End of Days/Chosen- a rant on Buffy's finale..WITH EXPLETIVES and foaming, at the mouth... by chrisisall

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End of Days/Chosen- a rant on Buffy's finale..WITH EXPLETIVES and foaming, at the mouth...

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
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Monday, January 29, 2007 4:54 AM

CHRISISALL

Not enough Xander?

He was great, and a central part of the finale!!!
Not enough Willow?

(see above!!!)
Everyone folded their arms too much?

So it was a little chilly in Sunnydale before an apocalypse!
If you hated the way Buffy ended, all I can say is

!!!!!!!!!
It was BETTER than Angel's ending!!! No?

You liked the way she died in season five, and think that should have been the end?

!!!!!!!
Joss did right by us in the end, and I can't wait for season eight (The comic), and if you disagree with any part of what I'm saying, then like we say on the RWED,

, the horse you rode in on, and the Capisin 38 engine in your next transport!!!!!!

There can be no other view here but mine, period.

Chrisisall

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Monday, January 29, 2007 5:15 AM

SHANNARA

all i can say is: huh?

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Monday, January 29, 2007 5:22 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Shannara:
all i can say is: huh?

(makin' me explain sorta makes me lose the momentum of my uber-angry tantrum...this is in response to all the posts I've ever read here that trash season seven, I pose that the good FAR outweighs the bad, and it's why the last season is my favourite, along with three...excuse me while I get back in character for this thread, Shannara

)

Yeah, okay, the Potentials WERE a bit scream-y, BUT IN THE END THEY KICKED ASS!!!!! If you all weren't IMPRESSED by them as the flung demons back into the pit from which they came,

!!!!

Chrisisall, rabid and fierce!

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Monday, January 29, 2007 6:01 AM

SHANNARA

sorry, i'm ill today, your post wasn't clear in my fogged thought process.

i thoroughly enjoyed season 7 myself :D

but when bomb go boom, she should never have gotten up. would have been way cooler. c'mon joss, you of all people! a little too star trekish.

it was like the all war season, no distractions, no beer bad diversions, it was wonderful.

ps. trying not to give too much away so as to spoil it.... ;)

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Monday, January 29, 2007 6:17 AM

DEEPGIRL187

I'll try not to be too much of a target for Chrisisall's gunsights, but here goes:

I am an unabashed lover of Angel season five (next to season two, it's my favorite), so I won't say season seven is better. But I will say that I think the reason Joss gave Buffy a more "up" ending is to balance out the ending of Angel (or the other way around, since Buffy came first). And I won't say season seven was the worst season like others might. I think that barring season one, that distinction goes to season six.

My incessant rambling aside, I guess I fall into the neutral category regarding season seven. Neither love nor hate it.

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Monday, January 29, 2007 6:56 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by deepgirl187:
And I won't say season seven was the worst season like others might. I think that barring season one, that distinction goes to season six.

My incessant rambling aside, I guess I fall into the neutral category regarding season seven. Neither love nor hate it.

Six was great in it's own way, Deep, so

!!!!
And you don't have to love the entire season to see that Buffy's finale was GOLD!!! You think it was merely silver?

!!!

Like Andrew on the Dark Side Chrisisall

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Monday, January 29, 2007 7:02 AM

GROUNDED

I don't get it...

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Monday, January 29, 2007 7:19 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Grounded:
I don't get it...

Oh, you GET it, all right; season seven was GREAT, you and your kind pretend it wasn't...you pin it all on some "Potentials took over", and "Buffy's all bad mood-y", and "Not funny enough", and, well, whatever...well I just watched the last two eps last night, and they were funny and sad and action-y and touching....

to all who blind themselves to it's excellence!!!!!

Seething, hell-hound-like Chrisisall

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Monday, January 29, 2007 7:28 AM

SINGATE

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
...season seven was GREAT, you and your kind pretend it wasn't...

Spoiling for another flame war eh?

The best thing about S7 was watching Caleb dismantle the scoobies at the vineyard, while elimating several of those annoying potentials.

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Monday, January 29, 2007 7:40 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by singate:

Spoiling for another flame war eh?

I gots the napalm...

Quote:

The best thing about S7 was watching Caleb dismantle the scoobies at the vineyard, while elimating several of those annoying potentials.

A great and powerful scene, yes, but your snarky attempt to backhandedly compliment it is ineffective, as are your sensibilities if you don't like the finale.

and your T-38 young Skywalker!

Seven RULED Chrisisall

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Monday, January 29, 2007 7:52 AM

WRATCHIT

Anything with Eliza Dushku is worth watching.

ANYTHING.

Yes, even 'That 70's Show'.

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Monday, January 29, 2007 7:57 AM

SINGATE

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Seven RULED Chrisisall

So you've finally accepted the truth: The movie Seven ruled. Oh, you meant season 7 of Buffy, your sad devotion to that finale is quite amusing. I did enjoy watching Anya die and Spike would have stayed dead if he knew how badly his time on Angel was going to suck.

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Monday, January 29, 2007 8:00 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by wratchit:
Anything with Eliza Dushku is worth watching.

ANYTHING.

You see the truth.

Momentarily happy Chrisisall

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Monday, January 29, 2007 8:05 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by singate:
your sad devotion to that finale is quite amusing. I did enjoy watching Anya die and Spike would have stayed dead if he knew how badly his time on Angel was going to suck.

Were I a vengence demon I would sit you in front of a TV unable to move or look away from Beer Bad playing over and over while you piss in your pants from an endless IV of Mountain Dew.

Spike and Anya were good in all thier appearances!!!!
Biped.

Johnny 'Chrisisall' Storm

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Monday, January 29, 2007 8:37 AM

22CLAWS

Entirely pointy.

I've been rewatching season seven all week. I agree, it has some of the strongest episodes of the series. I didn't mind the potentials a bit, and like you said they came through in the end.
If I had any complaint, it would be that the finale was just one hour. For a show this important, it would have been great to have more.

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Monday, January 29, 2007 8:45 AM

SINGATE

Chris,

Now that I've got you all worked up, foaming at the mouth and such, let me just say...PSYCH!!! While S7 is not my favorite it sure as hell isn't the worst season by a long shot.

I thoroughly enjoyed Anya's inept social skills and Spike was one of the best characters on any show I've ever watched. I will say that I prefer evil Spike to lovestruck Spike.

Gotchaisall

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Monday, January 29, 2007 9:26 AM

YINYANG

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:

Biped.

Chris, man, I expect better from you. Come on - biped? That's what people are - animals that have two feet.

You're lame, and you can keep your Buffy Season 7 ('cause Buffy coming back to life...

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Monday, January 29, 2007 9:28 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by singate:

Gotchaisall

But seeing Spike all out for good, really appreciating his friends- and Buffy, whom he truly loves as a human being and not just a lust object, was a mind boggling character transformation....I mean, YA BETTER AGREE WITH ME GORAMMIT

GotmeChrisisall

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Monday, January 29, 2007 9:33 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by yinyang:

You're lame, and you can keep your Buffy Season 7 ('cause Buffy coming back to life... ).

, you dork! The end of that particular Hellmouth was the event of a lifetime!!!
Go drown your sorrows in the season 5 finale!!!!

Chrisisall, feeling the evil

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Monday, January 29, 2007 9:36 AM

YINYANG

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.

Or, maybe it should have ended after Willow went evil (and then got better)... Hmm.

Oh, by the way - I'm rubber and you're glue: everything you say bounces off me and sticks to you! Take that!

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Monday, January 29, 2007 9:41 AM

MSG

Wow you certainly are getting a lot of mileage out of the finger emote LOL
Hey I loved season 6 and thought the end was great, but we hardly need to resort to violence. Just smile and say " good to know" when someone disagrees. Then you've acknowledged them and not agreed or disagreed just moved past since their opinion is of no consequence to you and the reverse is true for them

Relax Chris honey passion is good, but you're gonna have a stroke if you keep this up:)

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs

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Monday, January 29, 2007 9:46 AM

EMBERS

Quote:
Originally posted by deepgirl187:
I'll try not to be too much of a target for Chrisisall's gunsights, but here goes:

I am an unabashed lover of Angel season five (next to season two, it's my favorite), so I won't say season seven is better. But I will say that I think the reason Joss gave Buffy a more "up" ending is to balance out the ending of Angel (or the other way around, since Buffy came first). And I won't say season seven was the worst season

except that Buffy's S7 ending preceeded Angel's by a year, so at the time Buffy ended they didn't anticipate Angel needing to end at all...
Joss was hoping to continue to run Angel for several more years and was surprised it was cancelled so soon....

IMO Buffy would have always have an upbeat ending because she was earning her rest. Her's was a shiny happy victory.

Angel would have always expected to have to continue fighting, there were never going to be any victories for him because it was all predicated upon the evil he had done before and his continuing need for redemption....
So we had two very different endings for two very different heroes.

And of course I've failed to keep up the angry ranting tone that ChrisIsAll set... so we'll belatedly add:

and

I feel that the people who are still whining about the potentials need to rewatch Season 7, the fact is that even though there were a lot of them, very few of them got to speak... Our scoobie gang was still front and center. Andrew may have taken up more time on-screen, but personally I loved him and felt he had so much to offer, that I welcomed his contributions.

And people objected to the actors folding their arms too much? WTF?

so... er ... does that fit w/the whole theme of this thread?

(embers trying to fit in w/the cool kids)

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Monday, January 29, 2007 10:40 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by yinyang:

Oh, by the way - I'm rubber and you're glue: everything you say bounces off me and sticks to you! Take that!

Chrisisall

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Monday, January 29, 2007 10:53 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:

Relax Chris honey passion is good, but you're gonna have a stroke if you keep this up:)

You'r right, I need to de-stress...Chrisisall

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Monday, January 29, 2007 10:57 AM

EMBERS

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
Hey I loved season 6 and thought the end was great, but we hardly need to resort to violence.

er
I thought the WHOLE point of this thread was to resort to violence?!

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Monday, January 29, 2007 11:00 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Our scoobie gang was still front and center.

Having just finished Buffy (again, fifth time-?) I see more humour, more dialogue, more comradary (sp-?), more of what makes Buffy Buffy, and I understand how some might miss that first time around (so much is happening), and maybe not remember it well for that- - uh, I mean...

to those that resist seeing it!!!!!
Buncha jerks!!!

Chrisisall, no silly silly British man

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Monday, January 29, 2007 11:06 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by embers:

I thought the WHOLE point of this thread was to resort to violence?!

Just to beat senseless those who disagree with us!!!

all!!!

Hey... look at the cool thing I found-

How could anyone not like that season too??

GRRRRRChrisisallARGGGG

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Monday, January 29, 2007 11:20 AM

EMBERS

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
I understand how some might miss that first time around (so much is happening), and maybe not remember it well for that- - uh, I mean... to those that resist seeing it!!!!!
Buncha jerks!!!

I think most of the people were watching BtVS S7 through a filter of their own fan-crush/favorites:
the James Marsters fans weren't satisfied w/his screen time and the fact that Buffy didn't marry him
The Nick Brendon fans weren't satisfied with HIS screen time, and the fact that Buffy didn't ever date him
The Gay fans were totally freaked out that Tara died and didn't want Willow moving on (although I'll bet they'd have hated it more if Oz returned! At least Kennedy was also Gay)
everyone wanted THEIR ship to come in....

now (years later) they are over the resentments and ship wars, but they still haven't rewatched the season!
does that make sense to you?

oh and by the way

Chrisisall

I found the season 6 icon, not you!

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Monday, January 29, 2007 11:37 AM

ZEEK

Season 7 wasn't all bad. Dawn was getting friggin hot. I mean seriously her first day of school outfit? yummy.

Then there was the first potential to bite it. She was fine too. There in lies their first mistake. Killing the hot potential. Whoops shoulda killed the annoying brat kennedy. Then they tried to make up for it by not killing Xander. Again a mistake. Killing Xander would have upped the ante big time. Instead we get a weak eyepatch. Then they kill Anya at the last second. Who cares at that point? We weren't going to see her again anyway. Pssh. Pssh I say to season 7. I say they should have made Dawn a slayer and Willow evil and had them mud wrestle through season 8. Where's my contract and large sums of money Fox?

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Monday, January 29, 2007 11:40 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by embers:

everyone wanted THEIR ship to come in....

now (years later) they are over the resentments and ship wars, but they still haven't rewatched the season!
does that make sense to you?

Angry [like, off]
Em, I think you nailed it, because when I first watched 6 & 7, it was after my harsh disappointment with season 5- I felt that they destroyed the framework of Buffy by giving us SO much depressing stuff culminating in Buffy's death, that I didn't even want to go on.
Some months later, curiosity and a need for closure (and some fans here :)pushed me to see the end, and I approached it like: Okay, kill everyone, make me cry, whatever...I just wanna see it. No agenda, no expectations. Imagine my surprise when I found myself loving it again!!!
Angry [back on]
So

all who can't deal!!!!

If looks could kill Chrisisall!

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Monday, January 29, 2007 5:54 PM

GROOSALUGG

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
Season 7 wasn't all bad. Dawn was getting friggin hot. I mean seriously her first day of school outfit? yummy.

Some people don't like "Him". This, I cannot figure out. I say that in the scene at the Bronze while she's dancing with AJ, the inventor of the A<->B button on the DVD remote earned a great big 'Thank you!'

("Right there with ya.")

And hey, Chris: you want a flamey debate over S7? Okay, here ya go: season 7 sucked!!

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Monday, January 29, 2007 8:34 PM

SINGATE

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
I say they should have made Dawn a slayer and Willow evil and had them mud wrestle through season 8. Where's my contract and large sums of money Fox?

Finally some sanity in this thread. Pull this off and the Nobel Prize will be yours for the taking.
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Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:18 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Groosalugg:

And hey, Chris: you want a flamey debate over S7? Okay, here ya go: season 7 sucked!!

Well, I liked seeing the First get f**ked! YOU didn't? Either you're against the First, or you're against Buffy, which is it, pal?
You anti-Buffy???

, you Buffy-hater!!!!!

Learned flame well in RWED Chrisisall

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Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:52 PM

GROOSALUGG

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Well, I liked seeing the First get f**ked! YOU didn't?

Why should I care that the most lame-ass, sucky Big Bad they ever had (way more so than either the Master OR Adam!) got bitch-slapped? To quote Chris Farley: "Well, la-dee-freakin'-da!!"

Woo! Way to go, Buffy! Imagine all the people the First would've killed if you hadn't stopped it... Oh, wait--the First wasn't corporeal? It couldn't actually hurt anyone by itself? It needed even lamer-ass minions for that? So, um... then just how the f**k did it take you a whole friggin' season to whup such a loser crew as that?

Oh, and:

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Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:40 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Groosalugg:
then just how the f**k did it take you a whole friggin' season to whup such a loser crew as that?

I suppose YOU could whup a bunch of ubervamps ans Bringers better, HUH???
Not without a big board and Andrew's detailed schematics!!!!
You obviously know NOTHING about non-coporeal evil, you two-dimensional-thinking biped!!!

, talking monkey!!!!

NOW!....

Wheelchair battle...?

Ha, I've got you now Chrisisall

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Wednesday, January 31, 2007 5:57 PM

CHARLIETHEBLOODY

I love that embers

and season 7 was great too

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Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:07 PM

GROOSALUGG

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
I suppose YOU could whup a bunch of ubervamps ans Bringers better, HUH???

'Course not, but I'M not the Slayer, Lack-Brain!!

I didn't stop 6 previous apocalypses, kill a robo-Frankenstein, stop a troll, kill two big snakes, etc...

It's good that the show ended when it did, 'cause Buffy was obviously losing her fastball. The Buffy I remember from S3 would've sent the First, its hooded weirdos, and flyboy-Captain-preacher righthand man packing in about 5 episodes...

You have nothing, you S7-loving freak!!!

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Thursday, February 1, 2007 4:21 AM

CHARLIETHEBLOODY

it hasn't ended yet, season 8's gonna kick arse

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Thursday, February 1, 2007 5:09 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Groosalugg:
The Buffy I remember from S3 would've sent the First, its hooded weirdos, and flyboy-Captain-preacher righthand man packing in about 5 episodes...

The Buffy you speak of would just think of Angel during a fight with Caleb, and run to Willow saying "Oh Willow...I can't breathe *sob*"
And Caleb and the First would HAVE her!!!!
That's right- season 3 Buffy was a PUNK!!!!!

, you teen-angst loving hump!!!!

Gimme grown-up Buffster any day Chrisisall

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Thursday, February 1, 2007 6:02 AM

CHARLIETHEBLOODY

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
and run to Willow saying "Oh Willow...I can't breathe *sob*

I choke up just reading that line, you heartless old

although groosalug seems to forget that in buffy's season 3 encounter with the first she only had to trash a couple of hoodies and make it to the hilltop, it was hardly the epic struggle of season 7. the first just did a scary face and went poof.

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Thursday, February 1, 2007 7:48 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by charliethebloody:

I choke up just reading that line, you heartless old

Truth to tell, I choked up typing it, but I wanted to zing it to him, so....

er, I mean,

!

Weepy wuss! Chrisisall

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