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The NRA and Washington

POSTED BY: NIKI2
UPDATED: Monday, May 17, 2010 06:58
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Sunday, May 16, 2010 8:34 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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Association's annual leadership forum on Friday touted Second Amendment rights and also set their sights on the upcoming midterm elections.

Sarah Palin told the crowd in Charlotte, North Carolina, that the "lamestream media" is using propaganda to make guns seem more dangerous -- and not the criminals behind them.

"Criminals, of course, are to blame for crimes. It's the bad guys, not the piece of metal, that's to blame," she told the crowd. "Anti-Second Amendment gun laws don't offend them [criminals] -- they don't care what kind of gun laws are passed."

When politicians attempt to ban guns, "all they do is take them away from law-abiding citizens and we use them responsibly," Palin said.

Earlier, Haley Barbour, chairman of the Republican Governors Association, used his speech to rally support not only for gun rights, but for energized involvement in this year's midterm elections.

The Mississippi governor told conservatives that they should not wait until 2012 to retake political control of the country. Instead, Barbour said, conservatives should focus on 2010, in what he calls "an enormous election."

Sen. John Thune, R-South Dakota, told the crowd there are two competing visions about the future of the country.

"One consists of more government and less freedom, and one consists of less government and more freedom," he said. "And right now, unfortunately, the prevailing vision in Washington D.C. is that of government. More and more government."

So how influential is the NRA in the current political climate? It's hard to tell in the wake of two hotly contested Republican primary battles.

Sen. Bob Bennett, R-Utah, had a high NRA rating and lost his bid to run in Utah's Republican primary. Former Sen. Dan Coates, who is opposed by the NRA, won the Indiana Republican primary, beating four other candidates. He now goes on to face Rep. Brad Ellsworth, a Democrat.

Despite those races, one marketing strategist said politicians are still more apt to seek the NRA's support than oppose it.

"In many ways they are better off going with the NRA, getting their support or avoiding their opposition as opposed to raising their ire," said Michael Maslansky.

Obama, however, isn't necessarily fighting hard for gun control. He signed bills that allow guns on national parks and on Amtrak trains.

But perhaps it's the NRA lobbying arm in Congress which has a stronger influence. The group is backing a federal bill that would nullify the district's ban on semiautomatic weapons.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/14/nra.meeting/index.html

I'm not commenting for or against gun rights. I just find it fascinating that the NRA is gearing up for a battle, considering what he's DONE since in office is make it legal to have guns in national parks and Amtrack trains...


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Sunday, May 16, 2010 9:07 AM

FREMDFIRMA



I know!

I keep tellin the gunbunnies they OUGHT to be writing him thank you notes, but most of em can't seem to wrap their mind around the idea of a Democrat who respects the second amendment.

And it's not like Palin and her ilk give a shit, they're just trying to play a wedge issue since she's sinking like an anvil politically with anyone who has half a brain, so she's appealing to the bucktoothed redneck crowd who see anything that isn't a christian zealot theocracy as a threat to their very existance, which is a damn small subset of the gunbunnies but a freakin scary one all the same - and she's as nuts as they are and one tenth as competent.

As for the NRA, like most orgs of that type, over the years they've reached the point where getting the money out of you *IS* the point, their original cause and purpose lost in the pursuit of power and money originally intended to protect a right, but now used mostly to protect their own cushy lifestyles and influence - I think they're a buncha useless wimps who will roll over in a heartbeat whenever things get sticky, and that's been proven out time and time again ever since they ran screaming from the idea of Ted Nugent being their chairman...

Not that I thought that was a good idea myself, but still, watching THAT was hilarious.

I don't hang with the NRA anyways, although they *do* serve a couple useful purposes in making firearm safety classes available and affordable, but that's an incidental benefit rather than an intentional one.

I am with the JFPO, a fact which prolly sends PN into little screaming circles and sticks in the craw of those who would otherwise accuse me of antisemetism, but for a fact those folks *know* what happens when governments get around to disarming folk "for their own good", and as such tend to stay true to the objective cause of personal family stake in the matter.
http://www.jpfo.org/

But yes, it's kinda funny to watch this mess...

I think it might also be that the NRA is feeling a bit of financial pain since the much vaunted assault on second amendment rights predicated by them hasn't come, and folks are wondering what they need those bastards and their CONSTANT NON STOP SPAMMING AND BEGGING for money for anyway.

So I figure enough folks have cut em off that they're feeling it, and they wanna wind up the booga booga - which, might be a wee little bit more credible if they didn't trot out that wacko Palin, who's very presence and support of the NRA makes every decent and responsible gun owner fucking *cringe*... seriously, bitch, get OFF my side!

All in all, it's kinda sad, kinda funny, and all too perfect an example of how that organisation has failed it's intended purpose - if they *really* meant any of that bullshit, they'd be trying to shut down ACTA, you know ?

Stupid idjits.

-F

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Sunday, May 16, 2010 10:52 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Most of the recent NRA stuff I've seen isn't going after Pres. Obama so much as it is folks like Bloomberg and Pelosi who are actively pushing for tougher gun control laws.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Monday, May 17, 2010 4:18 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by Geezer:
Most of the recent NRA stuff I've seen isn't going after Pres. Obama so much as it is folks like Bloomberg and Pelosi who are actively pushing for tougher gun control laws.

"Keep the Shiny side up"




Which is why Sarah Palin specifically named President Obama in her NRA speech, claiming that "if he thought he could get away with it" he'd ban guns and ban ammunition and "gut the Second Amendment". And so far as I've seen, she's getting MOST of the attention at the NRA meeting, despite having a complete lack of facts behind her.

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Monday, May 17, 2010 5:53 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


When has lack of facts ever stood in Sarahcuda's way? I thought that was the whole idea, a "down-home gal" who doesn't know shit from shinolah, by by gawd knows what she WANTS!

Actually, as a Senator Obama did promote an anti-gun agenda--well, rather a gun REGULATION agenda, and he's made some mumbles about regulation since becoming Prez. But he hasn't DONE anything--it's like the cry of "He's raised taxes!". Hasn't yet, but he may in the future. Just silly they'd make such a big fuss considering what his ACTIONS have been, to me.


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Monday, May 17, 2010 6:58 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Well, the NRA wants money, yanno - their upper crust has a lifestyle to maintain and all that...

Oh, yeah, that right to bear arms thing, yeah, yeah that's what we meant, really, it was!
*sneers*

-F

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