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Newt Gingrich: Shoe Bomber an American Citizen (Not PN)
Wednesday, February 10, 2010 6:40 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:23 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:34 AM
STORYMARK
Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:38 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Shouldn't Wulfie or Rappy be here to tell us he really was, and it's all just a librul conspiracy or something....
Thursday, February 11, 2010 8:04 AM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Thursday, February 11, 2010 8:20 AM
Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Shouldn't Wulfie or Rappy be here to tell us he really was, and it's all just a librul conspiracy or something....
Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: "You've already closed your mind to logic and reason ..." What about facts ? Do facts show up anywhere on your radar ? At all ? *************************************************************** Silence is consent.
Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Oh, please, do share with us the logic and reason of claiming he was a citizen when he was not.
Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:31 AM
Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:11 PM
Quote:Newt defends Mirandizing shoe-bomber Richard Reid, because, he says, "Richard Reid was an American citizen.
Quote:I've not commented on either side of this issue
Thursday, February 11, 2010 2:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Folks, was it this bad when he was here before? Did everyone buy into his taunts and spend the majority of the time in RWED fighting with him? Aren't there more interesting things here? Don't you GET that this is all he's here for?
Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:01 PM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Don't you GET that this is all he's here for?
Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: When did I say he was a citizen???? Now you're just making shit up. Or have you just given up entirely on trying to read? I was just wondering which entirely made-up "facts" you were referring to.....? Clearly, yet another RapFact - inconsistent with reality.
Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: meQuote:I've not commented on either side of this issueNo, you haven't. You just jumped in out of nowhere to jack the thread onto yourself. Folks, was it this bad when he was here before? Did everyone buy into his taunts and spend the majority of the time in RWED fighting with him? Aren't there more interesting things here? Don't you GET that this is all he's here for? It's just a shame; I miss the way it was, with adult conversations and stuff.
Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: When did I say he was a citizen???? Now you're just making shit up. Or have you just given up entirely on trying to read? I was just wondering which entirely made-up "facts" you were referring to.....? Clearly, yet another RapFact - inconsistent with reality. Did you chew on too much lead paint as a child ? I quoted your post, directly, and then commented on the quote. I didn't make up any " shit ", I didn't " lie ", all you're doing is taking the cowards way out and instantly resorting to childish name calling and accusing me of replying to imaginary quotes which you yourself made. Where's that get fun, exactly? Makes you look like a total ass, is all.
Quote: Oh, please, do share with us the logic and reason of claiming he was a citizen when he was not.
Quote: The shoe bomber isn't a citizen ? Which is it ? I thought you were saying he was. Why does it matter? It's not my argument. I've not commented on either side of this issue. Is that how you want to have discussion? Pigeon hole me into taking a side in an argument that Newt got himself into ?
Quote:Just not in the least bit impressed w/ the lot of you.
Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:18 PM
Quote: Quote: " Oh, please, do share with us the logic and reason of claiming he was a citizen when he was not." He's referring to Newt's claim that Richard Reid *IS* a U.S. citizen, when clearly he never was. He was a British citizen. Now he's in an American prison, yet still not an American citizen. Story was quite clearly asking you to expound on the logic and reason of Newt making such a claim which is easily disproved.
Quote: He asked you to explain the reason and logic behind claiming the man was a U.S. citizen, to which you asked if he "isn't a citizen?" and portraying Story as saying he *IS*, which he clearly never said. So yes, you're making shit up, and you're a liar.
Quote: It's a wonder you even post here, since it seems to be so beneath you to do so.
Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:36 PM
Friday, February 12, 2010 7:39 AM
Quote: Shouldn't Wulfie or Rappy be here to tell us he really was, and it's all just a librul conspiracy or something....
Quote:You've already closed your mind to logic and reason, so why should I even bother ?
Friday, February 12, 2010 7:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Let me know how that works out for ya, Rappy. I've been busting your ass up and down these boards for years now. So much, in fact, that you FUCKING RAN AWAY LIKE A LITTLE TINY BABY last time I owned your ass. I'll be only too happy to continue doing so. As for your lying and making shit up, I posted Story's posts, and your responses. To say that they don't say what they clearly DO say is a lie, by you. Again. Have you ever told the truth about ANYTHING?
Friday, February 12, 2010 8:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: . Story's was a response to you seeming to indicate that you DID think he was a citizen.
Quote: Perhaps a simple misunderstanding? If so, why didn’t you respond to the ISSUE, rather than just coming in and jacking the thread with a snark—which is exactly what it is, when you come in and snap at people without caring what it is they’re writing about, and turn the entire thread into an argument about YOU.
Quote: Now, is THIS plain enough for you to see what actually happened? You haven't been lying, just starting from a post two down from the beginning...or choosing to start? Respond, if you will, to the ACTUAL chronology of events, and quit using Story to whine about your treatment. You're the one who hopped in to make a snark which made you look the way it did.
Friday, February 12, 2010 8:18 AM
Quote:Shouldn't Wulfie or Rappy be here to tell us he really was, and it's all just a librul conspiracy or something....
Quote:closed your mind to logic and reason, so why should I even bother ?
Friday, February 12, 2010 9:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: And you're still whining about the non issue w/ massive and plenty? Seriously, you've never once been able fully finish the touching up your silly straman here.
Quote: I was using 2 different words to describe 2 different things. There's no reason I should deny I posted it, only in what ever the hell it was you were falsely claiming I said. Which still remains a mystery. See, if you'd only focus on what I *DO* say, instead of trying to twist my words and dreaming up shit to vilify me for, then you could keep your story straight, and wouldn't get all tangled up in lies and distortions.
Quote:But you have your " way ". I suppose.
Friday, February 12, 2010 10:01 AM
Quote: Oh, it's very plain enough to see. It always has been. I wasn't USING Story in any way, and wasn't in the least bit 'whining'. It's others who have the ax to grind, which say a great deal more about them ( you ) than it does me. Were it not for the history of it all, I'd find this mildly amusing. But instead, it's a bit sad, to be honest.
Friday, February 12, 2010 11:07 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Friday, February 12, 2010 12:45 PM
Quote:I see how it is now. You respond (to any mention of you?) without thinking, or even caring what the issue is about...
Quote: then complain that you were attacked/misunderstood/whatever, and go on to say you "had" to respond because you were asked a question and if you DIDN'T respond, X would happen. Notice Wulf didn't take the bait, probably recognized it for the snark it was, and either didn't find it worth his time to respond or wasn't interested in the issue at hand. Nobody accused him of running, nor would they have accused you.
Quote:So I see your method completely now, and will remember in future. Not sure if it indicates you're not very bright, or that you're so determined to stir up trouble tha it's deliberate. Either way, it's pathetic.
Friday, February 12, 2010 12:59 PM
Quote:I've been falsely accused of ducking questions
Quote:Or Wulf didn't see it.. OR Wulf hasn't had the same history as I have on this forum... OR... maybe,..I'm not Wulf ? Gee, different folks respond differently. Shocker, huh?
Friday, February 12, 2010 8:13 PM
Friday, February 12, 2010 10:56 PM
GINOBIFFARONI
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Quote:I've been falsely accused of ducking questionsIT WASN'T A QUESTION, NOR DIRECTED AT YOU PERSONALLY, it was a snark ABOUT YOU ande Wulf; I realize this appears to be a difficult concept for you to understand, but please do try. You still have never even acknowledged that, just gone on to whinge and moan and point fingers. It's amazing. You didn't set no record straight--you took off on a rant because of your own jumping into a thread to respond to a snark, then kept insisting it was Story's fault and that you were being picked on! WE set the record straight by showing you clearly the chronology of posts--another thing you seem to have difficulty grasping...Quote:Or Wulf didn't see it.. OR Wulf hasn't had the same history as I have on this forum... OR... maybe,..I'm not Wulf ? Gee, different folks respond differently. Shocker, huh?OR you jumped in without thinking or even reading what the thread was about... OR you inserted yourself in the thread to get attention... OR you wanted to provoke people so you could whine about how you're treated... OR you just like stirring things up. Gee, could be any, or more than one... The bottom line is that YOU inserted YOURSELF in response to a humorous snark, responded in such a way as to cause others to believe you were disagreeing with the statement made in Story's post, then took off on one of the thread-jacking, assinine flame wars you seem to be particularly good at starting. That's all there is to this thread, and it didn't deserve that much. I'm beginning to think you have dyslexia or some other difficulty which causes you to be unable to track simple things. Either that or it's deliberate; in which case, it's pretty sad.
Saturday, February 13, 2010 7:59 AM
Saturday, February 13, 2010 9:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: I shouldn't laugh, Gino, but it IS funny. Dyslexia runs in my husband's family, both his brothers and his son have it. It means being VERY careful in giving directions, and to this day it's "down to Washington" and "up to L.A." when he speaks of them. We joke about it, but it's got to be very difficult to live with. Nonetheless: right on!
Saturday, February 13, 2010 9:58 AM
Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:55 AM
Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: When did I say he was a citizen???? Now you're just making shit up. Or have you just given up entirely on trying to read? I was just wondering which entirely made-up "facts" you were referring to.....? Clearly, yet another RapFact - inconsistent with reality. Did you chew on too much lead paint as a child ? I quoted your post, directly, and then commented on the quote. I didn't make up any " shit ", I didn't " lie ", all you're doing is taking the cowards way out and instantly resorting to childish name calling and accusing me of replying to imaginary quotes which you yourself made. Where's that get fun, exactly? Makes you look like a total ass, is all. Director: Bureau of Bigfoot Affairs
Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote: He asked you to explain the reason and logic behind claiming the man was a U.S. citizen, to which you asked if he "isn't a citizen?" and portraying Story as saying he *IS*, which he clearly never said. So yes, you're making shit up, and you're a liar. Clearly, that's not what was in Story's quote, which is what I went on , so your claim that I *knew* is fallacious and patently absurd. But then, we are talking about YOU.
Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:45 AM
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