For the boys (and some girls)...the cover of Season 8 #9 by jwhedonaddict

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Originally posted by jwhedonaddict:

I personally didn't care for it myself though.

It's not actual nudity, and as such, I'd be okay with my eight-year old seein' it.
But there is some blood in these comics that I wouldn't want him to see...

GREAT COVER!!!!

Chenfan Chrisisall

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 7:56 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Pffff.

What can you say. It's ok artwork but a little beneath the regular Buffy fan.

Not offended by it, but it just seems a little cheap n easy for a comic to do that.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:30 AM

The thing I like most about it is--forget the nudity for a moment and just focus on her face--it's Jo Chen's best job capturing Eliza's likeness, IMO. That looks so much like her it's scary, and my first reaction when seeing it a few weeks ago was to wonder what Eliza's feelings will be about it when she finally sees it. I doubt she's been reading these comics

, but it'll get back to her somehow. She's been so adamant about not doing nude scenes in any of her movies, that this just made me wonder what she'd think of it...

As for the cover itself and whether the nudity is or isn't necessary, I don't have a problem with it. Thematically, it seems to make sense. She's burning the fancy dress she wore to infiltrate Lady Savidge's high society world. We still don't know how she'll have to be forced to deal with her in the end, so if she did actually have to kill her, this could be her symbolically trying to put this chapter of her life behind her and emerge fresh into something new, and hopefully better. In essence, being re-born...

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Wednesday, September 19, 2007 4:18 AM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Pffff.

What can you say. It's ok artwork but a little beneath the regular Buffy fan.

But the cover for #8 is awesome, no?

Easy Chrisisall

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Wednesday, September 19, 2007 4:33 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Hey Big 'C' how you doing?

Well I prefered the previous cover. Maybe it's my overly critical cartoonist eye coming through, but the pose feels all false and lacking any kind of weight. Looks as if the head has been directly traced (nothing wrong with that) and then the body and pose is an after thought. Face expression is bland and lacking any real communication of what's going on around her. That said I'd love to be able to illustrate as well as Chen does but it irks me to see great skill being wasted. I mean what happened to her right arm ?

Flames are good though. That must have taken some time.

Select to view spoiler:

Giant Dawn rules!

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Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:05 AM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

Giant Dawn rules!

That was brilliant. The look on her face was fab.

Some of the Faith faces in her first issue were a little rushed, it seems. Too much droop in the eyes and mouth. Giles had a more consistant look to him IMO.

Critiquing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:22 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Incidently dood.

Kick ass! Little avatar you got going there! Lee rules!

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Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:56 PM

I haven't been that impressed by jo chen's covers... they do have bits that are brilliant and faultless but they're just bits, and then right next to the good bit they'll be something dreadful that really jars... it's too cut 'n' pasted. the somnambulist said further up about the faith one that it looked like the face had been traced and the rest was an afterthought and I think that's spot on. same with a couple of the buffy ones, the head and body just don't seem to belong to each other. actually they reminded me of those pictures you see on the web where someone has grafted sarah michelle geller's head on to some pornstar body and is passing it off as real

which leads me on to the #7 cover, I don't have a problem with the nudity in #8 but I completely have a problem with faith's figure in that one with giles, this isn't some fantasy made up character (ok that souds wrong, but you know what I mean

) it's supposed to be based on a real character played by a real actress who's beautiful and sexy and they go and stick her with ugly, superfake, blow-up hooters. imagine fighting evil with those things flapping around? I don't think so...

I'm also reminded of something that I think was in the introduction to fray (or it was something joss said about fray) that he was tired of the girls in comics being unrealistic, massive-breasted clones... what happened dude?

I'm not saying that the comics should be super-realistic, I know it's a different thing, a different medium, and some charicaturing is inevitable but I still want our characters to look like our characters, and not like their heads have been stuck on a generic body

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Friday, September 21, 2007 8:20 AM

Did I hear the word 'porn' mentioned in connection with the Joss-'Verse???

Bad, EVIL Chrisisall

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Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:00 AM

her head's just been stuck on

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Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:41 AM

Chris, you're not criticizing her for that appearance, are you? After all, for all the $$ she spent on those puppies, can you blame her for wanting to show them off?

What a turnoff...

All-natural Grooisall

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Saturday, September 22, 2007 11:03 AM

plus, imagine how much photoshopping's been done on that picture...

http://demo.fb.se/e/girlpower/retouch/retouch/index.html

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Sunday, September 23, 2007 5:25 AM

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destroyingchris'sfantasiesisall

You are an evil woman, Charlie!

Chrisisall

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Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:01 AM

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You are an evil woman, Charlie!

Chrisisall

moi?

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Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:07 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

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Originally posted by jwhedonaddict:

I personally didn't care for it myself though.

It's not actual nudity, and as such, I'd be okay with my eight-year old seein' it.
But there is some blood in these comics that I wouldn't want him to see...

GREAT COVER!!!!

Okay, okay. I'll quit pooh-poohing about it. But did you check out my thread on the Angel board about the covers of After the Fall #2?

I'm really disliking all the covers for Angel so far.

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Sunday, September 23, 2007 10:43 AM

I've just ccome across this one for #8, I'm liking this:

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Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:13 AM

Funny--#8 is the only Chen cover so far that I don't really care for. Buffy's face looks weird, and not just in an "I'm being drowned" kinda way

. I also don't like the mostly-white background--makes it look unfinished somehow.

Actually, I guess that makes three Chen covers that I'm kinda

about--#8, and the covers of the first two TPBs. I have the same complaint about the "Long Way Home" as #8: too light a background, making the whole thing look unfinished. The "No Future for You" one has a cool concept, and Buffy is done really well, but there's something very odd about Faith's mouth...

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Sunday, September 23, 2007 12:42 PM

MARK

Groosalugg... No spoilers but that isn't Buffy being drowned. Sure there's a slight familiarity but it's not her.

JWhedonAddict, Faith isn't nude in that cover. She's wearing a strapless, fleshtone, bra. If you look closely at the line of the lower curve of the breast then you'll see it's artificial. Nobody's body looks like that and these artists are too good to make a mistake like that.

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Twelve spheres of unendurable brightness spalled the velvety blackness of space.
The silence on Lester Tourville's flag bridge was absolute
And then the spell was broken as Shannon Foraker looked up from her console from where she had just sent a seemingly innocent command to the main computers of State Security's finest Superdreadnoughts.
"Oops." She said.

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Sunday, September 23, 2007 2:39 PM

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JWhedonAddict, Faith isn't nude in that cover. She's wearing a strapless, fleshtone, bra. If you look closely at the line of the lower curve of the breast then you'll see it's artificial. Nobody's body looks like that and these artists are too good to make a mistake like that.

hmm... I don't buy it, I can't see any lines, and, if you're talking realism, even if there were, a strapless bra wouldn't look like that, they tend to be bulkier and a lot less supportive than strappy ones, she still wouldn't be that rounded and perky

I think she's nekkid...

and how do you know it's not buffy, have you read it?

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Sunday, September 23, 2007 2:43 PM

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Originally posted by charliethebloody:
I think she's nekkid...

I concur.
And that's always a good thing (like when Anya went into Spikes room and he was almost that way except for a little bit O' sheet

)

Not that I notice stuff like that Chrisisall

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Sunday, September 23, 2007 2:48 PM

mmm...

plus I've already ranted about the unrealness of #7 so I won't again, but I think this is much more realistic (and sexier) than that

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Sunday, September 23, 2007 4:27 PM

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Originally posted by Mark:
Groosalugg... No spoilers but that isn't Buffy being drowned. Sure there's a slight familiarity but it's not her.

From what I've read elsewhere, Jo Chen had the artwork up on her myspace page, entitled "Faith vs. Buffy".

And as far as any "flesh-colored bra" goes, Scott Allie--the editor--said in an interview a couple of weeks before the #9 cover was released that an upcoming cover featured nudity. If it were a real photo, then yeah, obviously you'd put the actress in something like that if you could possibly get away with it, but why the heck would you even bother on a painting?! And like Charlie said, I don't see any lines, either--just a couple of very strategically-placed (and conveniently 100% opaque) flames...

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Monday, September 24, 2007 4:38 AM