Anyone remember this? Dick Cheney saying he wished one of the "torture memos" would be released, because it would vindicate him that they got vital info..."/>
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Cheney's famous memos lie...and more
Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:49 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:"One of the things that I find a little bit disturbing about this recent disclosure is that they put out the legal memos... but they didn't put out the memos that show the success of the effort," Mr Cheney told Fox News. Cheney told Fox News back in April last year: “There are reports that show specifically what we gained as a result of this activity. They have not been declassified. I formally ask that they be declassified now.”
Quote:“A crucial CIA memo that has been cited by former Vice President Dick Cheney and other former Bush administration officials as justifying the effectiveness of waterboarding contained “plainly inaccurate information” that undermined its conclusions, according to Justice Department investigators.”
Quote:These legal memoranda demonstrate in alarming detail exactly what the Bush administration authorized for "high value detainees" in U.S. custody. The techniques are chilling... We cannot continue to look the other way; we need to understand how these policies were formed if we are to ensure that this can never happen again. This is why my proposal for a Commission of Inquiry is necessary.
Quote:Even more shocking is the interview back in December 2005 between Prof. Doug Cassel and John Yoo: Cassel: “If the President deems he’s got to torture somebody, including crushing the testicles of the person’s child, there is no law that can stop him?” Yoo: No treaty. Cassel: Also no law by Congress—that is what you wrote in the August 2002 memo. Yoo: I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that. A Justice Department report on what John Yoo did is also quoted as saying this under questioning: Question: What about ordering a village of resistants to be massacred...is that a power that the President could legally apply... Yoo: Yeah. Let me say this. Though certainly fall within the Commander-in-Chief’s power over tactical decisions. Question: To order a village of civilians exterminated? Yoo: Sure.
Tuesday, February 23, 2010 3:45 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Tuesday, February 23, 2010 3:52 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Tuesday, February 23, 2010 3:59 PM
GINOBIFFARONI
Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:13 PM
Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:25 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Of course TPTB don't care. That is their power, not ours. But if anyone is going to be vicitmized by this kind of bullshit it's us. So it matters to US, even if it's a useful tool for THEM.
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