VERONICA MARS cancelled--The CW wants to display their *CRAP* banner proudly!!! by jwhedonaddict

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VERONICA MARS cancelled--The CW wants to display their *CRAP* banner proudly!!!

POSTED BY: JWHEDONADDICT
UPDATED: Monday, May 21, 2007 05:11
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Thursday, May 3, 2007 10:58 AM

Edit 5/18/07: Hope the CW is as happy as the WB was in cancelling ANGEL and Fox was in cancelling FIREFLY. This is just as devastating to me. Just like with ANGEL season five, when things were looking up and most believed that it would return, that's when they yank it away.

Edit 5/10/07: I've recently read on both TVGuide (Michael Ausseilo's blog) and Zap2it.com that the CW head was pretty impressed by the presentation of FBI Veronica and the chances have improved of it coming back. Sounds like there will be major cast changes (obviously) with Kristen Bell the only guaranteed return. Also, the title will likely change, too.

So, far as I'm concerned, YAY!!!
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"Drew isn't that talented. He just gets away with stuff because he's cute."--David Fury on Drew Goddard
"Our fate has to be our own, or we're nothing."--Angel
"In Joss We Trust."

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Thursday, May 3, 2007 11:22 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

I'm trying desperately not to freak over this. The ep. from the other night reminded me once again how much I love this show and these characters. God, I hope we don't lose them!! I would love it either way, if the show continued as it is, or flash-forwarded to FBI Veronica. I would miss the rest of the cast of course but doubt they wouldn't find some way to allow them to pop up now and again so we can see how they all turned out four years later.

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"Drew isn't that talented. He just gets away with stuff because he's cute."--David Fury on Drew Goddard
"Our fate has to be our own, or we're nothing."--Angel
"In Joss We Trust."

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Thursday, May 3, 2007 12:14 PM

INSANESPIKE

What I had heard originally (quite q while back, I might add) was that it came down to either VM or GG getting renewed. If one was renewed, the other would be gone. Honestly, I'm hoping that's still the case, because that would mean VM wins lol.

But if they do cancel it....I'll be done with the CW as soon as Smallville is over. Just like I'll be done with F*X is they ever get rid of Bones.

"How drunk was I last night?"

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Saturday, May 5, 2007 2:06 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

Yep, heard that one, too. But I've heard other things since then, so I don't know.

There was a recent poll done by Kristen from EOnline (a regular thing for her), where she picked a group of doomed shows and asked people to vote on which one they'd save. This poll has been done (I think) six years up til now and Kristen sends the responses and the poll results to the networks of that show to try to help save it. Five shows out of the last 6 that won were brought back (I'm guessing the one that didn't make it was ANGEL because it was hugely popular on that board at the time). Anyway, Veronica was the clear winner of this years poll, until last minute Gilmore fans chimed in and won out. The results were still close, I think, because Kristen ended up declaring a tie even though GG was ahead slightly. She was going to send the results on behalf of both shows. Well, we know now it didn't help GG, so I'm wondering if it helped Veronica.

Then again, the decision to end GG possibly could have been more about the cast not wanting to continue than the network wanting it to end.

BTW, if you like to be spoiled, go to Spoilerfix.com. There's some interesting stuff coming up, especially regarding Logan/Veronica/Piz. I'm no shipper, but I'm definitely excited to see what happens here!

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"Drew isn't that talented. He just gets away with stuff because he's cute."--David Fury on Drew Goddard
"Our fate has to be our own, or we're nothing."--Angel
"In Joss We Trust."

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Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:08 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

Again, YAY!!!

And loved Tuesdays ep. Logan's bound to be up to no good now that Veronica and Piz (or Pez, according to Paul Rudd's character) are getting serious.

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"Drew isn't that talented. He just gets away with stuff because he's cute."--David Fury on Drew Goddard
"Our fate has to be our own, or we're nothing."--Angel
"In Joss We Trust."

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Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:16 AM

CONSTANCE

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Originally posted by jwhedonaddict:

So, far as I'm concerned, YAY!!!
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Me too! YAY*2!!

Constance

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Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:37 AM

CHAPTERANDVERSE

Hey,
I am over in Ireland and can only watch Veronica on DVD. I got the first season due to Joss's recommendation (that sounds like we were having a chat one day over drinks!!) and I am absolutely loving it.
I am delighted to hear that a brilliant, excellently written show with wonderful characters may actually survive for once.

Have already ordered the second season.

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Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:39 AM

ZEEK

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Originally posted by chapterandverse:
I am delighted to hear that a brilliant, excellently written show with wonderful characters may actually survive for once.

Is it bad if I tell you that comment makes a lot more sense considering you haven't seen any of the 3rd season? Well ignorance is bliss. Enjoy it while it lasts.

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Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:47 PM

HUGHFF

I read that Gilmore ended because Lauren G and Alexis B basically said they were done. TBH it was in its death roll when Amy SP went. I can't say I watched more than a couple of times but it was often witty.

VM I've loved from day one. The first season screened in prime time here in NZ and I loved it. Then nothing for 18 months. Suddenly TVNZ brings back the second season two weeks ago at 3.00pm on a Sunday. WTF? I have to set the machine to record it and watch it later in the week. Insanity.

www.cpfc.org - my life
www.nbhs.school.nz - my work

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Friday, May 11, 2007 12:23 AM

CHAPTERANDVERSE

Zeek: Is it bad if I tell you that comment makes a lot more sense considering you haven't seen any of the 3rd season? Well ignorance is bliss. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Aw dont say that! Does it really deteriorate that much?

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Friday, May 11, 2007 10:38 AM

ZEEK

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Originally posted by chapterandverse:
Aw dont say that! Does it really deteriorate that much?

Well the friends that I watch it with all agree that this season has been pretty terrible. They changed the format of one over arching mystery to two shorter ones with a period of stand alone episodes at the end of the season. In the middle of all this most of Veronica's high school friends have fallen off the charts. I actually laughed thinking about the theme song "a long time ago we used to be friends" cause yeah they don't really seem much like friends these days.

Other people aren't nearly as down on it as we are though. So, maybe it's just not my cup of tea. It might be fine for you. So, give it a shot at least.

Season 2 was pretty good IMO. So, at least you have that to go on.

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Saturday, May 12, 2007 12:35 AM

PAINTITBLACK

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Originally posted by Zeek:
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Originally posted by chapterandverse:
Aw dont say that! Does it really deteriorate that much?

Well the friends that I watch it with all agree that this season has been pretty terrible. They changed the format of one over arching mystery to two shorter ones with a period of stand alone episodes at the end of the season. Season 2 was pretty good IMO. So, at least you have that to go on.

Well, Thanks Zeek but it sounds like its kind of taken a dive. No, my blissful ignorance has been shattered!!
At least there were two good seasons. Firefly never had the chance to suck (Not that it ever would have ;)

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Saturday, May 12, 2007 4:00 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

The producers decided to change the original season-long mystery format to 3 shorter mystery arcs to make it easier for new viewers to jump in, and also please the network. They did two of them like that, but the ratings didn't improve overall, so they decided to scrap the final arc, and do the remainder of the season as stand-alones. I admit I prefer the season-long mystery myself (even though it can be more than a bit contrived to have every year), but I still don't consider season 3 to be terrible--Zeek is just too damn critical over a lot of things I think (j/k)

! The show may not be as compelling this way, but at least it's still got the sharp writing, the humor and the characters I've come to adore! I will take it in any form as long as those key elements remain. If that's what matters more to you in the long run, you won't be disappointed in season 3. If it helps your decision to purchase the season 3 dvd's in the future (despite Zeek's description I mean), a long-running character is shockingly killed off a little more than halfway through the season.

That said, don't forget to watch for little clues throughout Season 2 for the killer's identity. I really tried, and I was still stunned in the end. (Though most of that may have been denial)

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"Drew isn't that talented. He just gets away with stuff because he's cute."--David Fury on Drew Goddard
"Our fate has to be our own, or we're nothing."--Angel
"In Joss We Trust."

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Friday, May 18, 2007 5:04 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

I really really hate this network just as much as the WB.

Will only watch it again if it's the only way Joss gets another tv job.
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"Drew isn't that talented. He just gets away with stuff because he's cute."--David Fury on Drew Goddard
"Our fate has to be our own, or we're nothing."--Angel
"In Joss We Trust."

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Friday, May 18, 2007 6:18 AM

ZEEK

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Originally posted by jwhedonaddict:
The show may not be as compelling this way, but at least it's still got the sharp writing, the humor and the characters I've come to adore!

I disagree with all of these claims.

Select to view spoiler:

sharp writing? Veronica becomes a teaching assistant of a course she's enrolled in. The logic train jumped the tracks a lot in season 3. This is just one simple example. Characters we adore? Wallace is as much a cameo character as backup these days. Humor? That's harder to show examples of, but it's not on par either IMO.

Anyway this isn't the point of the thread. I've still heard VM has a chance of a 4th season. So, we're not totally dead yet.

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Friday, May 18, 2007 7:33 AM

JAHZARA

So don't want to be the bearer of bad news.

Veronica Mars is dead.

There's interviews on TV Guide.com's with Rob Thomas. It's been official since yesterday.

As sad as I am, I now have clarity. I will not be watching the CW anymore. For any reason.

I'm just so disgusted.

God. It feels like 2002.

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Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:59 PM

JWHEDONADDICT

Zeek: very minor flaws in the overall scheme of things, in my opinion. There's no such thing as a show without some errors here and there, including Joss's...that doesn't mean the whole thing is crap, necessarily. Those things just don't bother me as much as they clearly bother you. Which is fine. You're entitled to your opinion as much as I'm entitled to mine. Also the characters I was referring to mainly were Veronica, Logan and Keith anyway. Others were unfortunately put on the backburner, and that was probably the biggest disappointment overall to me. But at least they were there. I would've been more than okay with the cast being cut for a fourth season, so that when they did show up again, it was important and more meaningful.

I'm glad that Rob Thomas did what he could to save the show, even if it meant making a few mistakes along the way. I'm also glad Joss was willing to lighten Mal up and create Niska to please FOX execs...even though darker Mal is much more interesting and Niska was more than a little over the top. Otherwise we wouldn't've gotten the show at all.

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"Drew isn't that talented. He just gets away with stuff because he's cute."--David Fury on Drew Goddard
"Our fate has to be our own, or we're nothing."--Angel
"In Joss We Trust."

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Sunday, May 20, 2007 11:06 PM

JWHEDONADDICT

Jahzara: why it couldn't've been pushed to mid-season at least, I still don't understand. This is just SO wrong.

I have no interest in the CW's current or future shows other than VM. I'm two years behind on GG anyway so I'd rather just catch the reruns on ABCFamily. The ONLY exception would be if Joss is somehow involved with the CW.

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"Drew isn't that talented. He just gets away with stuff because he's cute."--David Fury on Drew Goddard
"Our fate has to be our own, or we're nothing."--Angel
"In Joss We Trust."

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Monday, May 21, 2007 5:11 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

read this after I posted this morning...apparently, although VM is dead, the FBI version (to be renamed if picked up) is not officially dead yet. Michael Auseillo said that the head of the CW told him that June 15 is the deadline for that decision, although it doesn't look likely to happen. Apparently it's because that's when Kristen Bell officially moves on to other things.

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"Drew isn't that talented. He just gets away with stuff because he's cute."--David Fury on Drew Goddard
"Our fate has to be our own, or we're nothing."--Angel
"In Joss We Trust."

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