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WTF??? A shoot-out at Fort Hood???
Thursday, November 5, 2009 1:09 PM
CHRISISALL
Thursday, November 5, 2009 1:17 PM
STORYMARK
Thursday, November 5, 2009 1:20 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
GINOBIFFARONI
Thursday, November 5, 2009 1:22 PM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Pretty horrible. If only there had been someone there with a gun, all this could have been avoided..... "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
Thursday, November 5, 2009 1:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: Hmmm... and today is November the 5th.
Thursday, November 5, 2009 1:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Pretty horrible. If only there had been someone there with a gun, all this could have been avoided..... "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him." Too soon, Mark.
Thursday, November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Pretty horrible. If only there had been someone there with a gun, all this could have been avoided..... "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him." Too soon, Mark. Perhaps. But shootings like this always bring about a certain contingent saying that "if only folks were armed, it could have been stopped". Well, we have here a case that adds a whole new level to that discussion. "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
Thursday, November 5, 2009 1:52 PM
Thursday, November 5, 2009 1:55 PM
Thursday, November 5, 2009 2:34 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote:An Army psychiatrist about to be deployed to combat zones overseas killed 11 soldiers and wounded 31 others on Thursday afternoon at Fort Hood in Texas, the authorities said. The gunman, who was identified as Major Nidal Malik Hasan, was then killed by police forces. Mr. Hasan, 39, who had been promoted in May and previously worked at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, was about to be deployed to Iraq, according to Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison. Her spokesman, Jeff Sadoski, said Major Hasan was upset about his pending deployment. “There were several eyewitness accounts that there was more than one shooter,” said Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone, the commanding officer at Fort Hood. Two other soldiers were initially taken into custody, but were later released, Christopher Haug, a base spokesman, told CNN. Mr. Haug said that another soldier has since been detained.
Thursday, November 5, 2009 3:02 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Thursday, November 5, 2009 3:54 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:There's also likely a factor of secondary caregiver trauma, as mental health personnel treating PTSD tend to suffer a high degree of psychological casualty themselves
Quote:In September, the Army announced that it would spend $300,000 to study the impact of pairing psychiatric service dogs like Jet with soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan with post-traumatic stress disorder. Both the House and Senate have recently passed bills that would finance the training and placement of these dogs with veterans.
Thursday, November 5, 2009 4:57 PM
NCBROWNCOAT
Thursday, November 5, 2009 5:24 PM
Quote:HE IS NOT DEAD? According to Fox he was wounded, in stable condition, and death is not immenent I've just heard on CNN that the shooter had actually been watched by authorities after he made several threats online, about blowing him/or something else up. I can't remember the exact claim; but it was something similar. I reckon they'll be more info on this later. this is looking like MK Ultra/sirhan sirhan type shit or Kazinski. He was at Waler Reed which was used in the MK Ultra projects of patsy assassins. THIS IS RENDEN/OMNICOM/LINCOLN DISINFO SCRIPT READ EACH SENTENCE EVERYTHING IS TOTAL HORSESHITE WITH NO SOURCES THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS WITH A FALSE FLAG IF IT WAS TRUE.... THEN THE US ARMY WANTED THIS TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I seriously get the feeling that they're going to use this as a reason and an example as to why they should lock things down even more/increase the magnitude of the police state, and justify all of the corruption & locking-down that has taken place already...
Thursday, November 5, 2009 6:16 PM
Thursday, November 5, 2009 10:31 PM
PARTICIPANT
Quote:Sudden Jihad Syndrome get this on a mug The tendency among supposedly Westernized Muslims living in the United States to unexpectedly lash out violently in an act of self-initiated (and usually small scale) Islamic terrorism. Also abbreviated to “SJS” or “S.J.S.” Examples include Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar who drove his SUV into a crowd at the University of North Carolina in 2006, Naveed Alzal Haq who shot people at a Jewish Federation Center in Seattle also in 2006, Hesham Mohammed Hadayet who murdered people at the El Al terminal in the Los Angeles Airport in 2002 — among many others. In all of these instances, the perpetrators had no known direct connection to any established group, and because of this the authorities inevitably refrain from describing their actions as “terrorism” — hence the sarcastic term “Sudden Jihad Syndrome.” CAIR spokesman: "Jihad means one's own INNER struggle. You are purposely misrepresenting the teachings of Islam!" Anyone with eyes to see: "Well, when someone breaks out with a case of Sudden Jihad Syndrome, it looks more like an OUTER conflict against random third parties."
Quote:UK: Muslim Mother of Six wants her Children to blow up for Jihad Houria Chahed Chentouf A mother of six who concealed bomb-making manuals on a computer memory stick hidden inside her burka as she flew into Britain has been given a two-year jail sentence. Houria Chahed Chentouf, 41, a Moroccan-born Dutch woman, had developed an obsession with jihad, or holy war, amassing a huge library on how to become an effective terrorist, Manchester Crown Court was told
Quote:Major Malik Nadal Hasan, the shooter in today's Fort Hood attack, had made his pro-Islamic views well known in the past. Why was this lowlife allowed to continue to serve? Oh, I forgot the Pentagon does not have the guts to face Islam for what it really is. Don't be surprised to see more Muslim on non-Muslim attacks like this, within the US Military.
Thursday, November 5, 2009 11:15 PM
Quote:I have no information at this time - but I did note that the IMMEDIATE reaction of both the media and political factors was "Hey, he has an arab sounding name, maybe we can hang this on radical islam, yay!" Which both sickens me, and gives perhaps a hint of what set the guy off...
Thursday, November 5, 2009 11:17 PM
ZZETTA13
Friday, November 6, 2009 12:20 AM
Quote:"In Haig's presence, [Sir Heinz 'Henry'] Kissinger [Kosher Anti-Semite Knight of the British Empire, who was George Bush Jr's choice to run the 9/11 Coverup Commission] referred pointedly to military men as 'dumb, stupid animals to be used' as pawns for foreign policy." -Jew Lt Bob Woodward US Naval Intelligence in Vietnam and for Joint Chiefs of Staff at Pentagon for General Alexander Haig at the Nixon White House, The Final Days, Chapter 14, page 194 "As the most recent National Security Advisor of the United States, I take my daily orders from Dr. Kissinger, filtered down through General Brent Scowcroft and Sandy Berger, who is also here. We have a chain of command in the National Security Council that exists today." -Major General James Jones, Obama's National Security Advisor www.examiner.com/x-4285-Salt-Lake-Nonpartisan-Examiner~y2009m3d23-National-Security-Advisor-takes-orders-from-Henry-Kissinger
Friday, November 6, 2009 1:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by participant: This is what happens when you employ radical islamics to do the jobs of Americans Major Nidal Malik Hasan, 39, was born in Virginia to parents who moved to the US from a Palestinian town near Jerusalem.
Quote: He was described as a devout Muslim - a local imam told the Washington Post that he attended daily prayers at a mosque when he worked at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington DC
Friday, November 6, 2009 1:42 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Quote:I have no information at this time - but I did note that the IMMEDIATE reaction of both the media and political factors was "Hey, he has an arab sounding name, maybe we can hang this on radical islam, yay!" Which both sickens me, and gives perhaps a hint of what set the guy off... And the above fools instant and unthinking regurgitation of said bullshit proves exactly the point I was making, does it not ? But hey, who needs evidence when you have ideology, right ? Dipshits. -Frem "This is vengeance... So I am to ferry you to hell."
Friday, November 6, 2009 4:25 AM
DRAGO
Friday, November 6, 2009 4:53 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
Friday, November 6, 2009 7:16 AM
Friday, November 6, 2009 7:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by participant: There you have it. Poor Hasan, who shot a teenage girl in the back, was suffering post-traumatic stress disorder by proxy.
Friday, November 6, 2009 7:45 AM
BYTEMITE
Friday, November 6, 2009 8:28 AM
Quote: Veterans from the two wars have committed at least 120 murders beginning with a spate of killings of wives at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, in 2002 and continuing with five murders at a military base in Colorado last year.
Friday, November 6, 2009 8:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by participant: Allen West, GOP Candidate: Ft. Hood Shows "Terrorists Are Infiltrating Military"
Friday, November 6, 2009 9:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Frem, something I wondered, being that this guy is a psychiatrist, is it possible he was on medication himself or that he was recommended some medication by another army doctor? The account Jayneztown gives suggests to me that he was pretty stable before this event. WTF happened? EDIT: Hmm, secondary PTSD. Actually, that makes quite a bit of sense as well. But usually it needs a trigger of something in the afflicted person's past, what usually happens is that they encounter a victim of a traumatic experience that they relate to VERY strongly.
Friday, November 6, 2009 10:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: So pardon me if the idea of the standing army we ain't even supposed to have turning into a circular firing squad doesn't bother me a whole lot.
Friday, November 6, 2009 10:54 AM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Friday, November 6, 2009 12:04 PM
Quote:We learn that Hasan “Showed no signs of worry or stress when he stopped at 7-Eleven for his daily breakfast of hash browns, said Jeannie Strickland, the store’s manager.” ” He came in (Thursday) morning just like normal,” she said, “nothing weird, nothing out of the ordinary.” CNN feverishly seized upon the CCTV footage and began broadcasting it relentlessly because Hasan is seen wearing Arab garb and Muslim headdress, fitting the carefully pre-arranged stereotype perfectly. Just like the 7/7 bombing patsies who were filmed laughing and joking, getting into arguments and generally doing everything a terrorist would want to avoid, Hasan’s pre-attack behavior should set alarm bells ringing. Just like the 7/7 bombing patsies and the liquid bombing patsies, the description of Hasan by those reinforcing the official characterization of him as a vengeful jihadist is completely at odds with how his own family members described him. Hasan’s cousin laughed when an interviewer asked him if the shooter was “violent.” “He was just normal, loved sports, never got into trouble.” He said his family was “shocked and baffled” by the incident. “His parents didn’t want him to go into the military,” Mr. Hasan said. “He said, ‘No, I was born and raised here, I’m going to do my duty to the country.’ ” Then the lurid details really began to pour in to reinforce the Islamic terrorist stereotype – Hasan screamed “Allah Akbar!” http://www.prisonplanet.com/everything-about-nidal-malik-hasan-screams-patsy.html
Quote:"The FBI has issued a BOLO on suspected terrorists driving a white delivery van from New York City to the Mexican border. The suspects are using Israeli passports. They are armed and dangerous." -Knox County TN Emergency 911 Dispatch, Sept 11, 2001, 11am EST http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0622-05.htm The first terrorist bombers arrested in USA on 9/11/2001 were Israeli Mossad says Fox News. There were over 500 of them, infiltrating US military bases and all police agencies. They were dressed as Muslims, "dancing in happiness" while watching and videotaping the World Trade Center explode. All were allowed to leave USA, and none were tortured to confess at Gitmo. youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw youtube.com/watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html 2 Israeli Mossad agents were arrested with explosive residue in their white truck in Erwin TN nuke plant. http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=7238 Semite. 1 a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and ARABS - b : a descendant of these peoples - 2 : a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language. —Merriam Webster Dictionary "A 'Semite' is any person living in that area, including Arabs and Christians. It's time we start talking about 'The Other AntiSemitism'. A Semite is not a Jew living in America or Europe." —Ralph Nader, C-SPAN, 2003
Friday, November 6, 2009 1:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by participant: Allen West, GOP Candidate: Ft. Hood Shows "Terrorists Are Infiltrating Military" Clearly he's an expert. Good thing we have him to tell us what's what. "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
Friday, November 6, 2009 3:48 PM
DREAMTROVE
Quote:Bytemite: ... being that this guy is a psychiatrist, is it possible he was on medication himself...
Friday, November 6, 2009 9:59 PM
Friday, November 6, 2009 11:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by participant:
Quote:"Staff member inserts one properly folded flag into the incinerator/fire. Sing or recite the first stanza of God Bless America. When guests have departed, staff members and volunteers burn the remaining flags." www.flagkeepers.org/ProperDisposalCeremony.asp
Saturday, November 7, 2009 6:55 AM
OUT2THEBLACK
Quote:Originally posted by rue: ...It always takes me by complete surprise. And all the old feelings will come down on me as if I haven't lived these decades or learned any new perspective. That's how it works for me.
Saturday, November 7, 2009 7:02 AM
Saturday, November 7, 2009 8:20 AM
Saturday, November 7, 2009 9:06 AM
Saturday, November 7, 2009 9:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: First of all, I am a former registered EMT. You do know what EMT means, right ? Or do I have to spell it out for you ? As for being a vampire, you DO know that they are fictional beings, right ?
Saturday, November 7, 2009 9:46 AM
Saturday, November 7, 2009 11:42 AM
Quote:Posted by Out2Lunch: ...because oblique and off-target responses are also characteristic of schizophrenia and other mental illness...
Saturday, November 7, 2009 11:50 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Saturday, November 7, 2009 12:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: And you re saying I'm a zombie ? Well, OK. For a non-oblique denial - I am not. "which is probably why you were screened out of the EMT business..." I was not. I was a licensed EMT with an active and long-maintained license. I let my license lapse when I moved across the country to get a really, really good job. Something I bet you wish you had, along with lots of money. Anything ELSE that's really stupid ?
Saturday, November 7, 2009 12:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Posted by Out2Lunch: ...because oblique and off-target responses are also characteristic of schizophrenia and other mental illness... Well, THAT explains a lot, like oblique and off-target responses...Like President Obama... Oblique? Check. Off-target? And how!
Saturday, November 7, 2009 12:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by out2theblack: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Posted by Out2Lunch: ...because oblique and off-target responses are also characteristic of schizophrenia and other mental illness... Well, THAT explains a lot, like oblique and off-target responses...Like President Obama... Oblique? Check. Off-target? And how! You're right , Mike , ScamBO did come at us sideways...Sidled up to US and smiled , promised you Change , and you fell for it... Sorry for you , but you got what you paid for... Sucker.
Saturday, November 7, 2009 12:39 PM
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