Just bought and watched Buffy S1, now, if I buy S2... by chrisisall

I've read a great deal about all the seasons, and I think I'm gonna buy S4 then S5, and probably stop there. From what I gather, 6 & 7 were the weakest seasons, and many on this board seem to feel it would have been better and more meaningful to end it at S5. Also Xander has so little screen time in S7, and he's my favourite character!
Any thoughts on that?

Don't mind dark endings Chrisisall

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Thursday, July 7, 2005 8:29 AM

GLORYBE

But if you stop at season 5 won't you be wondering what happens to all of the characters?

To be quite honest I was dying to know what happened to everyone after the season 5 finale, and personally, season 6 didn't disappoint.

It may be a little dark and depressing, but I was 14 when it was being shown on the tv, I I thoroughly enjoyed the season as a whole. There were some bad episodes, but there were a lot more bad episodes in season 4, which was a boring season in comparison.

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Thursday, July 7, 2005 9:58 AM

Nooooooooo!!! We cannot allow you do this - you have to see it though to the end.

Can't quit Chrisisall!

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Thursday, July 7, 2005 11:17 AM

I bought S1, and I thought I might stop there.
Then I bought S2, and I thought I might stop there.
Then I bought S3, and I thought I might stop there.
Do you see a pattern?
S4 in the next couple of weeks, my friends...

But I ain't gonna get Angel. David is no Nathan, I just don't like him very much. In fact I'm really hopin' to see Buffy get over him.

Xan's da man Chrisisall

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Thursday, July 7, 2005 12:18 PM

SPIKEANDJEZEBEL

Personally, I find season 6 to be one of the very best seasons. And even people who don't like it have to admit that it contains one of the all-time greatest episodes, "Once More With Feeling" (the musical), which is in fact my personal favorite episode of the whole series.

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Thursday, July 7, 2005 3:05 PM

OPPYH

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
But I ain't gonna get Angel. David is no Nathan, I just don't like him very much. In fact I'm really hopin' to see Buffy get over him.

I hear ya. Angel was a good series, but wasn't as good as Buffy. However, when I watched season 5 of Angel, things changed a great deal. Probably the second best full season of a Whedon series, (right behind Buffy s2) I was blown away. If you can rent or borrow the Angel series, the payoff is more than worth it.

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Thursday, July 7, 2005 4:27 PM

MER

Yea, you must buy season 6! "Once More With Feeling"! The Buffy musical! You must have Buffy musical! The Trio (Nemesises)! And the main villian! I'm not going to say who but boy won't that be one hell of a ending ^_^

Then season 7 which I think is full of hidden messages and stuff. I didn't get it, but I'm willing to buy it later on just to figure out how and why things went the way it did.
It's a fun season all due to Andrew ^-^ Oh and Nathan Fillion as the villian....god was he creepy.

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Thursday, July 7, 2005 9:54 PM

BATMARLOWE

You need to see 6 and 7 for four reasons: 1) You should see the entire Buffy saga because you just should. You've come this far, you can't quit now. That would be 44 episodes of BUFFY you haven't seen. 44 is a lot to deprive yourself of. They bothered to make 'em, you should see them. 2) You must suffer as we have. We had to sit through them, now you have to. It's like a rite of passage. 3) You should form your own opinion. You can't do that without seeing them. You might love them, but you'll never know unless you see them. 4) "Once More with Feeling"

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Thursday, July 7, 2005 10:38 PM

^ What they said!

Although I do agree with you on David Boreanaz. There's just something lacking...Angel can be a fantastic character but I've never quite shared the obsession that some people have with him.

But Andrew... you have to watch Seasons 6 & 7 for the wonder that is Andrew.

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Friday, July 8, 2005 2:25 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
But I ain't gonna get Angel. David is no Nathan, I just don't like him very much. In fact I'm really hopin' to see Buffy get over him.

Are you basing that on the first four eps or have you seen more since then? I still say persevere.

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Friday, July 8, 2005 3:26 AM

I don't dislike DB, I just don't like him much. I must be one of the few who felt Buffy should stop playing with Angel simply because it could go nowhere, unless she fancied becoming a vamp.
I'm gonna rent most of the first season of Angel (my Blockbuster only rents S1) after I buy Buffy S4 because of the crossovers, so I'll let you know if I'm still ho-hum on Angel after that.

Givin' it a chance Chrisisall

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Friday, July 8, 2005 7:48 AM

BATMARLOWE

Once Season 1 of ANGEL gets cookin' and the Fang Gang starts to form it gets a lot better. And personally I think S2 is excellent. Even if you aren't that crazy about DB, you may get into some of the supporting characters. Just my 2 cents.

And hey, man, Buffy wasn't "playing" with Angel. He's the love of her life. I know those two crazy kids could work it out if they'd just give it a chance :)

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Friday, July 8, 2005 9:38 AM

AMYEL

I hated Buffy and Angel together and I especially thought Angel was kind of useless. But then I really loved Angel the Series. Angel developed a personality that didn't involve angsty arguments with Buffy.

And Angel season 2. Gah.... love love love love love love. Now THAT is how I like my tragic love-hate relationships. And all those flashbacks. Mmm... hot vampire lovin.

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Friday, July 8, 2005 10:18 AM

CAPTAINCDC

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Originally posted by MER:
...I'll eventually get it...just not right now. $60 per season can take a lot out of you if you buy more than one tv series. (Buffy/Angel is the most exp while others range around $20-40)

I don't know where you are buying your sets, but I have all the Buffy and Angel sets and I've never paid more than $48 for any of them. I usually get them from amazon. Just FYI if you are paying $60 per.

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Friday, July 8, 2005 10:32 AM

CAPTAINCDC

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I don't dislike DB, I just don't like him much. I must be one of the few who felt Buffy should stop playing with Angel simply because it could go nowhere, unless she fancied becoming a vamp.
I'm gonna rent most of the first season of Angel (my Blockbuster only rents S1) after I buy Buffy S4 because of the crossovers, so I'll let you know if I'm still ho-hum on Angel after that.

Givin' it a chance Chrisisall

I think you will love Angel. Because, like Buffy, it is an ensemble. The additions of Wesley and Fred were masterstrokes IMO. The cast gives great performances and solid storytelling throughout the series. Highly recommended!

Also, don't give up on Buffy after S5 (which is one of the weakest of the series IMO). You may agree with some of the other people here that did not like S6&7. But you may agree with those of us that enjoyed S7 and loved S6. Don't let others make that decision for you. See it and judge for yourself, I bet you just might like it. Let us know.

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Friday, July 8, 2005 10:35 AM

AMYEL

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincdc:
Quote:
Originally posted by MER:
...I'll eventually get it...just not right now. $60 per season can take a lot out of you if you buy more than one tv series. (Buffy/Angel is the most exp while others range around $20-40)

I don't know where you are buying your sets, but I have all the Buffy and Angel sets and I've never paid more than $48 for any of them. I usually get them from amazon. Just FYI if you are paying $60 per.

No kidding! Buffy & Angel sets are actually some of the cheapest. Especially when you consider HBO and Showtime series which can run up to $90 and they have much fewer episodes. The expense of Farscape is INSANE, and I've also seen shows like Alias and the X-Files going for at least $10-15 more than a Buffyverse set.

Buying any DVDs in-store can get very pricey, but Amazon seems to always be offering sales for BtVS and AtS (especially went you buy more than one set at a time). I've bought a lot of sets used, but the quality can be iffy. My used BtVS 3 set came crushed into a couple of pieces, but the DVDs were just fine.

You also just need to pay attention to advertising. Target had a one-week only sale for Buffy s7 (and a few other shows) for $17.99. BestBuy does specials every once and a while too.

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Friday, July 8, 2005 10:56 AM

DAELUS

I would say you should give 'Angel' a proper chance, as it really is an ensemble show. Angel develops into a good character during it, anyway.
I consider season 1 of 'Angel' to be fairly mediocre for the most part, but once season 2 starts.. WOW. From there until the end of season 5 is just a rollercoaster ride. I think it's a stronger show than 'Buffy', in the end.

As for 'Buffy'.. many (well, a few) people consider season 6 to be one of the strongest seasons. You should give the last two seasons a try, as there are at least a few standout episodes between them. Plus, there are some crossovers with 'Angel'.

Although maybe it would be a better idea to finish off 'Buffy' and then move on to 'Angel'.
But that's not necessary, I guess. I find it tends to kill the flow of it when you're constantly alternating shows, though.

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Friday, July 8, 2005 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by Daelus:
Although maybe it would be a better idea to finish off 'Buffy' and then move on to 'Angel'.
But that's not necessary, I guess. I find it tends to kill the flow of it when you're constantly alternating shows, though.

Nah - then you miss out on some excellent cross show double bill type things that really should be watched in sequence.

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Friday, July 8, 2005 12:55 PM

Hey everyone! I usually try to respond to each of y'all individually, but I'm short on time. I much appreciate your imput, and must now say I have my hot little hands on season 4, I had to sell my soul, and some of my most longest held comics, but I got it.($48 including tax from Circuit City, captaincdc!)
I love the note from Joss in it! So cool that he would think of the fans that way.

Off to college!

Need...more...Xander...Chrisisall

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Friday, July 8, 2005 3:22 PM

MER

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincdc:
Quote:
Originally posted by MER:
...I'll eventually get it...just not right now. $60 per season can take a lot out of you if you buy more than one tv series. (Buffy/Angel is the most exp while others range around $20-40)

I don't know where you are buying your sets, but I have all the Buffy and Angel sets and I've never paid more than $48 for any of them. I usually get them from amazon. Just FYI if you are paying $60 per.

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...I usually buy them from Walmart or Best Buy. *laughs* dear god. I'll have to check them out from Amazon.com or someplace online that'll have it cheap. Pooo 48? Lucky...the cheapest I can find outside of stores is around $50-55 depending on the season and sale. But still, it's practically $60

If I could use my credit card for used dvds, I probably would've done so buy now.

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Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:45 PM

BLOODYAWFULPOET

After Season 2, good luck getting the show out of your head. You'll rush out and buy 'em all up - even if it means going bankrupt.

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Monday, July 18, 2005 11:56 AM

Nope, I'm stopping with S4!
* he unconciously orders season 5 thinking he's checking his bank account*
See? I don't even have enough in my account.

Can stop anytime I want Chrisisall

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Monday, July 25, 2005 9:06 PM

SHINY4004

I'm glad to see you've stuck with it!

Once you've seen all the seasons (including Angel)and fallen in love with all of them of course, you can then proclaim yourself a Whedonite.

And don't you want that title??? Well don't you?? lol

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Monday, July 25, 2005 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by Shiny4004:
Once you've seen all the seasons (including Angel)and fallen in love with all of them of course, you can then proclaim yourself a Whedonite.

Now that's an interesting point - a couple of us have been discussing this lately: how can you call yourself a true fan of Joss if you never paid attention to Buffy/Angel or, worse, "don't care for them."

Just curious...

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Tuesday, July 26, 2005 4:25 AM

Iwas there for the movie of Buffy, Toy Story, Alien Resurrection, Titan AE, I even just got the Serenity comic, not to mention FF and Buffy S1-4 so far...
I'd say I was a fan, right?

Bet you don't have Astounding X-Men that Joss wrote Chrisisall

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Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:28 AM

I assume you mean Astonishing X-men you non-fanboy!

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Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:08 AM

SHOOT ME!!! I didn't buy it! I don't like X-Men enough to spend the money I'm saving to buy Buffy S5!!!
That's it! Let's start fighting like they do on the RWE board!
Put 'em up!

Non-Fanboys have no sense of humour Chrisisall

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Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:53 PM

BATMARLOWE

Nah, it's cool. Buy Season Five, then after that you can save for the trade paperback of Joss' Astonishing X-Men run. You may not like the X-Men but you may like these stories written by Joss in which the characters just happen to be the X-Men.

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Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:56 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Iwas there for the movie of Buffy, Toy Story, Alien Resurrection, Titan AE, I even just got the Serenity comic, not to mention FF and Buffy S1-4 so far...
I'd say I was a fan, right?

I would have to say YES.

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Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:30 AM

I bought Astonishing having read nothing previously in continuity. It's still good.

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Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:32 AM

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I bought Astonishing having read nothing previously in continuity. It's still good.

Me too. Am sure it helps to know the (incredibly long and complicated) history of the X-Men but the comic's a good stand-alone read.

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Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:20 AM

I knew the basic stuff having watched the cartoon when I was younger, but nothing in print.

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Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:00 AM

ICEDPHOENIX

Gee, I dunno about y'all, but I got a brand new Buffy Season 7 DVD set for $17.77.

Thank goodness for Target and after-Thanksgiving sales.

Considering that Joss long considers Kitty Pryde to be an influential character, I think Astonishing X-Men is well worth picking up. Besides, it's more Joss and one can never have too much Joss in a day.

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Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by batmarlowe:
trade paperback

I love those words.
They mean affordability and nice shiny pages....

Comic dude Chrisisall

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Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:48 PM

SHINY4004

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Originally posted by fray101:
Quote:
Originally posted by Shiny4004:
Once you've seen all the seasons (including Angel)and fallen in love with all of them of course, you can then proclaim yourself a Whedonite.

Now that's an interesting point - a couple of us have been discussing this lately: how can you call yourself a true fan of Joss if you never paid attention to Buffy/Angel or, worse, "don't care for them."

Just curious...

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Well I think as long as you're completely obsessed with everything in the Whedonverse then you can call yourself a Whedonite...of course this is coming from someone who has been a Whedonite from the beginning... lol

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Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:58 PM