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Season 2 and 3 were great IMO.

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Originally posted by Zeek:


Season 2 and 3 were great IMO.

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Seasons 2 & 3 were the eye-popping seasons. The OMG seasons.
But as a real old guy (as lettuce goes), I have to like the responsibility eps better. The shagging of Spike & its' fallout. The fall of the First.


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"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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Originally posted by Zeek:


Season 2 and 3 were great IMO.

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Seasons 2 & 3 were the eye-popping seasons. The OMG seasons.
But as a real old guy (as lettuce goes), I have to like the responsibility eps better. The shagging of Spike & its' fallout. The fall of the First.


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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This is a good question and a tough one for me to answer. It's easier to pick fave seasons or episodes than groups of seasons.

Most of the points already made about season arcs, big bads, individual episodes etc are all valied and I can agree with them.

For me the first three seasons was more about Buffy accepting who she really was and that whatever life outside of this she could have it would never be normal, she could never escape her slayer destiny.
Then by seasons 4+5 she had accepted her destiny but the show placed her out of her normal comfort zone (for lack of a better term) but still kept her within the school system. The ultimate realisation that if her death saved people then it was worth it, it's part of what being a slayer means.
Then 6+7 put her completely out of place. She had her destiny still but now had to fight to just want to stay alive, both literally and with real world issues. These overall had a much darker tone. None of the gang was in a good place and they were effectively fighting themselves for who they were.

So I'm going to stand on the fence and say that both High School and post High School Buffy were great either as a group of seasons or because of the sum of their parts. With maybe a slight lean towards High School Buffy.



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" She wouldn't do this, even knowing the cost... She is a hero

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The idea of Glory a banished god is a good one as a concept but she's kind of played like a cartoon character. Her schtick for me is too MTV.

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Season Six is just not my cup of tea. The attempt at maturity guised as melodrama falls flat. At least for me and the idea that the villains are now the geeks is just so beneath Buffy... Buffy who is a Vampire Slayer. A Slayer of ancient and mystical evils finding her age old skills utilized for nothing more than adolescents who enact their comic book fantasies... Nah. It bites! I just cannot re-watch this season. And I've tried!

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Season Seven does go a long way to reclaiming the 'character' that was Buffy. It's richer, more fun and yet still with moments of genuine menace to make the hairs on the old neck rise again. And that's great! It looks fresher, some additional characters add genuine depth to the season: The conflict between the Principle, Spike and Buffy is strong stuff and reflects the kind of twists we were so accustomed to having when Angel was around. We have Faith, Caleb and the Slayerettes who like them or loath them gave us something extra to ponder about. And frankly hating one or two of them often helped with watching the episodes as you witnessed their grizzly deaths with morbid delight.

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As for Season Four I dunno were to put it,
... the whole government fighting monsters thing... It's just plain bananas!

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And ultimately there's no real reason why Buffy didn't just take Dawn away from Sunnydale to avoid the threat of Glory in the first place?

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At least for me the idea that the villains are now the geeks is just so beneath Buffy.

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I thought of this myself at the time and came up with the answer that she wouldn't run away from her duties and responsibilities. At the start they had no idea what they were dealing with, either with the Key or with Glory, so (to me) they saw no point in running. And when they did try to get away in the mobile home they failed. Plus the Key had been sent to Buffy for protection when the monks could have just hidden it again. I always took it to mean that Glory was too close to finding it and they knew a fight was coming or at least that she'd find the Key so who better to protect something than a slayer.

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I would add though that I thought they should have had her go darker a couple of episodes earlier but without the other Scoobies realising. Then have Tara's death push her right over.

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
what is this less than perfect episode in season three you speak of?

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Adolescents acting like adolescents on a show.... about adolescents?


Surely not!

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what is this less than perfect episode in season three you speak of?

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My bad, it's "Him" I was thinking of, not in that season. Ooops (that's the only ep of 7 I wasn't thrilled with)!


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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Honestly, the whole Cordelia/Xander thing in 3 was kinda, I dunno, SO adolescent... I could have done without it. But again (& conversely), that's a thing that I think DVD viewing sorta trivializes, month by month it prolly worked more effectively.

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