world.

Anna

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