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Tiger's Sponsors Make Subtle Changes
Tuesday, December 8, 2009 2:24 AM
RIVERLOVE
Tuesday, December 8, 2009 2:36 AM
PIZMOBEACH
... fully loaded, safety off...
Tuesday, December 8, 2009 3:24 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
Tuesday, December 8, 2009 4:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JaynezTown: media coverage around his house 24/7
Tuesday, December 8, 2009 4:50 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Tuesday, December 8, 2009 5:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Can you imagine the celebration when he finally dies? It's what everyone seems to be hoping for.
Tuesday, December 8, 2009 6:14 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:10 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Tuesday, December 8, 2009 10:44 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: None of my damn business. And frankly I am sick of hearing about it. -F
Tuesday, December 8, 2009 12:51 PM
TRAVELER
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: I'm waiting for the Congressional hearings.
Tuesday, December 8, 2009 2:04 PM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Tuesday, December 8, 2009 7:04 PM
DREAMTROVE
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 2:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: I wish the jokes were better. And fwiw, I've noticed that jokes go around about pretty much everything. My favorite was a joke that surfaced after the Rodney King beating: the LAPD's new motto - come to LA and we'll treat you like a king !
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 3:10 AM
Quote:Rue, sorry you didn't like my Tiger sponsor jokes. I tried to make them relevant and humorous, but apparently not so much. If only I had a staff of writers like Letterman & Leno, then maybe the product might have amused you to some degree. Oh well, I guess I won't think about changing careers any time soon.
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 3:42 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: As for him being a role model... Only if you're stupid enough to put an athlete or celebrity on such a pedestal, and hold them up as your idols. If you do that, you get what you deserve. If Tiger Woods was a rapper, nobody would even give a shit who he's screwing. He'd just have more "cred" for banging porn stars.
Quote:Tiger's been seen as a role model and held up as the face of golf; you said so yourself. If that's the case, his "fall" is really the fall of the nation, proving that we've become so shallow that we'll buy anything as long as it complies with our preconceived notions. And we'll drop it the second it doesn't.
Quote:*I* didn't imbue Tiger with this overarching power as the greatest and highest-paid athlete; that was YOU. I see him not as an idol, not as a role model, but as a guy who hits a golf ball really well, which I consider to be a stupid pastime in the first place. But for some reason, YOU seem to think he really matters, and you hang on every word, waiting to see what's next. Bread and circuses and bright shiny objects...
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 4:52 AM
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 5:17 AM
Quote: Perhaps you're just upset that it's upstaging Pres. Obama's coverage of his urgent initiatives. With Obama's numbers dropping to historic lows, I can understand why many would be upset about Tiger's coverage. I haven't heard Tiger blame George Bush for his troubles yet, so he always has that Obama tactic to fall back on.
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 5:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: If I demean you for idolizing and emulating celebrities, it's only because by proclaiming that you do such things, you show your true shallowness, and that SHOULD be demeaned. You really can strive to be better.
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: But if you're right that this kind of scandal should be covered ad infinitum, and that it should have real consequences for the transgressor, and that it will have a real and negative impact on the nation,
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 5:59 AM
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 6:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: The US today - willing to believe anything marketed to us so that we will buy more stuff. That includes Tiger Woods.
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 8:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Riverlove: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: If I demean you for idolizing and emulating celebrities, it's only because by proclaiming that you do such things, you show your true shallowness, and that SHOULD be demeaned. You really can strive to be better. I have never said that I idolize him or emulate him, so that makes you just a lying asshole, or an outright idiot.
Quote:His entire "married with children" act was just a fraud and a marketing ploy to make him seem like a clean-cut regular guy. Tens of millions of golf fans, and non-golf fans alike feel betrayed by the sham of it. Sponsors are starting to drop him, and no commercials with him are being aired. Rumors out there suggest this behavior has been Tiger's real life for a long time, with hundreds of trysts and liasions with prostitutes, porn stars, and waitresses. Yet he was the face and role model that Madison Avenue chose to sell cars, razors, insurance, sports drinks, golf equipment, watches, financial services, etc. etc. And none of this has anything to do with his marraige or his privacy. 90% of his wealth came from endorsements, not actual golf winnings. He's a public figure, and he has betrayed the public's trust.
Quote: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: But if you're right that this kind of scandal should be covered ad infinitum, and that it should have real consequences for the transgressor, and that it will have a real and negative impact on the nation, I have never said that this scandal will have a negative impact for the nation, so once again you're just a lying asshole, or an outright idiot.
Quote:Posted by Kwicko: Tiger's been seen as a role model and held up as the face of golf; you said so yourself. If that's the case, his "fall" is really the fall of the nation, proving that we've become so shallow that we'll buy anything as long as it complies with our preconceived notions. And we'll drop it the second it doesn't. *I* didn't imbue Tiger with this overarching power as the greatest and highest-paid athlete; that was YOU. I see him not as an idol, not as a role model, but as a guy who hits a golf ball really well, which I consider to be a stupid pastime in the first place. But for some reason, YOU seem to think he really matters, and you hang on every word, waiting to see what's next. Bread and circuses and bright shiny objects...
Quote:Posted by Riverlove: I guess you're just a superior human being who is above the commonality of most people. We mere mortals are often influenced by real role models and/or media-created ones. Congratulations on acheiving Metron status.
Quote:To deny the role model stature, or make that seem so unusual is a bit condescending and obtuse. And this has nothing to do with the nation per se, unless you analyze all the filthy and disgusting stuff that permeates our culture. Then yes, we're all guilty to some degree.
Quote: CNN covers it every day and night. MSNBC's Olbermann is making a new career of it every night. (he's actually hysterically good at it). Sports radio is all over it every day. ESPN analyzes it daily. All over the internet news and blogs. Newspapers and magazines are following the story as it continues to develop. There are potential legal problems ahead for Tiger, both criminal and civil, which attracts the scrutiny of those that follow the legal system. And on and on.
Quote:Bread & Circuses for sure, but why you try to demean me for posting about it is suspect.
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 12:07 PM
CITIZEN
Quote:Originally posted by traveler: Congressional hearings. Isn't that like asking the fox to keep watch over the hen house.
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 1:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by citizen: Quote:Originally posted by traveler: Congressional hearings. Isn't that like asking the fox to keep watch over the hen house. Or Fox to ensure journalistic integrity.
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 5:50 PM
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 6:07 PM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by Riverlove: I guess you're just a superior human being who is above the commonality of most people. We mere mortals are often influenced by real role models and/or media-created ones.
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 7:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Alas, in spite of the wild lifestyle, Tiger is much too much of a square to capitalize on this situation. Meanwhile, I'm thinking, single swedish model, with a mean golf swing. Come on, seriously, grab a club and parry. ;)
Wednesday, December 9, 2009 8:03 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: And yes, Tiger really SHOULD roll with it, and embrace it. Show up at the next tournament with a dozen hot floozies in his entourage, and tell Phil Mickelson and John Daly, "That's how I roll, bitches!"
Quote:Tiger Woods' alleged mistress #1 -- Rachel Uchitel -- has flipped out after learning how many women now claim to have had unprotected sex with Tiger -- and she is telling friends she will get screened for sexually transmitted diseases, stat. In short, she's doing the right thing. Friends say Rachel is particularly upset that Tiger allegedly slept with two porn stars. www.tmz.com/#ixzz0ZGJ26mLS
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