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TV icons....here's a few :

Lucy Ricardo
Archie Bunker
Mary Richards
Sheriff Matt Dillon
Dobie Gillis
Ralph Kramden
Kwai Chang Cain
Batman (Adam West)
Superman (George Reeves)
Perry Mason
Hawkeye Pierce
Captain Picard
Maxwell Smart
Lone Ranger
Little Joe Cartwright

I think those TV Icons at least rival Miss Gellar's portrayal of Joss's Buffy in the collective American conscience.

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Originally posted by mangahed:

There probably is'nt a better image than just that.

Buffy is a ledge!

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Jack Bauer holding a gun is cool but just not the same. He does kick butt though.

I watched the entire lot of Buffy boxsets recently and it still has the best characters, one-liners, stories, special fx, humour + variety than anything else before or since.

Not even heroes has done that yet with all of its characters.

mangahed

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I do love heroes, i saw the first season twice (cant belive i've just put that!) oh well its out there now! but so far the 2nd season has been a tad less ' wow ' for me too.

whats happened!!?

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hope they sort it out.

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ohh, and i must say indie with the hat and whip really is a good one!! i didnt think of that!

lookin forward to the new one. Is shia lebouf playing indie's son?

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
If Heroes stayed as good as it's first season, or if it regains that in subsequent seasons, it may have a shot of being as good as Buffy...but face it everyone, as multi-season, multi-character series go, Buffy is the Queen of all shows (This from a die-hard Dark Angel fan, no less).
You can't count Firefly in that btw, it didn't even have a full season.
Only Northern Exposure is anywhere near Buffy, and misses mainly because of it's last season not being able to tie things us as lyrically as the prior seasons suggested it might have.



So says Chrisisall

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Ohhh thems good words Big 'C' well said.

I think Heroes is going to struggle to reclaim it's first seasons status by the very fact that they did everything in that first season. They should just have saved the Cheerleader... The 'Saving the World' should have come much later, after the key 'Heroes' had developed some kind of relationship.

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Chris...... I don't know why but that image don't sit well with me ?

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
If Heroes stayed as good as it's first season, or if it regains that in subsequent seasons, it may have a shot of being as good as Buffy...but face it everyone, as multi-season, multi-character series go, Buffy is the Queen of all shows (This from a die-hard Dark Angel fan, no less).
You can't count Firefly in that btw, it didn't even have a full season.
Only Northern Exposure is anywhere near Buffy, and misses mainly because of it's last season not being able to tie things us as lyrically as the prior seasons suggested it might have.

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kojack and his lollipop

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Yes. I had forgotten about Kojack and his lollipop. It's a strong contender indeed.

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The only show that I think can rival Buffy...is Angel! Probably one of the most underrated shows ever, too.

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I would like to add The Doctor to the mix and I would put forward the only real contender to Buffy. From a look point of view Tom Baker's Doctor with his big coat and long striped scarf is a good image. He also fits the other points as well, he does what no one else can, even if the cost is great, to make things right.

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Reaching over to movies then:
Indy is an obvious first choice.
James Bond holding his PPK is another.
Ripley in the powerloader from Aliens (an absolute classic scene).
Batman as a silhouette in the dark.
The Man With No Name. Hat, cheroot, poncho and steely blue eyes.

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