After 'The Gift' - no new slayer? by RichSn

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After 'The Gift' - no new slayer?

POSTED BY: RICHSN
UPDATED: Saturday, August 23, 2008 17:27
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Friday, January 25, 2008 2:06 PM

Hi there. I'm a long time Firefly fan (back from when it ran on Fox) but I'm new to the world of Buffy.

I just bought the full series on DVD and I am rapidly working my way through it. However, I have a question which I can't seem to find any info on. After Buffy died in 'The Gift', how come no new slayer appeared? Was this because Faith was still alive? However, Faith is a creature of evil (yeah I know she is saved by Angel - I'm watching those episodes also via NetFlix), so does she count?

Anyway, I was just wondering if people had thoughts about this.

- Rich

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Friday, January 25, 2008 3:17 PM

GROOSALUGG

It's never addressed on-screen, but around that time (early S6-ish) in an interview some of the writers explained that the mojo that causes the activation of each new slayer passed to Kendra after Buffy died, then to Faith when Kendra was killed. So as far as the mystical forces that control the thing are concerned, Faith is the one and only slayer (how she chooses to use those powers doesn't matter)...

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Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:42 AM

EMBERS

um... have you watched 'Chosen' yet?
LOL

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Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:09 AM

DRE

Groo's right.

After Buffy "dies" in 1.13 Prophecy Girl, Kendra becomes the next Slayer. But Xander brings Buffy back via the CPR thing, so that wonks the line. Essentially, Buffy is the anomoly to the Slayer line.

After Kendra dies, the line moves through Faith. So Faith (no matter her "alignment") is the one who would have to die before the new Slayer is chosen.

Buffy's death in The Gift is inconsequential then in the whole Slayer line. It's part of the schtick that Buffy's role as Slayer is completely altered, because she does things so different - most Slayers don't have time for relationships with anyone like Buffy, and having friends to save/fight with her is not in the Watcher Handbook.

IKIYO.
DRE

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Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:59 PM

GROOSALUGG

Quote:
Originally posted by embers:
um... have you watched 'Chosen' yet?
LOL

Were you asking me? Because yes, I have--but since it sounded like the original poster hadn't, I was trying to stay spoiler-free.

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Sunday, January 27, 2008 4:45 AM

EMBERS

Quote:
Originally posted by Groosalugg:
since it sounded like the original poster hadn't, I was trying to stay spoiler-free.

Oh my, I hadn't picked up on that! (hides face in shame)

Sorry Rich! So to get back into Season 5/6 mind set....
yes, Buffy's 'replacement' has already been called...
only Faith counts now (a Slayer going 'bad' doesn't knock her out of the pantheon)

And Faith is being a good girl in jail...
remember when Angel goes to check on her and has to confess that he had to sing for Loren?

It is definitely good to keep up with the 'Angel' episodes because there will be interaction again when you get to Buffy's Season 7 and Angel's Season 4!

These are such great shows, it makes me happy that Firefly/Serenity fans are discovering them.

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Sunday, January 27, 2008 9:45 AM

GROOSALUGG

Quote:
Originally posted by embers:
Oh my, I hadn't picked up on that! (hides face in shame)

You're hereby sentenced to say 5 "If we want her to be exactly she'll never be exactly I know the only really-real Buffy is really Buffy and she's gone who?"s...

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Sunday, January 27, 2008 9:54 AM

EMBERS

Quote:
Originally posted by Groosalugg:

You're hereby sentenced to say 5 "If we want her to be exactly she'll never be exactly I know the only really-real Buffy is really Buffy and she's gone who?"s... [tongue]

I just loved SMG as the Buffybot! Such a wonderful, funny, performance...

So I hope Rich is enjoying season 6, because I really really loved a lot about it
the musical
the evil nerds
the Doublemeat Palace
LOL

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Sunday, January 27, 2008 9:43 PM

GROOSALUGG

Quote:
Originally posted by embers:
I just loved SMG as the Buffybot! Such a wonderful, funny, performance...

The only time she ever came close to being as consistently funny over the length of an episode (as opposed to just a great line here or there: "And afterwards I get a cookie") was as CaveSlayer. "Want more singing! Want more beer!"

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Sunday, January 27, 2008 9:55 PM

EMBERS

Quote:
Originally posted by Groosalugg:
was as CaveSlayer. "Want more singing! Want more beer!"

yes, that was one of the things I loved about 'Bear Bad' - Buffy was VERY funny in that...

but I thought she was pretty hilarious in 'Pangs' too, she was kind of constantly channeling Martha Stewart and forgetting about her slayer duties....

Oh and 'Something Blue' was pretty hysterically funny too!

You can see why I like Season 4 so much.

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Monday, January 28, 2008 3:24 PM

RICHSN

Yes. I'm enjoying season 6. I just finished Smashed (ep 9). 'Once more with feeling' was tremendous. My wife, who tolerates my current Buffy obsession, watched it with me and she also enjoyed. That's saying a lot considering that she has a NY theater background.

As for Angel, I'm a little behind. I'm still in season 1. I just finished 'Sanctuary'. Too much to view and too little time.

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Tuesday, January 29, 2008 8:36 AM

CHRISISALL

Am I the only one here that liked Buffy VS. Dracula (S5, E1)?

Chrisisall

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Tuesday, January 29, 2008 8:40 AM

RICHSN

I thought Xander made a wonderful Renfield. I couldn't stop laughing.

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Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:55 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Groosalugg:
"Want more singing! Want more beer!"

Beer Bad was a good ep.

I miss that show...

At least the comic gives me a Buffy fix....

Addictedisall

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Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:10 AM

WESLEY4EVER

(RICHSN)
I envey you so much. I have seen and read everything Joss has created so many times that I can barely stand to look at it any more. I would give anything to be back at the begining. Can't wait for his new show Dollhouse to air.

P.S. Just wait untill later in Angel. Wesley becomes a real character, and a much more interesting one than Angel, instead of just comic releif like he was on Buffy. He is the main reason I watched the later seasons of Angel.

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Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:25 AM

EMBERS

Quote:
Originally posted by wesley4ever:
(RICHSN)
I envy you so much. I have seen and read everything Joss has created so many times that I can barely stand to look at it any more. I would give anything to be back at the beginning.

I've had the fun to turn on a couple of friends,
where I would be rewatching the series (ALL of the serieses) with a friend who was seeing it all for the first time...
and it is SO much fun to get to enjoy their shock and surprise at every new development.

All of these really hold up to viewing many times, and I do see different things according to what is going on in my life.

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Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:21 PM

BLUEREDGREEN

Wait... in season 7 all the potentials talk about how if Buffy dies one of them will become the next slayer, if the Faith being the only one thing is true, would it change if Buffy died again?

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Saturday, August 23, 2008 4:31 PM

EMBERS

Quote:
Originally posted by Blueredgreen:
Wait... in season 7 all the potentials talk about how if Buffy dies one of them will become the next slayer, if the Faith being the only one thing is true, would it change if Buffy died again?

I think that that was a sign that the potentials were being lied to...
they didn't know about Faith at that time (she doesn't show up until later)
they hadn't even been told about Kendra....
so I figured the writers were saying that long time fans knew the truth but the potentials were guessing without any information.

New Firefly fans should check this out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=15816

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Saturday, August 23, 2008 5:27 PM

OPPYH

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Am I the only one here that liked Buffy VS. Dracula (S5, E1)?

Chrisisall

Yup, season 5 sucked!!!

Just kidding

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