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On Dick Cheney (I guess you can call it ideological...)
Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:55 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:The White House responded forcefully Wednesday to former Vice President Dick Cheney's criticism of President Obama's response to the botched terror attack on Christmas Day. "It is telling that Vice President Cheney and others seem to be more focused on criticizing the Administration than condemning the attackers," White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer wrote on the official White House blog. "Unfortunately too many are engaged in the typical Washington game of pointing fingers and making political hay, instead of working together to find solutions to make our country safer." Nigerian suspect Umar Farouk AbdulMutallab, 23, is accused of trying to blow up the Northwest Airlines plane with explosives that had been concealed in his underwear. He is charged with attempting to destroy an aircraft. The militant group al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula has claimed responsibility for the plot. Pfeiffer's response came hours after Cheney, in his first statement on the failed bombing, said the administration's response was proof that Obama "is trying to pretend we are not at war." "He seems to think if he gives terrorists the rights of Americans, lets them lawyer up and reads them their Miranda rights, we won't be at war," Cheney said in the statement. "He seems to think if we bring the mastermind of 9/11 to New York, give him a lawyer and trial in civilian court, we won't be at war. He seems to think if he closes Guantanamo and releases the hard-core al Qaeda-trained terrorists still there, we won't be at war." Cheney also said Obama outwardly "pretends we aren't [at war]," and the former vice president repeated his months-long criticism that the new president has made America "less safe." "Why doesn't he want to admit we're at war?" Cheney asked. "It doesn't fit with the view of the world he brought with him to the Oval Office. It doesn't fit with what seems to be the goal of his presidency: social transformation, the restructuring of American society." In his blog posting, Pfeiffer criticized the Bush-Cheney strategy of focusing the war on terror on Iraq. "For seven years after 9/11, while our national security was overwhelmingly focused on Iraq -- a country that had no al Qaeda presence before our invasion -- Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda's leadership was able to set up camp in the border region of Pakistan and Afghanistan, where they continued to plot attacks against the United States," Pfeiffer wrote. "Meanwhile, al Qaeda also regenerated in places like Yemen and Somalia, establishing new safe-havens that have grown over a period of years," Pfeiffer continued. "It was President Obama who finally implemented a strategy of winding down the war in Iraq, and actually focusing our resources on the war against al Qaeda." By doubling U.S. troops in Afghanistan and building partnerships to target al Qaeda's safe havens in Yemen and Somalia, Obama has achieved results to make the nation safer, Pfeiffer argued. "Seven years of bellicose rhetoric failed to reduce the threat from al Qaeda and succeeded in dividing this country," Pfeiffer said. "And it seems strangely off-key now, at a time when our country is under attack, for the architect of those policies to be attacking the president." Pfeiffer also took issue with Cheney's contention that Obama was pretending no U.S. war with terrorists existed, saying the president and members of his administration have referred to being at war with al Qaeda several times. "The difference is this: President Obama doesn't need to beat his chest to prove it, and -- unlike the last Administration -- we are not at war with a tactic ("terrorism"), we at war with something that is tangible: al Qaeda and its violent extremist allies," Pfeiffer wrote. Cheney's comments were his latest criticisms of the new administration. He previously declared that Obama has put the country's security at an elevated level of risk as a result of a string of national security decisions that largely were at odds with Bush administration practices. The former vice president's forceful critique of Obama has been praised by the political right, leading the conservative publication Human Events to award him the title of "Conservative of the Year." Cheney's statements also echo those of congressional Republicans who have criticized Obama's response to the terrorist attempt. Democrats note that Bush was not subjected to criticisms from either Democrats or the media when he waited six days to respond to Richard Reid's attempted shoe-bombing of an airplane on December 22, 2001. Like Obama, Bush was on vacation when that botched attack occurred. GOP members of Congress have also sharply questioned how AbdulMutallab could fly in the first place after his own father had warned U.S. intelligence authorities that his son was possibly under the influence of religious extremists. Rep. Peter Hoekstra of Michigan, the top Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee, said the White House isn't sharing information. Meanwhile, Republican Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina, whom Democrats blame for holding up the confirmation of Obama's nominee to head the Transportation Security Administration, said the new administration has "downplayed terrorism." Responding to the criticism, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman Chris Van Hollen said in a statement to CNN that Republicans have become "out of touch in their efforts to score political points" off the failed bombing attempt.
Thursday, December 31, 2009 2:54 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Friday, January 1, 2010 5:19 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Friday, January 1, 2010 5:36 AM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Friday, January 1, 2010 5:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: How can he not be dead yet?
Friday, January 1, 2010 6:26 AM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Cheney is what McCarthy woulda become if McCarthy had found himself in that position. And history has proven McCarthy was a lunatic. -F
Friday, January 1, 2010 7:02 AM
Friday, January 1, 2010 7:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Think he sold his soul to the devil?
Sunday, January 3, 2010 9:26 AM
Sunday, January 3, 2010 9:33 AM
Sunday, January 3, 2010 11:38 AM
GINOBIFFARONI
Sunday, January 3, 2010 12:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni: should change ideological to pathological
Sunday, January 3, 2010 6:52 PM
Sunday, January 3, 2010 7:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: I kinda hope you're not saying that my posting this was "pathological"...?
Sunday, January 3, 2010 7:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: I kinda hope you're not saying that my posting this was "pathological"...? I think Gino was commenting on your kindness in describing Cheney... The laughing Chrisisall
Monday, January 4, 2010 9:37 AM
OUT2THEBLACK
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: How can he not be dead yet? Only the good die young, this makes him, much like Kissinger, all but immortal. -F
Monday, January 4, 2010 12:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by out2theblack: Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: How can he not be dead yet? Only the good die young, this makes him, much like Kissinger, all but immortal. -F That , and the fact that he's a Cyborg with nearly unlimited funding...
Monday, January 4, 2010 12:37 PM
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