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Internet Kill Switch

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Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:02 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

If they want to protect critical infrastructure, they can give that infrastructure an independent communication system and each individual high-importance system can have its own individual shutoff from the web.

Leave the web on for the rest of us. There's no reason to shut Piratenews down in order to protect your neighborhood nuclear reactor.

--Anthony


Due to the use of Naomi 3.3.2 Beta web filtering, the following people may need to private-message me if they wish to contact me: Auraptor, Kaneman, Piratenews, Wulfenstar. I apologize for the inconvenience.

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Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:17 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Wouldn't work anyways, there's still Telnet, Samzidat, and many other venues, as said, you can't stop the signal.

-F

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Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:09 PM

CITIZEN


You can't "shut off" the internet. The Internet isn't a real thing that actually exists, it's just the name we give to a global area network of computers. The only way to shut it off, would be to turn off every computer in the world. They can probably freeze ISPs operating within said country, or put a filter on like China does, but that won't affect anyone else, and so will, in no way shape or form, constitute shutting the internet off.

Way do you think governments can be so scared of the damn thing? No one can control it.

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 12:13 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

If they want to protect critical infrastructure, they can give that infrastructure an independent communication system and each individual high-importance system can have its own individual shutoff from the web.

Leave the web on for the rest of us. There's no reason to shut Piratenews down in order to protect your neighborhood nuclear reactor.

--Anthony


Due to the use of Naomi 3.3.2 Beta web filtering, the following people may need to private-message me if they wish to contact me: Auraptor, Kaneman, Piratenews, Wulfenstar. I apologize for the inconvenience.



That's hilarious, especially coming from a web filtering candy-ass. Priceless...

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 3:06 AM

DREAMTROVE


Obama man.

Anthony,

In case you are really filtering and not just posting that you do, Kaneman just pointed out the irony of your post and sits signature.


Frem,

Yes but you can stop the signal from reaching the vast majority of the people.


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Thursday, June 24, 2010 6:16 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


"Anthony,

In case you are really filtering and not just posting that you do, Kaneman just pointed out the irony of your post and sits signature."

Hello,

If someone can't tell the difference between choosing something and having something chosen for them, how can I possibly educate them? Suicide and Homicide must seem identical to those folks. Right along with going home after work and being thrown in jail, or being robbed and donating money to charity, or even having consensual sex and being raped.

*sigh*

I'm sure there is irony, but it's not in my post or my signature.


--Anthony

Due to the use of Naomi 3.3.2 Beta web filtering, the following people may need to private-message me if they wish to contact me: Auraptor, Kaneman, Piratenews, Wulfenstar. I apologize for the inconvenience.

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:49 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

If they want to protect critical infrastructure, they can give that infrastructure an independent communication system and each individual high-importance system can have its own individual shutoff from the web.
Silly man. That makes too much sense; you expect the government to act sensibly??

As it IS, I've been hearing how open our governmental system is to hacking, and they haven't fixed it yet. Duh...

And while you can't shut down the internet, hasn't China been quite effective in blocking parts of it from their people?

The bill, from what I hear, has been taken bck anyway, and I don't think it would have a snowball's chance in hell of passing even if it weren't. Americans are as hot on their "free speech rights" as they are on the Second Amendment.

Although, they WERE willing to forego a lot of rights after 9/11--fear does strange things to people, sadly.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off


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To Anthony, unquestionably the most civil person on this forum: “Go fuck yourself. On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. ...Raptor

To Frem: “You miserable piece of shit.” ...Raptor

To Niki: “My guess is it won't just be your ugly face you dislike.....Well, it's true......if you had a soul.” ...Raptor

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:54 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
"Anthony,

In case you are really filtering and not just posting that you do, Kaneman just pointed out the irony of your post and sits signature."

Hello,

If someone can't tell the difference between choosing something and having something chosen for them, how can I possibly educate them? Suicide and Homicide must seem identical to those folks. Right along with going home after work and being thrown in jail, or being robbed and donating money to charity, or even having consensual sex and being raped.

*sigh*

I'm sure there is irony, but it's not in my post or my signature.


--Anthony

Due to the use of Naomi 3.3.2 Beta web filtering, the following people may need to private-message me if they wish to contact me: Auraptor, Kaneman, Piratenews, Wulfenstar. I apologize for the inconvenience.



Anthony,

Right on.

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:05 AM

DREAMTROVE


Anthony,

Jes funnin. But hey, lighten up. Oh, and You sort of just your own argument there.

to say this
Quote:


. There's no reason to shut Piratenews down in order to protect your neighborhood nuclear reactor.
... Naomi 3.3.2 Beta web filtering, ..., Kaneman, Piratenews...


And to not realize the inherent contradiction... jes saying is all



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Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:09 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Niki,

I'm not sure it's been "taken back". Last I heard, LIEberman and Susan Collins were pushing it again.


While it's true that you can't really *shut down* the internet, you CAN severely impinge people's access to it, to information sources, to news of the outside world, etc. Your mention of China is a good example. You CAN get real news in China, but the act of doing so makes you a criminal.

So, while you can't really stop the signal, you CAN quite sharply up the penalties for unauthorized access to that signal. And this is what I fear is at the heart of this movement - the idea that since we're always "in a state of war", there's never a bad time to clamp down on information access. Control the access, you control the news. Control the news, you control the thoughts of the masses.


"I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal."


On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:12 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Anthony,

Jes funnin. But hey, lighten up. Oh, and You sort of just your own argument there.

to say this
Quote:


. There's no reason to shut Piratenews down in order to protect your neighborhood nuclear reactor.
... Naomi 3.3.2 Beta web filtering, ..., Kaneman, Piratenews...


And to not realize the inherent contradiction... jes saying is all






Dream,

Anthony didn't "shut down" PN, or anyone else. He ignored them.

Are you now suggesting that we don't have the right to ignore one another? We can't say, "I have no interest in anything you might ever say, so I will not pay you any mind, ever, but feel free to keep blathering away"?

Anthony is limiting ANTHONY'S access to PN's drivel, not PN's right to post said drivel, and not YOUR right to read it.

I don't see what about that you can't wrap your head around.


"I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal."


On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:24 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

1) I don't believe FOX news should be shut down by the government.
2) I don't watch FOX news.

If these statements seem contradictory or ironical to you, you are malfunctioning.

--Anthony

Due to the use of Naomi 3.3.2 Beta web filtering, the following people may need to private-message me if they wish to contact me: Auraptor, Kaneman, Piratenews, Wulfenstar. I apologize for the inconvenience.

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:01 AM

DREAMTROVE


Okay, the lack fo a sense of humor is spreading. I was just forwarding the message form Kaneman that it was an ironic juxtaposition. I'm surprised that you defended it at all.

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:12 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I suppose our senses of humor and our senses of irony are different.

--Anthony

Due to the use of Naomi 3.3.2 Beta web filtering, the following people may need to private-message me if they wish to contact me: Auraptor, Kaneman, Piratenews, Wulfenstar. I apologize for the inconvenience.

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:18 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Anthony,

Jes funnin. But hey, lighten up. Oh, and You sort of just your own argument there.

to say this
Quote:


. There's no reason to shut Piratenews down in order to protect your neighborhood nuclear reactor.
... Naomi 3.3.2 Beta web filtering, ..., Kaneman, Piratenews...


And to not realize the inherent contradiction... jes saying is all






Dream,

Anthony didn't "shut down" PN, or anyone else. He ignored them.

Are you now suggesting that we don't have the right to ignore one another? We can't say, "I have no interest in anything you might ever say, so I will not pay you any mind, ever, but feel free to keep blathering away"?

Anthony is limiting ANTHONY'S access to PN's drivel, not PN's right to post said drivel, and not YOUR right to read it.

I don't see what about that you can't wrap your head around.


Exactly. Anthony not listening to Kaneman doesn't stop Kaneman from spouting his/hers/whatever unique brand of witless violent and pointless drivel.

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