A question about the music in 'Chosen', the Buffy finale... by chrisisall

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A question about the music in 'Chosen', the Buffy finale...

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
UPDATED: Monday, May 22, 2006 22:21
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Monday, May 15, 2006 8:18 AM

The final and near-epic battle was set to what sounded like an Irish melody, sweeping and grand.
Just, why Irish, is Buffy of Irish descent?
Or is Joss?
It works perfectly, just askin' is all.

Half-Irish hisself Chrisisall

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Monday, May 15, 2006 11:22 AM

CHRISISALL

*bump*
No one has a thought?

Chrisisall...?

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Monday, May 15, 2006 1:05 PM

GROUNDED

Does there have to be a reason?

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Monday, May 15, 2006 5:02 PM

SASHASRM

I also love the music from the finale. I wouldn't describe it as Irish as much as epic and yes its roots are Irish/Scottish/English.

I like the quiet

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Monday, May 15, 2006 5:02 PM

CHRISISALL

Yes! I need to know! This will haunt me for decades!

Ah. Music is music.

Forget I asked.

Got over it fast Chrisisall

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Monday, May 15, 2006 5:05 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by sashasrm:
I also love the music from the finale. I wouldn't describe it as Irish as much as epic and yes its roots are Irish/Scottish/English.

After hearing it on the menu, and in the episode, it's almost as stuck in my head as the Fruity Oaty Bar jingle...

...Make a man out of a mouse...Chrisisall
*there it goes again*

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Monday, May 15, 2006 5:12 PM

SASHASRM

Actually, maybe you can help me. I have an ear for musical scores in movies and such, and there when Joss repeats music that has only been used once or twice before I tend to notice. Like the music at the beginning of After Life when Buffy first comes home is the music from Restless.

The music from Smashed, at the end, when they start to have sex, has been bugging me forever. I know initally it is a variation on the Buffy/Angel theme, but the haunting voice that comes in at the end is from somewhere else. I think I just figured out that its from the very tend of The Wish, when everyone starts killing eachother and the Master snaps Buffy's neck. I know that you just watched all of them, do you happen to know? I haven't seen The Wish in probably 3 or 4 years and can't get my hands on Season 3.

Another example of my music OCD. Go back to Dirty girls, when Faith first attacks Spike and throws him into the gravestone. There is a short instant of the finale music for the first time in that moment and it keeps building a tiny bit from there. Because when Faith comes back, that is the beginning of the end, and where history starts to change. Forgive me, its finals, and I'm waxing philosophical about EVERYTHING!

"I like the quiet"

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Tuesday, May 16, 2006 8:41 AM

RUGBUG

Wow SASHASRM, that's much deeper into the music than I ever get. :D

My thoughts on the music pretty much amount to: "The final ep sounded like Pirates of the Caribbean." 'Course, that's just my opinion, but it has that same sweeping epic battle feel....

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Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:15 AM

SASHASRM

Actually, it can be really annoying. Because I'll hear a piece of music and it will nag at me til i get it. it's just one of the wacky but useless ways my brain works!

"i like the quiet."

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Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:15 AM

CHRISISALL

Sash, you musical memory is exta-ordinary!

I need to see Buffy a few more times Chrisisall

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:43 PM

TAMNUMBER1

The music from "Chosen" (and other parts of season 7) can be heard (and downloaded) from here: http://www.duncanmusic.com/buffy.html. A few other clips by another composer for episodes 1 and 3 are here: http://www.bleujean.com/drsprojects.html#buffy

It's my favorite of the pieces from Buffy - especially as a big Spuffy fan, because Buffy and Spike finally have a theme (and one that rivals the Buffy Angel theme, which is heartbreaking).

By the way, searching the web for pieces of the Buffy soundtrack is confusing, but you can find an awful lot out there.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Light it." - Simon, "Safe"

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:04 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Yes! I need to know! This will haunt me for decades!

Ah. Music is music.

Forget I asked.

Got over it fast Chrisisall

Man now you got me at it! Ok big C I'm going to have to watch this again.

I usually pay attention to scores and such but must admit I was so swept away at this point, that it was the last ever Buffy, that I didn't take it all in.

However if it has that Irish/folkish lilt to it perhaps it's harking back to a more primitive time , maybe to allude to the begins of the 'Slayer' lore.... Maybe *Shruggs* although that'd probably work better if it were drums......

....Damn I got nothing for you fella....

soz
The
Somnambulist

www.cirqus.com

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Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:44 PM

SASHASRM

Chrisisall: Are you telling me I was right about the Wish thing. Cause that might scare even me.

"I like the quiet."

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Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:56 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

However if it has that Irish/folkish lilt to it perhaps it's harking back to a more primitive time , maybe to allude to the begins of the 'Slayer' lore....

Yeah, Pagans, Stonehenge, the whole council in Old England...makes sense!

Cool. Chrisisall

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Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:57 PM

SPACECOWGIRL

Quote:
Originally posted by tamnumber1:
The music from "Chosen" (and other parts of season 7) can be heard (and downloaded) from here: http://www.duncanmusic.com/buffy.htm.

"The Final Fight" from Chosen is also on the 'Radio Sunnydale' soundtrack. (every Buffy fan should own this).

Quote:
Originally posted by sashasrm:
The music from Smashed, at the end, when they start to have sex, has been bugging me forever. I know initally it is a variation on the Buffy/Angel theme, but the haunting voice that comes in at the end is from somewhere else. I think I just figured out that its from the very end of The Wish, when everyone starts killing eachother and the Master snaps Buffy's neck. I know that you just watched all of them, do you happen to know? I haven't seen The Wish in probably 3 or 4 years and can't get my hands on Season 3.

I don't think it's meant to be a variation of the Bangel theme--the Smashed track was written by Thomas Wanker, the Bangel track by Christophe Beck. The instruments do sound the same though.
And I agree the voice does sound a lot like the Wish voice. Very effective in both cases.

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Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:57 PM

SPACECOWGIRL

Quote:
Originally posted by tamnumber1:
The music from "Chosen" (and other parts of season 7) can be heard (and downloaded) from here: http://www.duncanmusic.com/buffy.htm.

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Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:58 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by sashasrm:
Chrisisall: Are you telling me I was right about the Wish thing. Cause that might scare even me.

Sure sounds about right, if memory serves...I must watch 'em all again...

And you know that I will Chrisisall

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Sunday, May 21, 2006 7:40 PM

SASHASRM

i just re-watched "The Wish." Very similiar, enough for me to have made connection. But I don't think its the same.

"Occasionally I'm callous and strange."

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Monday, May 22, 2006 10:21 PM

SASHASRM

yes i'm obsessive. because i've listened to them back to back. and if it isn't the same music, i'm convinced Joss said to someone: "Use this for a guide, it's what I want but a little different."

and now I'm dropping it. I swear.

for the record: both of them are probably my fav music from buffy. except the end of chosen. and i have some theories on where that was borrowed from as well. NOT Buffy. I'll get back to you when I have more info.

Oh, Chrisisall, why did you ask this question? WHY?

"Occasionally I'm callous and strange."

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