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How should Buffy end, in the last season ever ?

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Sunday, October 6, 2002 6:26 AM

WILLIAM


Does anyone have any thoughts on how BTVS should end ?

This is what I think should happen: Buffy and gang fighting some big bad...they win of course, no one gets too hurt. The next day Buffy is at Sunnydale high at the school corridors, Dawn and her 2 friends walk, she smiles, and then there'll be flashbacks of her starting Sunnydale high, meeting with Xander and Willow, and the rest of what's happened since then. Before the end credits, we see her smiling. The End.


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Sunday, October 13, 2002 1:08 AM

WILLIAM


So NO ONE has ANY ideas of how Buffy should end ?

Well, all I know is that I want Buffy to live at the end, not die like Xena.

Buffy doesn't have to die, she died before...

Faith also shouldn't die, unless the are definite plans for a spin-off slayer series.


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Saturday, October 26, 2002 6:52 PM

SERENITYANGEL


Quote:

Originally posted by William:
Does anyone have any thoughts on how BTVS should end ?

This is what I think should happen: Buffy and gang fighting some big bad...they win of course, no one gets too hurt. The next day Buffy is at Sunnydale high at the school corridors, Dawn and her 2 friends walk, she smiles, and then there'll be flashbacks of her starting Sunnydale high, meeting with Xander and Willow, and the rest of what's happened since then. Before the end credits, we see her smiling. The End.




I really love that idea! I want it to end that way! That would be a perfect ending!

I personally don't want it to end, becasue I've been there since the beginning, but I can say that I don't see it ending on a completely happy note, that's just not Joss's way. I mean he's even been quoted as not liking happy endings. But I do see all the original Scoobies living and them finally closing the Hellmouth and being able to live almost normal lives. I see Xander and Anya getting back together and maybe even Buffy getting back with a now sane Spike.....other than that, I can't think of how it could end. I'm going to stay in denile until the inevitable ocurrs. OH, but if Xander dies in the ends, I can sure as heck tell you that I'd look like this! He's my fav character and has been since episode one so if he dies, I'll be sooooo mad!

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Sunday, October 27, 2002 3:48 AM

KOBAYASHI


I don't have any thoughts on what the last scene will be, but I do have ideas...

Something big will happen with Buffy and Dawn. I still have theories that Dawn is really Buffy, or at least 'part' of Buffy... so maybe Dawn will 'become' Buffy... ?

Spike will die. He'll sacrafice himself to save Dawn / Buffy. I hate to think this, I would love to have Spike live on and show up in Angel - season five possibly, but I don't think its the right thing to do. Spike should die.

Xander and Anya wont get back together. Anya will be completely gone from the show before the end.

Willow - ? No idea.




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Sunday, October 27, 2002 3:51 AM

WILLIAM


Thanks for replying, alot of people are in denial, Buffy will end, if not this season then the next. I really wanted to know what other people thought about the end you know.

So many people looked at my thread, but none, well except you replied, thanks.

I guess you're right, Joss Whedon doesn't seem to like happy endings... but I still feel Buffy and co should, they've been through so much the past 7 years...

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Monday, October 28, 2002 11:19 AM

SOULE


I agree that BTVS should end on a positive note. It should be a tremendous, earth shattering, hard fought battle with success more important than ever before. But I want there to be room for the movie.

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Saturday, November 2, 2002 11:09 PM

DOUBRO


Spike die? HE's ALREADY DEAD...

He's got be ALive first before you can kill him.

If he gets dusted then he's really out of the Buffyverse, which would suck.

He deserves more respect than that. Buffy deserves a lasting relationship... Xander and Anya deserve eachother. Willow needs a job.
Giles needs a wife... and they should have some kids... we can call'em the Gilettes...

Dawn should be the new Slayer ...(is it me, or is she getting hot?) I'd like to see Spike as her new Watcher... need to go back to the basics, even if you're gonna leave off at some point... you want the fight (G vs E) to continue... so that someone else can take up the mantle... write more fiction... and movie... whatever... you can kill the characters, but not the story/../


By the By ... happily...Firefly doesn't suck... that is... I'm glad, cause without Buffy they'll be a hole in my fantasy life... so maybe it can fill the void somewhat, hoping that the Nielsens don't drop lower than a cockroaches testes...



Tonites ep, with the duel... my cuppo tea... dashing dude... derring do..

"etcetera...etcetera..."

um.. ok I'm done///

Db


Got the Love... Got the Love...

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Monday, January 6, 2003 2:51 PM

STOPCALLINGMESHIRLEY


Quote:

Originally posted by William:
Does anyone have any thoughts on how BTVS should end ?

This is what I think should happen: Buffy and gang fighting some big bad...they win of course, no one gets too hurt. The next day Buffy is at Sunnydale high at the school corridors, Dawn and her 2 friends walk, she smiles, and then there'll be flashbacks of her starting Sunnydale high, meeting with Xander and Willow, and the rest of what's happened since then. Before the end credits, we see her smiling. The End.



Nah. Too happy. Someone's gonna die. Most of us will probably agree on that. And I'm not saying Spoilers, I'm just thinking in terms of Joss never letting anything turn out happily ever after.
Personally, I think Xan's gonna bite the dust. He's been out of the action way too long. Time for him to do something heroic - other than save the world peacefully - and die. I love him, don't get me wrong - but I still think he's gonna die.
Spike and Buffy... I don't know. Possible he's gonna die too. I think yet again for Buffy would be overdoing it even for the show that is so over the top you try putting it into words, laugh at yourself, and then watch every week anyway.
I wanna know how Joss wants to end this. Ending for a season is one thing, but will he leave us with the Things-Are-Gonna-Continue ending, or the Everything-Is-Different ending?
And I think everyone knows by know that Eliza D's coming back. So unless she's gonna die and be Evil, then Faith's coming back. Seems she might finally die. Or carry on the Slaying. Heck, maybe they'll all die, and the world really will end. Would kinda mess things up on Angel, though.

I just spent moments pondering. Yes. The world should really end, everyone should die very heroic deaths, except for one of them, who believes something the First says and betrays the rest of them. Not Dawn. Too obvious. Who's strong, other than Buffy? Willow? hmmm... anyway, only Faith is left, and she, reformed totally, starts fresh, with a world totally rid of every influence Buffy Summers had on it. Except for Faith. And it all starts over again. Seems dramatic enough. Whaddya think?


You are strange and off-putting.

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Tuesday, January 7, 2003 9:56 AM

BOBKNAPTOR


Basis for this theory is a bit spoilery about tonight's episode. Inviso-text on for comment from spoiled rotten:

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They find out that there's a vulnerability in the Slayer line, which is why the First is attacking now. The vulnerability is some disruption caused by the Slayer. Giles theorizes that Buffy's resurrection caused the vulnerability.



So, here's my theory... Towards the end of the season, when Faith comes back, she and Buffy have the big nasty fight, then the tearful reunion. Faith admits what a big evil bitch she was, and Buffy forgives her. They fight side by side and Buffy realizes that Faith is a good slayer, and a good person.

Let's face it, they can't kill Buffy. No one would believe it. She's died two, almost 3 times, and nothing seems to keep a good slayer down. In order to get Buffy off the show without killing her, my theory is a big, powerful spell that strips Buffy of her calling.

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This would be the only way to heal the "vulnerability" in the slayer line, which would be why she agrees to it.

She is still alive, but she's just a young woman, no longer full of slayer power. (flash back to Season 3 episode "Helpless" conversation she had with Angel about the possibility of her calling being a "wrong number".) Now that she is no longer "slayer girl" she and Dawn leave Sunnydale because she is a target for the demons that know her there. Without her powers, she can't protect herself and Dawn well enough.

This leaves us with two options for continuing on... 1) Faith is the new guardian of the Hellmouth... She's the new spin-off. 2) Faith dies in the final episode and Kennedy is called. Kennedy, Willow, Xander & Spike stick around as guardians of the hellmouth. Willow can't be watcher if Kennedy is the slayer, because I see some definite romance on the way there. That would be too weird. Maybe Xander? That would give him something to do other than fix the windows. He's definitely got enough time in the field, and I'm sure that given enough practice, he couldn't be knocked unconscious just as easily as Giles.

I don't forsee them doing anything that will impact Angel too seriously, as this show is really starting to hit it's stride. This season is the most successful they've had so far. It won't be the end of Angel.

Interesting side note... if this really is the very end of Buffy TVS, then Cordelia will be the one who has had the most episodes as a series regular between the two shows. Season 1 of Buffy, she was a season regular, even though David Boreanaz was not. (he was only in 8 of the original 13 episodes, Charisma Carpenter was in all of them.) Although, I guess she did disappear for 2 or 3 episodes last year... If she's in the show next year, she'll have had more episodes in the "regulars" list than even SMG.

(bob has too much time on her hands, obviously...)

______________
Buffy: Angel, what if I have lost my power?
Angel: You lived a long time without it. You can do it again.
Buffy: I guess. But what if I can't? I've seen too much. I know what goes bump in the night. Not being able to fight it... What if I just hide under my bed, all scared and helpless? Or what if I just become pathetic? Hanging out at the old Slayer's home, talking people's ears off about my glory days, showing them Mr. Pointy, the stake I had bronzed.
Angel: Buffy, you could never be helpless or boring, not even if you tried.

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Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:42 AM

SERSI


Unfortunately, I think someone's going to die, too. I just don't want it to be Spike. My sister and I had a little discussion about this and we think Faith is probably going to die so Dawn can become the next slayer.
I'm not sure what will happen with Buffy, but I think it would be really cool if the Scoobies, led by Giles, started up the watcher's council again. Then, Spike could be Dawn's watcher! He did swear to protect her to the end of the world, you may remember. (I know, a little wishful thinking there.)
I have a poll going on about this if anyone's interested in taking it, or giving me more ideas. I like the ones I've read here and may add some of them.

http://www.dreamwater.net/intervention/

There are serious ideas and silly ideas. Pick the one you like best!



"Well, my days of taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."

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Sunday, January 12, 2003 5:41 PM

ESME


Quote:

Originally posted by William:

This is what I think should happen: Buffy and gang fighting some big bad...they win of course, no one gets too hurt. The next day Buffy is at Sunnydale high at the school corridors, Dawn and her 2 friends walk, she smiles, and then there'll be flashbacks of her starting Sunnydale high, meeting with Xander and Willow, and the rest of what's happened since then. Before the end credits, we see her smiling. The End.




Nice try but it ain't gonna happen. And I'm glad. Here's why:
Buffy has to die. If she somehow got out of it, it wouldn't be fair to the mythology. And I want her to go out in a HUGE gut-wrenching blaze of glory. Here's betting that she does.
Remember what Joss said after Tara died? Something like, "...what happened to Tara will happen to all of them, sooner or later. Tara just got hers sooner..."
BTVS and Joss have broken my heart over and over, and I want him to do it one last time, good and hard.
I also hope they finally show the Big Wiccans in England, with some fantastic casting. I don't give a rip about Dawn, and I hope Xander finally gets what he deserves for what he did to Anya.
Hopefully, Spike will go on in Angel, but he's the only character I hope does.
I like the idea that Dawn's part of Buffy, but if she becomes slayer I will really lose respect!

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Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:15 PM

SELNYC


Quote:

Originally posted by William:
Does anyone have any thoughts on how BTVS should end ?




I've been thinking about this as Season 7 has unfolded and I came up with an idea -- a fairly big one, at that. But I had one huge problem with this theory and that was the continuing existance of the Angel series.

And then I read that the Angel series contract expires after this season so, if that's the case my idea COULD work, if it's not renewed.

Let me outline this for you.

Our apparent Big Bad (on Buffy) this season is The First, the source of all evil in the world. We have an Apocalypse on Angel. There are more than a few hints that these storylines might be related.

The head of the WB has said that if SMG is not coming back, he would OK a crossover with his UPN rival, which also helps this story.We already know Faith is gonna be on 3 Angels and 5 Buffys.

So, OK, Buffy & the Scoobs, assisted by the SITs and Faith go up against The First -- AND WIN!!!

When they win, any vampire or demon not currently possessing a soul disappears, vanishes, *POOF* -- eliminating the need for slayers. Additionally, any of these non-humans owning a soul when this happens become human.

Buffy and Angel ride off into the sunset and live a long and happy life.

Or Joss just kills 'em all off in a worldwide scenario of death and devastation and turns the earth into in The Road Warrior, which is why we have to leave and create the world of Firefly.

Hey, it could happen!

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Thursday, February 6, 2003 3:35 AM

LOKI16CA


I think that Buffy should end by:

Buffy and Faith fight together to try and stop the first evil, but since he can't take comporeal form they ask willow to do some spells. After a big fight. The Seal of Danzarth??? is destroyed. Bringing the hellmouth to a close. 'This would not end the demons because of the hellmouth just being a mystical conversions place where weird things happen around. Buffy should be physically attacked by the first who found a way to take form of a human and start to kill Buffy, and in an attempt Spike should sacrifice his immortality to save buffy. (What if the Trials that spike had to endure at the end of season 6 aren't over and that is why the First is using him as his bitch)
After a blood hurling battle faith dies, like buffy but is soon revived. And when the slayer (faith) is pronounced dead the new slayer is Kennedy. Buffy and Dawn shouldn't move away but stay and They can live happily ever after...

My thoughts only.....
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"The bird's dead, Dru. You left it in a cage, and you didn't feed it, and now it's all dead, just like the last one"

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Saturday, February 22, 2003 1:34 AM

ANJ


i agree. buffy shouldn't die, she's died 3 times already!! if she dies again, they should beable to just bring her back again. thing is, she's leaving after this, so how's she going to go. they probably will end up kiling her off. also, the big bad, i don't think they will defeat it. if it is "the source of all evil" what's going to happen with angel? and if they make a spin-off with faith? no evil to fight, i don't think so. it would be very cool if at the end, buffy and angel end up fighting the same thing.
if dawn is the new slayer, im not going to watch.

ehh, i so will be watching, but dawn!~!-NOOO

Giles: Dear god, Buffy, there's only so much I can take. We're going to have to change the system. A fourteen-year-old's too old to be babysat, and it's not fair on her.
Buffy: What'd she make you do?
Giles: Um, well, we listened to aggressively cheerful music sung by people chosen for their ability to dance ... then we ate cookie dough and talked about boys.

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Saturday, February 22, 2003 6:06 AM

OUTLANDER


My theory:-

Anya will be killed by the big bad and Spike will sacrifice himself to save Buffy, though he maybe resurrected at a later date.

Faith will not fight along side Buffy in the final battle; it will be Buffy fighting alone. Faith may rescue Buffy at some stage to create a bond between the two slayers.

In the spin off series Faith will become a roving slayer sent out on special slayer missions with Sander tagging along as Faith's right hand man/potential love interest. Sander will finally get some special powers.

Buffy will have temporary retirement in Sunnydale with Dawn and Willow after the Hellmouth is closed. Faith and Zander may drop in to Sunnydale and L.A. from time to time. Dawn, Willow and/or Spike may become regulars on the Faith show as well.

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Saturday, February 22, 2003 11:16 PM

BARTOK


I think you're on the right track Selnyc. That's pretty much been my theory for several months now too. It neatly ties everything up so that he'll never have to revive the show no matter how much fans beg. (Look at the final episode of Forever Knight if you want to see what a writer does when he's pissed off at fans who won't let him stop.)

As for couplings, blah, whatever. No matter who ends out with whom some will be disappointed.

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Saturday, February 22, 2003 11:45 PM

ZERO


My fingers are crossed for this ending:

Buffy gets slayed by a vampire.

The End.

Crappy end to a crappy show. GO POST ON A BUFFY SITE! Move along ppl, nothing to see here, shows over!

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Sunday, February 23, 2003 12:16 AM

BRTICK


Yikes! Harsh words from Zero! This thread was posted in the Buffy section of the forum you know! And most of us here are die-hard Whedonites as well as Browncoats!
Anyways, I think Buffy should end with Buffy succeeding in closing the hell mouth her and spike (or angel!) running off to be together. Setting the stage for the rumored Faith series, co staring Andrew as the comic relief, Wood as the new watcher, Willow as the Hot Witch, and Kennedy as the Hot Witch’s girlfriend/Slayer Sidekick.


Keep Flying!

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Sunday, February 23, 2003 12:53 AM

SUCCATASH


I never really watched Buffy so much until Firefly pointed me in the right direction. But now I've come to really appreciate it, and I am sorry the end has come. I'm glad there are DVD's available.

I liked the recent episode where she turned down the extra powers offered by the Dances With Wolves guys in the portal.






Has YOUR mom seen Firefly, lately?

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Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:30 AM

MARK


I want a nice, happy ending...

However - There have been pointers already about how it will go in the final episodes and anyone who has read the 'Fray' comic series knows exactly what is going to happen... I guess there is some wiggle room for what happens after the final episode, but really and truely, it's already a done deal.

Select to view spoiler:



According to Fray and to the few minor snippets in the episodes so far, Buffy is the last Slayer for 400 years. After she's done, no more will be called. There will be more potentials but no need for Slayers because all the demons will be banished. Unfortunately, she gets sucked into hell by the closing of the hellmouth.




Twelve spheres of unendurable brightness spalled the velvety blackness of space.
The silence on Lester Tourville's flag bridge was absolute
And then the spell was broken as Shannon Foraker looked up from her console from where she had just sent a seemingly innocent command to the main computers of State Security's finest Superdreadnoughts.
"Oops." She said.

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Sunday, February 23, 2003 9:24 PM

WESTCITY3000


This is how is will end. BUFFY, FAITH, Spike, and the gang will fight the first and it's army.

1. Most of the Slayer wannables die.
2. Dawn and Kennedy dead (least favorite characters in my opinion, Dawn can't come on ANGEL, because Buffy fans barely like her)
3. Anya dies
4. Willow uses magic to help battle THE FIRST.
5. Buffy and Faith manages to defeat THE FIRST. Willow dies. Buffy gets sucked into Hellmouth when it is closed. The death of the first destroys all vampires without a soul except one, THE LAST (a super vampire).
6. Giles survive and goes back to England. Giles starts new Watcher's Council.
7. Spike goes to ANGEL show.
8. Xander survives (can go to ANGEL, but there is already too many people on that show) and moves to New York with Willow.
10. Faith and Xander survives and starts new series, FAITH The Vampire Slayer. (Dawn may survive and join this show, but not ANGEL) The premise will be that Faith has to travel around the world to battle the evil forces that THE LAST creates. The LAST creates a new race of vampires (super vampires that can has telekenetic powers) travels around the world to create evil and Faith must stop it.

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Sunday, February 23, 2003 9:30 PM

WESTCITY3000


when if it turns out that WILLOW or BUFFY is villain> Or beeter yet, SPIKE, think about it (The trials, did he really get a soul or did he figure out how to gain the ultimate power to destroy BUFFY and the gangs, after all he did try to rape her.)

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Monday, February 24, 2003 2:10 PM

HYENACHOW


The best way to end buffy for good would be to go back to season 6 (Normal Again) when buffy decided arbitrarily and without any proof that the slayer version of reality was more real than the mental asylum version of reality.

She fights the first, appears to kick its butt, kisses spike, and then the first springs back up and kills her. We flash back to her padded room with the lifesign monitor showing flatline and Joyce and her dad standing next to the bed with the plug pulled out.

Fade to Black. The last 7 years have not been real, nor any of the wonderful creatures in the buffyverse. To all of us who have lost our lives in this show, like goth trekkies, Joss says: GET A LIFE!

OR, in the best of all possible worlds...

Dawn grows up and becomes the next watcher. (Not all buffy fans hate her, she was harriet the spy after all.)

Willow becomes the head of the watcher school, since there is a need for several of them now that the council is all dead and stuff. The surviving potentials all go home a bit wiser and battle scarred.

Anya kills D'Hoferin in the big battle and she and Xander reopen the magic shop with the money she stole for RJ (the magic jacket boy.) She soon discovers she has inherited D'Hoferin's powers by killing him and has to fight to keep her evil side (her vengeance hobby) in check.

Faith comes back as the slayer, and tries to come to terms with the fact that she was chosen, even if she has been giving in to evil all along. (Joss better make this good, because right now I would rather see her tortured slowly by the skin-eating demon.)

Kennedy decides she can't really handle Willow sucking her of power and moves on, and then back, and then on again. Willow eventually goes back to Oz for some much needed snuggies.

Buffy, losing in her battle with the first, decides to take the offer of demon power after all, kills the first, becomes corrupted by her demon boost, and becomes the new, mostly behind the scenes, CEO of Wolfram & Hart.

Devastated by the loss of his girl, Spike moves to LA to join the only other vampire he knows with a soul, which starts a whole character development arc as the two of them try to become friends again.

Principal Wood survives the big battle, and turns evil (the hellmouth is under his office) thanks to continuing visits from the First. He joins buffy at W&H as the front man and decides to launch a special campaign to destroy Spike.

As the last guardian of the hellmouth, Buffy succeeds in closing it, but like a tectonic reaction, it just opens somewhere else. Like L.A.

The end. Mwaa haa haa haa!

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Monday, February 24, 2003 5:45 PM

WESTCITY3000


HYENACHOW, Your endings are good and all, but there are some problems with them. First of all, the fans would be pissed if it all turns out to be a part of someone's imagination. It just wouldn't be right to do that to buffy, besides Joss is a sci-fi writer and the last thing he needs to do is piss off sci-fi fans. They are the most loyal and aggressive fans.

DAWN, is NOT very popular, sure she was cute in "Harriet, the spy", but that was years ago. The fact of the matter is, she's an annoying character with a hot body. That is why most of the male fans like her. the female fans relate to her on some level, but genereally no one likes her.

Another problem with your ending is that it seems that too many people survive, Anya, Willow, Buffy, Wood, Dawn, potentials, etc. This is highjly unlikely, most of them will die, at least some and maybe everyone. Your ideas about the hellmouth and the law firm was good.

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Friday, February 28, 2003 2:38 AM

BUFFY4EVA


Quote:

Originally posted by William:
Does anyone have any thoughts on how BTVS should end ?

This is what I think should happen: Buffy and gang fighting some big bad...they win of course, no one gets too hurt. The next day Buffy is at Sunnydale high at the school corridors, Dawn and her 2 friends walk, she smiles, and then there'll be flashbacks of her starting Sunnydale high, meeting with Xander and Willow, and the rest of what's happened since then. Before the end credits, we see her smiling. The End.




I think that would be a crap endin it wouldnt do the show justice. I think since it the last seriesof buffy i think they should go out with a bang. i think all the scoobies are gonna get killed then buffys gonna be so distraught she will committ suicide and angel will try to stop her and try to save her but itll be to late, Then there will be a scene right at the end with them alltogether in a placelike heaven with joyce and tara
Thats a good endin

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Friday, February 28, 2003 4:15 AM

ZEKE023


umm... that sounds like the end of return of the jedi - the happy waving ghosts part, not the death part.

Think of how Joss was going to end the fifth season if the show was canceled.

If the show is going to end, Joss is going to appease the fans by pulling people to go to various spin-offs... and then everyone else is going to die - horribly and without glory. Joss is going to break our hearts like he always does.
There will be no happy ending, but we'll still be begging for more.

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Friday, February 28, 2003 7:54 AM

WESTCITY3000


I'm not a Buffy expert, but I can pretty much promise you that BUFFY will not kill herself. She's too strong of a person, she could have done that many of times, I like all of the characters, well not all, but if i could chose who dies, this would be my list.

1. KENNEDY (twice as annoying as DAWN, half as hot)
2. ANYA (She's not important, she doesn't have any powers. Basically, she's taking up space. Plus, she's just getting old. Am I the only one seeing those wrinkles.)
3. DAWN (mAybe)

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Monday, March 10, 2003 8:56 PM

SINGEX


All good suggestions. For a while I was stuck on the idea of the end turning out to be Buffy in a mental hospital as well as threatened in Normal Again - ep 6x17. Then I realized that they would have to cancel Angel as well which they won't. Otherwise it would be a cool ending. I don't think that Buffy or hardly anybody will die. I just have a couple of thoughts (with references) you should remember while theorizing the perfect ending.

1. The First can take the form of Buffy.-7x8

2. Why didn't The First appear to Willow in the form of Tara since Tara is supposedly dead?-7x7

3. The First feels that Willow is a threat.-7x7

4. The recent abilities of the first are linked to the resurrection of the slayer.-7x11

5. I'm suprised NOBODY remembered 'ol corn-fed Riley and the x-initiative people in their theories.-6x15

6. If you were Buffy, wouldn't you summon the powers of the first slayer to battle The First?-4x21

7. Has anybody noticed that the only steady relationship that Buffy has had with a guy since episode one, season one was with Xander? I know they're friends but there is definately something there. Remember when Xander was furious when he caught Anya with Spike? Well, what really devastated him that night was when he found out that Buffy and Spike...So, we've known throughout the whole series that Xander loves Buffy. What will happen when Buffy realizes that he has loved her more loyal and longer than any other living man has loved her? ("when xander met buffy"?) -6x18

8. NONE of the scoobies throughout the entire history of the series has ever died (and stayed dead)!!! Except for Tara (of course) but in case you didn't catch the hint in #2, I don't think that Tara's really dead. You may argue that Joyce was a scoobie but I don't consider her one. In 7x5, I thought for sure, after all the foreshadowing that Anya was gonna die but alas, she survived to continue the tradition.-7x5

9. Would it be tacky for Dracula, the most famous of all vampires, to make his return at the end of the series?-5x1

10. If there will be a slayer to succede Buffy, it would have to be an actress with some experience on the show (not one of the "potentials") and also a YOUNG actress (not Eliza) with a nice resume. By-the-way, I'm not saying that Eliza is old, I'm just saying that if they are going to go to the trouble of creating another spin-off, they will want to choose an actress that can last another few years on the show. Now, I know that most of you don't like Dawn but you've gotta understand that the original Buffy fans are getting too old. They have Firefly and Angel for us now. They need younger viewers now for the "slayer series"! -7x12

11. Finally, was it really Joyce who told Dawn, "she [Buffy] won't be there for you. When it's bad, Buffy won't choose you; she'll be against you." If it was The First, we know that so far, it has told the truth quite often. That episode was KEY in this last season. If you haven't seen it a million times, DO IT!!-7x7


TTFN!!!
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Saturday, March 22, 2003 3:27 PM

BEOZOR


i wouldn't be surprised if joss does sum kinda big twist in the end.... like buffy wakes up and realizes that she's in a world with no monsters or wutever. like that time when she was having hallucinations. it'd be terrible if he did that, but he may hav made that episode for a reason.

=_+

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Saturday, March 29, 2003 3:13 PM

BEOZOR


i dont know. 4 the past 7 years, aside from courage and gothic literature, the theme had to do with survival. i dont think joss will be willing to kill off all of his characters. and i think buffy's too strong to commit suicide.

i think the ending should be with buffy choosing between angel and spike. we all know that david boreaniz (or however u spell it) is making a cross-over appearance. and i think, or heard, of buffy kissing angel once he makes his big appearance. its obvious that buffy will still have feelings for him, and vice-versa. let's not 4get that angel was really happy to hear that buffy rose back from the dead.

and also when cassie said (i think it was cassie) "some day she'll tell you". its obvious that buffy will soon tell spike that she loves him. and i dont think it will have that same effect if buffy says it in heaven.

maybe she'll tell him, then she'll die... again...
but im not sure... its doesn't seem right for her to die....

if someone were to die.. i think it'll be andrew.


ha!

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Saturday, March 29, 2003 3:13 PM

BEOZOR


i dont know. 4 the past 7 years, aside from courage and gothic literature, the theme had to do with survival. i dont think joss will be willing to kill off all of his characters. and i think buffy's too strong to commit suicide.

i think the ending should be with buffy choosing between angel and spike. we all know that david boreaniz (or however u spell it) is making a cross-over appearance. and i think, or heard, of buffy kissing angel once he makes his big appearance. its obvious that buffy will still have feelings for him, and vice-versa. let's not 4get that angel was really happy to hear that buffy rose back from the dead.

and also when cassie said (i think it was cassie) "some day she'll tell you". its obvious that buffy will soon tell spike that she loves him. and i dont think it will have that same effect if buffy says it in heaven.

maybe she'll tell him, then she'll die... again...
but im not sure... its doesn't seem right for her to die....

if someone were to die.. i think it'll be andrew.


ha!

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Saturday, March 29, 2003 3:14 PM

BEOZOR


i dont know. 4 the past 7 years, aside from courage and gothic literature, the theme had to do with survival. i dont think joss will be willing to kill off all of his characters. and i think buffy's too strong to commit suicide.

i think the ending should be with buffy choosing between angel and spike. we all know that david boreaniz (or however u spell it) is making a cross-over appearance. and i think, or heard, of buffy kissing angel once he makes his big appearance. its obvious that buffy will still have feelings for him, and vice-versa. let's not 4get that angel was really happy to hear that buffy rose back from the dead.

and also when cassie said (i think it was cassie) "some day she'll tell you". its obvious that buffy will soon tell spike that she loves him. and i dont think it will have that same effect if buffy says it in heaven.

maybe she'll tell him, then she'll die... again...
but im not sure... its doesn't seem right for her to die....

if someone were to die.. i think it'll be andrew.


ha!

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Saturday, March 29, 2003 3:14 PM

BEOZOR


i dont know. 4 the past 7 years, aside from courage and gothic literature, the theme had to do with survival. i dont think joss will be willing to kill off all of his characters. and i think buffy's too strong to commit suicide.

i think the ending should be with buffy choosing between angel and spike. we all know that david boreaniz (or however u spell it) is making a cross-over appearance. and i think, or heard, of buffy kissing angel once he makes his big appearance. its obvious that buffy will still have feelings for him, and vice-versa. let's not 4get that angel was really happy to hear that buffy rose back from the dead.

and also when cassie said (i think it was cassie) "some day she'll tell you". its obvious that buffy will soon tell spike that she loves him. and i dont think it will have that same effect if buffy says it in heaven.

maybe she'll tell him, then she'll die... again...
but im not sure... its doesn't seem right for her to die....

if someone were to die.. i think it'll be andrew.


ha!

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Saturday, March 29, 2003 3:14 PM

BEOZOR


i dont know. 4 the past 7 years, aside from courage and gothic literature, the theme had to do with survival. i dont think joss will be willing to kill off all of his characters. and i think buffy's too strong to commit suicide.

i think the ending should be with buffy choosing between angel and spike. we all know that david boreaniz (or however u spell it) is making a cross-over appearance. and i think, or heard, of buffy kissing angel once he makes his big appearance. its obvious that buffy will still have feelings for him, and vice-versa. let's not 4get that angel was really happy to hear that buffy rose back from the dead.

and also when cassie said (i think it was cassie) "some day she'll tell you". its obvious that buffy will soon tell spike that she loves him. and i dont think it will have that same effect if buffy says it in heaven.

maybe she'll tell him, then she'll die... again...
but im not sure... its doesn't seem right for her to die....

if someone were to die.. i think it'll be andrew.


ha!

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Saturday, March 29, 2003 3:14 PM

BEOZOR


i dont know. 4 the past 7 years, aside from courage and gothic literature, the theme had to do with survival. i dont think joss will be willing to kill off all of his characters. and i think buffy's too strong to commit suicide.

i think the ending should be with buffy choosing between angel and spike. we all know that david boreaniz (or however u spell it) is making a cross-over appearance. and i think, or heard, of buffy kissing angel once he makes his big appearance. its obvious that buffy will still have feelings for him, and vice-versa. let's not 4get that angel was really happy to hear that buffy rose back from the dead.

and also when cassie said (i think it was cassie) "some day she'll tell you". its obvious that buffy will soon tell spike that she loves him. and i dont think it will have that same effect if buffy says it in heaven.

maybe she'll tell him, then she'll die... again...
but im not sure... its doesn't seem right for her to die....

if someone were to die.. i think it'll be andrew.


ha!

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Saturday, March 29, 2003 3:14 PM

BEOZOR


i dont know. 4 the past 7 years, aside from courage and gothic literature, the theme had to do with survival. i dont think joss will be willing to kill off all of his characters. and i think buffy's too strong to commit suicide.

i think the ending should be with buffy choosing between angel and spike. we all know that david boreaniz (or however u spell it) is making a cross-over appearance. and i think, or heard, of buffy kissing angel once he makes his big appearance. its obvious that buffy will still have feelings for him, and vice-versa. let's not 4get that angel was really happy to hear that buffy rose back from the dead.

and also when cassie said (i think it was cassie) "some day she'll tell you". its obvious that buffy will soon tell spike that she loves him. and i dont think it will have that same effect if buffy says it in heaven.

maybe she'll tell him, then she'll die... again...
but im not sure... its doesn't seem right for her to die....

if someone were to die.. i think it'll be andrew.


ha!

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Saturday, March 29, 2003 3:14 PM

BEOZOR


i dont know. 4 the past 7 years, aside from courage and gothic literature, the theme had to do with survival. i dont think joss will be willing to kill off all of his characters. and i think buffy's too strong to commit suicide.

i think the ending should be with buffy choosing between angel and spike. we all know that david boreaniz (or however u spell it) is making a cross-over appearance. and i think, or heard, of buffy kissing angel once he makes his big appearance. its obvious that buffy will still have feelings for him, and vice-versa. let's not 4get that angel was really happy to hear that buffy rose back from the dead.

and also when cassie said (i think it was cassie) "some day she'll tell you". its obvious that buffy will soon tell spike that she loves him. and i dont think it will have that same effect if buffy says it in heaven.

maybe she'll tell him, then she'll die... again...
but im not sure... its doesn't seem right for her to die....

if someone were to die.. i think it'll be andrew.


ha!

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Saturday, March 29, 2003 3:14 PM

BEOZOR


i dont know. 4 the past 7 years, aside from courage and gothic literature, the theme had to do with survival. i dont think joss will be willing to kill off all of his characters. and i think buffy's too strong to commit suicide.

i think the ending should be with buffy choosing between angel and spike. we all know that david boreaniz (or however u spell it) is making a cross-over appearance. and i think, or heard, of buffy kissing angel once he makes his big appearance. its obvious that buffy will still have feelings for him, and vice-versa. let's not 4get that angel was really happy to hear that buffy rose back from the dead.

and also when cassie said (i think it was cassie) "some day she'll tell you". its obvious that buffy will soon tell spike that she loves him. and i dont think it will have that same effect if buffy says it in heaven.

maybe she'll tell him, then she'll die... again...
but im not sure... its doesn't seem right for her to die....

if someone were to die.. i think it'll be andrew.


ha!

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Saturday, March 29, 2003 3:14 PM

BEOZOR


i dont know. 4 the past 7 years, aside from courage and gothic literature, the theme had to do with survival. i dont think joss will be willing to kill off all of his characters. and i think buffy's too strong to commit suicide.

i think the ending should be with buffy choosing between angel and spike. we all know that david boreaniz (or however u spell it) is making a cross-over appearance. and i think, or heard, of buffy kissing angel once he makes his big appearance. its obvious that buffy will still have feelings for him, and vice-versa. let's not 4get that angel was really happy to hear that buffy rose back from the dead.

and also when cassie said (i think it was cassie) "some day she'll tell you". its obvious that buffy will soon tell spike that she loves him. and i dont think it will have that same effect if buffy says it in heaven.

maybe she'll tell him, then she'll die... again...
but im not sure... its doesn't seem right for her to die....

if someone were to die.. i think it'll be andrew.


ha!

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Saturday, March 29, 2003 3:14 PM

BEOZOR


i dont know. 4 the past 7 years, aside from courage and gothic literature, the theme had to do with survival. i dont think joss will be willing to kill off all of his characters. and i think buffy's too strong to commit suicide.

i think the ending should be with buffy choosing between angel and spike. we all know that david boreaniz (or however u spell it) is making a cross-over appearance. and i think, or heard, of buffy kissing angel once he makes his big appearance. its obvious that buffy will still have feelings for him, and vice-versa. let's not 4get that angel was really happy to hear that buffy rose back from the dead.

and also when cassie said (i think it was cassie) "some day she'll tell you". its obvious that buffy will soon tell spike that she loves him. and i dont think it will have that same effect if buffy says it in heaven.

maybe she'll tell him, then she'll die... again...
but im not sure... its doesn't seem right for her to die....

if someone were to die.. i think it'll be andrew.


ha!

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Wednesday, April 2, 2003 5:54 PM

NICOLA


For those who really want to know what is going to happen, I suggest they go back to the third season. An episode called "Amends". It was the first appearance of The First.

I also think that a quick look at the episode where the Scooby Gang confronts their worst fears (I think it is in the first season). Buffy is a vampire.

Joss and co. leave all kinds of clues out there - you just have to look....


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Wednesday, April 2, 2003 7:17 PM

SUINEGAGPF


Joss would never steal from another show, but... How about take a page out of Dr. Who? Have Buffy get killed off, but then morph into the next incarnation of the slayer so they can pick the show up from where they left off next season. (I'm kidding.)

If it ends as a scene in a sanitarium, where Buffy is cured of her dilusions, I'm going to be so disappointed. There are a few good shows that were able to pull off the "It was all a dream" series finale. I can't imagine Buffy being one of them even though that theory was explored in a previous episode.

-suinegagpf

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Friday, April 4, 2003 6:40 AM

ELLIE14


they wont kill spike off!!!!!!!! will they? i hope not as SMG said on buffy bites spike makes the show. i think the way it will end is as follows:
1. faith will DIE!!!!
2. possible xander death
3. a dawn/andrew relationship
and last but not least a buffy/spike relationship
i love JM and joss couldn't kill spike off because he'd get a big massive pile of hate mail from millions of girls ( possibley even gay men )

ellie luvs spike 4va

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Friday, April 4, 2003 3:10 PM

MERLINDREA


What about this ending: Buffy realizes she needs more strength to fight the First. So she makes the ultimate sacrifice - and lets Spike turn her into a vampire. Then Willow magics her soul back, Spike and Buffy kill the First and then ride together into sunset...

That would also explain why there is no other slayer - with Buffy being one of the Undead, no new slayer need to be called.

I just would love to see that scene when Spike (shirtless, of course) changes her... a nice dark-romantic setting, she licking his blood in return... hmmmm...

Merl

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Friday, April 4, 2003 5:10 PM

NICOLA


Yes. I think that is a very good guess. If you check out "Amends" that is pretty much what happens (except it is Angel and not Spike who does the biting).

And that does explain why Buffy is the 'last' slayer. If Faith dies another slayer could be called (even if they do permanently close the Hellmouth there is always evil to fight in the world) but Buffy will go on and on and on...

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Saturday, April 5, 2003 1:31 AM

HI


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Saturday, April 5, 2003 9:22 PM

JOEJOSIE


Well this is quite a long discussion and I’m a) not wanting to read it all and b) I don’t like BTVS.

However I have heard a rumour from a very reliable source that indeed Nathan Fillion will be in a few of the last shows as a “bad guy” what he does is apparently kill 2 main characters. I don’t know who he kills be its at least 2.

Since I don’t watch BTVS I really don’t know if this has already happened, so if it didn’t now you know if it did well then just ignore me.

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Sunday, April 6, 2003 1:44 PM

ZELDA


A couple of thoughts:

1)Highly unlikely that Spike will die since it's been reported that he may be in negotiations to join Angel;

2) I don't remember where I read it, but at some point last year Marti Noxon definitively said that Buffy is out of the loop in terms of calling a new Slayer. After Buffy's first death Kendra was called, then Faith after her, and the line is now proceeding without Buffy. That's likely why it's screwing things up now that she's back from the dead a second time, why the line has become "unstable."

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Monday, April 7, 2003 4:46 AM

LOKI16CA


I think you made an excellent point.

1.)In Two to go (6x21) When Willow and Buffy are Fighting Willow says:
"Buffy ... I gotta tell ya ... I get it now. The Slayer thing really isn't about the violence. It's about Power"
1a.)Thus bringing us to the Season Seven opener, When the first makes it appearance to spike. It says morphing from The master to Buffy"
"It's not about right. It's not about wrong. It's about POWER

2.)In i think it was After life when Buffy was Patrolling after her big resurrection, i noticed her walking past a tomb with and angel on top. And as Buffy walked past it, all you could see was the wings behind her.

3.)In Once More With Feeling (6x7) When Buffy is singing, she says:
"Still I always feel the strange eststrangement, nothing here is real, nothing here is right"
"All the twists, And bends. Knowing that It ends"

4.)In Tabula Rasa (6x8) When Michelle Branch is singing, there is a part of her song, where it says:
"Feels like I'm starting all over again
The last three years were just pretend"


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Sunday, April 13, 2003 10:50 AM

SPIKE23


Well i think the ending of buffy should see the end of anya cause she's gettin anoying her and xander should shag once more time. Buffy should get badly hurt when fighting the first and dawn steps in and fight the first and kills it.

When thats all over they should be burying anya and buffy says goodbye to angel for the last time willow and kennady should stay togeather giles says he is leaving for england and not come back ever. Dawn becomes a slayer and xander become her NEW Watcher, faith should stay in sunnydale.

AND BUFFY SHOULD QUIT BEING THE SLAYER. FOR THE ;AST TIME EVERRRRRR

Jonathan Robertson

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