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Friday, July 2, 2010 10:27 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I wasted a bit of time going back in time to check some stuff out. Gosh, it was fun, and I learned a lot about Crappy "over the years". Now, I freely grant you that a portion of these things are what he “knew” at the time, and which changed later, but it speaks to the blind approval and lack of foresight of the Dumbya administration, it’s words and it’s actions.
Quote:

August 13, 2005: “When has Bush done anything but keep his word ?”

May 6, 2006: “After all, Bush was responsible for some damn good choices.

October 3, 2006: “Bush never once said Gitmo 'has to be ended'. To the contrary, he specifically said he would NOT close Gitmo, and is proud of the purpose for which it serves.”

August 8, 2007:” Bush, keeping America safe from Islamic Terrorist for 6+ years sicne 9/11, while cutting taxes, increasing revenue to the Treasury with 4 1/2 years of steady, economic growth” ... “there was no Illegal wiretapping, so excuse Bush for that too”

August 11, 2007 (defending the Katrina response): “it is imparitive that the state and local Governments acts as the primary responders” ... “The Fed Gov't can't and should never be expected to keep us safe from everything, all the time, everywhere”

Same day: “We invaded Iraq because , after 10 yrs of sanctions, it did not live up to the obligations the U.N. had determined necessary ... “Iraq was invaded because it left us no choice

August 12, 2007: “Under Bush, the U.S. took in more tax revenue in history.” (Sig posted figures showing that untrue) “We have record revenues under Bush. Sorry, but they simply are ... Fed Revenue under Bush is higher than under Clinton. Had the US spent LESS than a drunken sailor, we'd have a surplus budget now. Had the US spent less than a buzzed sailor, our defecit would be less than 1/2 of what it is now. But we didn't, so it'll take longer to balance the budget. BFD."

Same day: "Aren't you glad we have real growth under Bush rather than the phony crap that Clinton's administration touted from the Dot Com charade ?” (Leadb:) “Dot com charade under Clinton... yeh, that was interesting. I am personally hoping the Bush housing bubble manages to 'soft land'.”

March 8, 2008: “Bush is a fine American”

March 6, 2008: “Where ahs Bush lied ? Don't compare Bush to a pathological liar ( Clinton ) when he isn't.... Bush didn't lie per Iraq. Get over it.
July 6, 2008: “Bush lied in his SOTU speech.”
July 8, 2008: “Mikey, what did Bush lie about ?”

March 11, 2008: “We don't torture.
March 12, 2008: “We don't torture.... WE DON'T DO THAT, MORON. ... Frem, you're a liar, a moron and an idiot ... We don't torture, and no matter how many times you suggest we do, I'll be right here, correcting you.”

September 22, 2008 (in response to Malbadinlatin, who said “I cite Iraq, the economy, and coming soon...energy shortages and environmental disasters. When Obama wins he will be saddled with an economy that waits for four to eight years for people to buy houses again. And a goat fuck of a war...among many other goodies Obama will inherit”): “There will be no envirmental disasters, any more than happens on a routine schedule. We need not worry about Obama winning. So he won't have to be burdened w/ anything.”

Jan 20, 2009: “Since Bush committed no crimes, there's no possible chance he can get arrested.”



What FUN that was!




Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off


“Mr. President--you're a god damn, mother fucking liar. Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.... oh, go fuck yourself, Mr. President” ”Anthony--go fuck yourself...make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard” ”Frem--You miserable piece of shit” ”Niki--My guess is it won't just be your ugly face you dislike....if you had a soul.” ”Kwicko--You're the putrid slime which oozes between troll's toes, you're so low.” ...sayeth Raptor

...remember, remember, the ugliest member...

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Friday, July 2, 2010 10:32 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
I wasted a bit of time going back in time to check some stuff out. Gosh, it was fun, and I learned a lot about Crappy "over the years". Now, I freely grant you that a portion of these things are what he “knew” at the time, and which changed later, but it speaks to the blind approval and lack of foresight of the Dumbya administration, it’s words and it’s actions.
Quote:

August 13, 2005: “When has Bush done anything but keep his word ?”

May 6, 2006: “After all, Bush was responsible for some damn good choices.

October 3, 2006: “Bush never once said Gitmo 'has to be ended'. To the contrary, he specifically said he would NOT close Gitmo, and is proud of the purpose for which it serves.”

August 8, 2007:” Bush, keeping America safe from Islamic Terrorist for 6+ years sicne 9/11, while cutting taxes, increasing revenue to the Treasury with 4 1/2 years of steady, economic growth” ... “there was no Illegal wiretapping, so excuse Bush for that too”

August 11, 2007 (defending the Katrina response): “it is imparitive that the state and local Governments acts as the primary responders” ... “The Fed Gov't can't and should never be expected to keep us safe from everything, all the time, everywhere”

Same day: “We invaded Iraq because , after 10 yrs of sanctions, it did not live up to the obligations the U.N. had determined necessary ... “Iraq was invaded because it left us no choice

August 12, 2007: “Under Bush, the U.S. took in more tax revenue in history.” (Sig posted figures showing that untrue) “We have record revenues under Bush. Sorry, but they simply are ... Fed Revenue under Bush is higher than under Clinton. Had the US spent LESS than a drunken sailor, we'd have a surplus budget now. Had the US spent less than a buzzed sailor, our defecit would be less than 1/2 of what it is now. But we didn't, so it'll take longer to balance the budget. BFD."

Same day: "Aren't you glad we have real growth under Bush rather than the phony crap that Clinton's administration touted from the Dot Com charade ?” (Leadb:) “Dot com charade under Clinton... yeh, that was interesting. I am personally hoping the Bush housing bubble manages to 'soft land'.”

March 8, 2008: “Bush is a fine American”

March 6, 2008: “Where ahs Bush lied ? Don't compare Bush to a pathological liar ( Clinton ) when he isn't.... Bush didn't lie per Iraq. Get over it.
July 6, 2008: “Bush lied in his SOTU speech.”
July 8, 2008: “Mikey, what did Bush lie about ?”

March 11, 2008: “We don't torture.
March 12, 2008: “We don't torture.... WE DON'T DO THAT, MORON. ... Frem, you're a liar, a moron and an idiot ... We don't torture, and no matter how many times you suggest we do, I'll be right here, correcting you.”

September 22, 2008 (in response to Malbadinlatin, who said “I cite Iraq, the economy, and coming soon...energy shortages and environmental disasters. When Obama wins he will be saddled with an economy that waits for four to eight years for people to buy houses again. And a goat fuck of a war...among many other goodies Obama will inherit”): “There will be no envirmental disasters, any more than happens on a routine schedule. We need not worry about Obama winning. So he won't have to be burdened w/ anything.”

Jan 20, 2009: “Since Bush committed no crimes, there's no possible chance he can get arrested.”



What FUN that was!




Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off


“Mr. President--you're a god damn, mother fucking liar. Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.... oh, go fuck yourself, Mr. President” ”Anthony--go fuck yourself...make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard” ”Frem--You miserable piece of shit” ”Niki--My guess is it won't just be your ugly face you dislike....if you had a soul.” ”Kwicko--You're the putrid slime which oozes between troll's toes, you're so low.” ...sayeth Raptor

...remember, remember, the ugliest member...

And yet you bitch and whine when someone posts a thread that centers around YOU! I'll show you fun!

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Friday, July 2, 2010 10:38 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.



title rebooted from original disk

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Friday, July 2, 2010 10:41 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Thank you for your courtesy, Rose.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off


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Friday, July 2, 2010 2:24 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


I stand by every thing I said. I was correct then as I am now.

Thanks for verifying my views, Nik.

- Livin' in the hearts and minds of Lefties... rent free.





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Friday, July 2, 2010 5:49 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I stand by every thing I said. I was correct then as I am now.

Thanks for verifying my views, Nik.

- Livin' in the hearts and minds of Lefties... rent free.








Yup, you were every bit as correct then as you are now. Which is to say, not one scintilla, not the merest iota.


I'm wondering though, Niki - was this BP gusherfuck one of those "routinely scheduled" environmental disasters that Rappy said we'd have from time to time, which are no big deal?

Although I'm heartened that Rappy stands by his claim that the deficits are no big deal, and the only thing they mean is that it will take a little longer to balance the budget, but BFD, right?

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Sunday, July 4, 2010 7:57 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Forgot about this one, it slipped down the list.

Yup, Mike, this is one of those "envirnmental disasters" that won't happen..."any more than happens on a routine schedule". That's why he's so pissed about it that he can't think or talk straight lately. He figures this will happen on a routine schedule...and the routine seems to be off.

But I AM heartened as well to know he thinks deficits are no problem, so obviously he'll cut Obama as much slack as he did that "fine American" Dumbya. Yes, siree...

The fact that he thinks he was right about all that should be sufficient to show everyone where he's coming from, that he'll never admit being wrong, and the fact that he is totally irrelevant and responding to him is a waste of time. End of story.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off


“Mr. President--you're a god damn, mother fucking liar. Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.... oh, go fuck yourself, Mr. President” ”Anthony--go fuck yourself...make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard” ”Frem--You miserable piece of shit” ”Niki--My guess is it won't just be your ugly face you dislike....if you had a soul.” ”Kwicko--You're the putrid slime which oozes between troll's toes, you're so low.” ...sayeth Raptor

...Remember, remember, the ugliest member...

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Sunday, July 4, 2010 8:02 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Bush ran far smaller deficits than Obama will, so I don't know wtf y'all are even bringing up the issue.



But, again, I can take some comfort and satisfaction that, on this holiday weekend, I'm still residing rent free in your heads.

Ahhhh... roomy!






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Sunday, July 4, 2010 2:57 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Except that that graph is 100% erroneous.

Bush's final fiscal year deficit was actually $1.2 TRILLION. Look it up. You like to conveniently discount everything that he didn't bother to include in the budget, like his two wars and his $800 billion bank bailouts.

And again, you had NO problem with deficits, then. Only now. As you said, these deficits only mean it will take a little longer to balance the budget, right? BFD, eh?

And obviously, we're all living in YOUR head, too, right? Peek-a-boo. ;)

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Sunday, July 4, 2010 6:22 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Last I checked, 1.2 trillion is far less than 1.85 trillion.

Look it up.


And Obama's lowest deficit still far exceeds all other of Bush's 7 other years.





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Monday, July 5, 2010 2:20 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


So, as far as you're concerned, then, deficits ONLY count when they top $1.2 trillion, right? If Obama were to spend, say 1.199999 trillion dollars, you'd have no beef with him at all, because he spent less than Bush. Right?

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Monday, July 5, 2010 6:45 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

1.2 trillion is far less than 1.85 trillion
You ARE joking, yes? THAT's what you choose to "crow" about? When Obama came IN with a 1.2 trillion deficit, two wars and a ruined country, as opposed to Dumbya coming in with a SURPLUS, no wars, and a country on the upswing, if he'd just handled it halfway decently?

That is truly, truly sad...that all you can boast about of all those things you said--the vast majority of which have been proven wrong--is a .6 trillion difference? You DID say exactly "take longer to balance the budget. BFD" That's "Big fucking deal", right? So it's absurd for it to be a big fucking deal for it to take even a bit longer, since you were quite content to settle for a $1.2 trillion deficit! Aside from which, projections mean nothing--let's see where we stand after four years...or eight! Betcha it'll be less than Bush...wanna bet? I'll keep the text if you do so I can shove it up your nose if it happens.

Face it, Crappy...you're REALLY reaching to trash Obama if you're trying to compare him to Dumbya. To focus on the deficit, compared to Gitmo, two wars, lies to get us into both, etc., is weak as hell anyway. To put it in your own vernacular, you were "sucking Bush's dick" the entire time he was in office, even tho' everything you said turned out to be a lie.

I have no doubt you'll try to spin this, but your own words condemn you, and you can't escape that.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off



“Mr. President--you're a god damn, mother fucking liar. Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.... oh, go fuck yourself, Mr. President” ”Anthony--go fuck yourself...make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard” ”Frem--You miserable piece of shit” ”Niki--My guess is it won't just be your ugly face you dislike....if you had a soul.” ”Kwicko--You're the putrid slime which oozes between troll's toes, you're so low.” ...sayeth Raptor

...Remember, remember, the ugliest member...

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Monday, July 5, 2010 7:24 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Wait a minute, Niki - are you suggesting that a $1.2 trillion deficit is somehow worse than a $400 billion surplus?

Now you're just being a Bush-hater. ;)




You don't get how RapLogic™ works, obviously. Bush's recession early on was really Clinton's recession (of course), and 9/11 was really a Clinton terrorism problem, and the two wars were caused by Democrat Presidents - Iraq was obviously Clinton's fault, for not taking Saddam out the first time around (never mind all that fuzzy thinking that you're no doubt engaged in right now, thinking that it was Bush the Elder who engaged in that war; you're just misremembering it, is all), while Afghanistan was completely a war of Obama's choosing. There was this little-known state senator from Illinois who MADE Dubya invade Afghanistan after Clinton attacked us on 9/11.

How can you not remember any of that?

Now, this LATER recession and economic collapse in 2007-08? Yeah, that was the result of the Clinton presidency, but was actually brought on by the upcoming election of Obama. Never mind that Rappy pointed out at the time that McCain had locked up the election and couldn't POSSIBLY lose - that's just fuzzy thinking and misremembering again; your mind will fool you if you let it!

Also, Bush never tortured anybody, and if you say he did, then it just proves how much you hate America. Bush only ever did good things, he shits rainbows and farts through silk. If you disagree, again it's only because you hate America.

Oh, and if you ever find ANYTHING positive to say about Clinton or Obama, then that's again because you hate America.

Welcome to Rappy's head. Check your facts at the door; you'll not need them here.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Monday, July 5, 2010 8:43 AM

MAL4PREZ


Niki,

Thank you for the history. I'm sometimes tempted to dig up some of Rappy's old comments to show when he directly contradicts his old lines, but it's so much work!

However, I must say that you're getting a bit stalkerish. A thread like this does nothing but increase Auraptor's presence on these boards. I've noticed before, but not commented, that you seem to be looking for some declaration of victory. You seem to be hoping for a Guiding Hand of Internet Deity to reach down, smack everyone in the forehead and declare that Crappy is wrong and you are right, after which the Crapman will grovel and beg forgiveness.

It's just not ever going to happen, Niki. Auraptor's blinders are too powerful to be broken. I understand that you want to call out his BS, but singling him out for attack like this will not help your cause. In fact, it'll likely win him sympathy, and give him a soapbox to stand on. Folks like Rappy are nothing but empowered by being made a victim. It fits their worldview. Meantime, you reduce yourself to little but an anti-Auraptor.

Anyway, not sure what good I'll do by posting this, but I have to try. As much as I detest Rappy's dishonest debate techniques and twisted political opinions, I would speak up if someone started a thread like this about anyone else. Guess I have to speak up for him too. I don't want this site to be all about dog-piling the person we don't like. (Didn't you experience before you came here? Why would you do it to someone else?)


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Monday, July 5, 2010 9:10 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Niki might be looking for some sort of declaration of victory over me, but she'll never get it.

I stand by my comments and views, and can explain why and how I made such comments, with ease.

She ( and Kwickie ) want to take my comments out of context, and try to contrast my answers in one thread to a totally different one.... by all means, it's the best they have. I've noticed that both Nikie and Kwickie have little or no ability to continue w/ a specific topic with out interjecting character assassination as their primary argument for pretty much anything I've said.

It comes down to just this.... I don't subscribe to their Left wing world view, and dare to hold true to the facts and am unafraid to state what I believe.

That bothers them, and because of it, you see threads like this and signatures like Kwickies and others.


Quote:

I wasted a bit of time going back in time to check some stuff out.



Yes, dear. You sure have.

Still livin' rent free in their minds.....






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Monday, July 5, 2010 9:45 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Mal4, not looking for a winner and quite happy to let this go down into oblivion. I made my point. I got curious because he said several times that he criticized Dumbya when he was in office, too...it just didn't seem possible, from what I've read. So I went back to find out, and got caught up by what I read, so saved some and posted it.

I am long past trying to get through on any level, believe me. I guess like Mike has explained, I even bother to respond to his stuff more to talk to others here than to reply to him. What I found so intrigued me that I shared it. Not very buddhist of me, certainly, but believe me, I'm not in contest with him or PN! To even be compared isn't something I seek.

The comparison to what I previously experienced isn't even close...you have no idea. I've done nothing but quote, not make things up or call anyone vicious names. I've been called on my signature, too, which I only use occasionally, but which Mike has also quoted, in red, and Anthony used as his signature for a while, too, yet neither of them was chastized for it.

If anything, I feel like I get compared to people here who are consistently ugly, when I try not to be and rarely call anyone the kind of obscenities I see hurled about and have had hurled at me. Sometimes I want to make a stand, illogical as that may be. It's almost as if my efforts to communicate civilly make the times I drop to their level worse than their doing it regularly to others.

I gave in to snarkiness in posting what I did about PN, as well. I let some comments about my posting "too much" about the Gulf get to me. Not much does, but that came as close to actually riling me up as anything here has in ages, and I took it personally.

I feel pretty strongly about the Gulf, as you know, and feel that shouldn't be forgotten as time moves on, because it's still happening. To be chastized for my posts--by DT, actually, as I ignore Whatsit--when PN, well, you know...

Two examples of my wanting to say something personally, as perspective for what is said to and about me pretty consistently.

Thank you for your civility; I appreciate it. I know in PN's case part of it is that I've given in to defensivenss somewhat, which I usually don't. I'll try not to give in to the impulse further and let them both slide on down, as they deserve to.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off


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Monday, July 5, 2010 9:51 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Niki might be looking for some sort of declaration of victory over me, but she'll never get it.

Thing is, "Victory!" is not necessary. Anyone who follows these threads can plainly see who's living in denial of facts.

Niki and Mike - I just wish you'd continue to engage Rappy elsewhere, on topic. The bizarre way he responds to factual challenges says everything you could wish about him. Threads like this only make statements about you.

Or ignore him. That seems the most effective. But don't ignore him because if you do it long enough you'll be declared the winner. Guess what - won't ever happen.


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Monday, July 5, 2010 10:42 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by mal4prez:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Niki might be looking for some sort of declaration of victory over me, but she'll never get it.

Thing is, "Victory!" is not necessary. Anyone who follows these threads can plainly see who's living in denial of facts.



Then pick a topic,any one, and have at it. Please.




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