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Williams steps aside as chairman of Tea Party Express
Friday, July 16, 2010 10:56 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Conservative radio talk show host and prominent Tea Party activist Mark Williams is giving up his role as the chairman of the Tea Party Express, Williams told CNN Saturday. Williams said his decision stemmed from his involvement in two other major projects. One is opposing the construction of a mosque near the site of Ground Zero in New York, where the twin towers of the World Trade Center were destroyed by Islamist hijackers on September 11, 2001. The other is leading a recall effort against some members of the Sacramento City Council and running for a spot on the local body himself after the council voted to boycott Arizona over its new immigration law. "What I'm doing is thinking globally and acting locally," Williams said of his bi-coastal commitments. Williams said he will continue to be involved with the Tea Party Express as a spokesman, a featured speaker at the group's events, in television and print media and generally as a public face of the organization. But Williams will be taking a back seat when it comes to the Tea Party Express' day-to-day managerial responsibilities. "I'll still be shooting my mouth off and appearing on TV," said Williams. "I just won't be as critical in strategy which is fine by me."
Friday, July 16, 2010 11:27 AM
WHOZIT
Friday, July 16, 2010 11:35 AM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Friday, July 16, 2010 1:17 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: I love it when people start to wake up, and call bullshit where they see it. Thanks Whozit, you just made my day.
Friday, July 16, 2010 1:19 PM
Friday, July 16, 2010 1:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: I love it when people start to wake up, and call bullshit where they see it. Thanks Whozit, you just made my day. Funny, because I don't remember either of you speaking out against Mark Williams, either! It IS awesome when people wake up and call bullshit. Hopefully someday you'll wake up. Glad to see you've finally figured out it's the "NEW" Black Panther Party, though. And they're idiots. How many members do they have? Three, maybe? Their dipshits and racists, pure and simple. And I'm sure I'm at least as concerned about them as President Bush's DOJ was; I've already condemned them far more than his administration ever did!
Friday, July 16, 2010 1:46 PM
Friday, July 16, 2010 1:50 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: I don't remember you having much to say about the "New Black Panther Party" there NIKI?
Friday, July 16, 2010 1:55 PM
Friday, July 16, 2010 2:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: Kwick.. you really dont get it do you? The Tea Party isnt racist.. but the NAACP and their supporters would like you to believe it. What better way to cut the legs out of a movement than to call them racist? Well, I guess you could call them anti-semetic... waiting for the moles to start showing up with signs like "Israel is the terrorist!" Or did that already happen? Its hard to keep track of all the morons, posing as members, trying to get themselves on the internet with a picture to undermine the movement.
Friday, July 16, 2010 2:35 PM
HKCAVALIER
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: What better way to cut the legs out of a movement than to call them racist?
Friday, July 16, 2010 3:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2:Good riddance to bad racist rubbish...if only he were actually "going"! Can't help wondering if the cries of "racism" might have something to do with this...
Friday, July 16, 2010 5:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Evidence of ANY racism, Niki? Seriously..... put up or shut up.
Friday, July 16, 2010 11:55 PM
Saturday, July 17, 2010 1:34 AM
QUESTIONABLEQUESTIONALITY
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: In-artful, perhaps, but not racist. Comes no where near the level of vitriol and mean spirited nonsense for which the tea party is being attacked. The 'racism' cry is nothing but an attempt to marginalize the Tea Party, and keep the Left from having to discuss the issues. Because that's where they'd lose. Instead, the race mongers at the naaLcp ( national association for the advancement of LEFTIST colored people ) don't want serious debate, all they want to do is sloganeer and divide.
Saturday, July 17, 2010 1:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by QuestionableQuestionality: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: In-artful, perhaps, but not racist. Comes no where near the level of vitriol and mean spirited nonsense for which the tea party is being attacked. The 'racism' cry is nothing but an attempt to marginalize the Tea Party, and keep the Left from having to discuss the issues. Because that's where they'd lose. Instead, the race mongers at the naaLcp ( national association for the advancement of LEFTIST colored people ) don't want serious debate, all they want to do is sloganeer and divide. I'm tellin ya.. them niggers be something else
Saturday, July 17, 2010 6:54 AM
Quote:Here’s what Thernstrom, “a scholar whom President George W. Bush appointed as vice chairwoman of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights” who “has a reputation as a tough conservative critic of affirmative action and politically correct positions on race” told Ben Smith at Politico: Quote:“This doesn’t have to do with the Black Panthers; this has to do with their fantasies about how they could use this issue to topple the [Obama] administration,” said Thernstrom, who said members of the commission voiced their political aims “in the initial discussions” of the Panther case last year. “My fellow conservatives on the commission had this wild notion they could bring Eric Holder down and really damage the president”. Oof. And this from Linda Chavez, president of the Center for Equal Opportunity and a Fox News contributor. “Because it’s 24-hour news and cable news and Fox News — this is the kind of story, like the ACORN story, that’s got pictures that you can run over and over again.”
Quote:“This doesn’t have to do with the Black Panthers; this has to do with their fantasies about how they could use this issue to topple the [Obama] administration,” said Thernstrom, who said members of the commission voiced their political aims “in the initial discussions” of the Panther case last year. “My fellow conservatives on the commission had this wild notion they could bring Eric Holder down and really damage the president”.
Quote:You want some proof of racism in the Tea Party, Crappy? I'll give you just a taste. We’ve all seen the poster now of Obama as a witch doctor. Dr. David McKalip forwarded it to fellow members of a Google listserv affiliated with the Tea Party movement. The guy holding this sign? He’s the Texas tea party leader Dale Robertson Carl Paladino, the Tea Party favorite for New York governor sent e-mails to friends, including: - A video entitled "Obama Inauguration Rehearsal." The video shows an African tribesman dancing, and is apparently popular among white supremacists. - An email with the subject line "Proof the Irish discovered Africa" containing a video of monkeys that appear to be doing a Riverdance-style jig - A “motivational poster”: - A photo of Barack and Michelle depicted as a pimp and a ho: Then there’s this, from Tea Party protests: And posted on the Twitter page of the Springboro Tea Party by Sonny Thomas, the group’s founder: “Illegals everywhere today! So many spics makes me feel like a speck. Grrr. Wheres my gun!?” That’s a sampling, enough for anyone to state “There is a racist aspect to the Tea Party movement”. One blogger said it perfectly:Quote:Regardless of all the well-informed, thoughtful members of the Tea Party movement, the racist Americans out there are migrating towards the movement. Since the leadership of the movement will not create a specific and clear statement declaring its complete and udder contempt for racism in any form, it by default embraces it. I do feel sorry for the "good" conservatives out there. It must be difficult to make your voice heard among such rabble.Although there is lots and lots more, I rest my case..If they'd call them out, it would go a long way. They won't, they'd rather bitch about being called racist. Personally, I never thought the entire Tea Party was racist, or even the majority of them, and I don't think many people do believe that. Those who ARE racist within their ranks get attention because they are overt, dramatic, and carry ugly signs. If the Tea Party didn't want to be called racist, they should make some effort to negate that appearance...certainly those people have the same right to show up and be heard, but if they'd been called out, or if anyone in the Tea Party had EVER said in any speech that racism was bad and they didn't condone it within their ranks, this wouldn't be an issue...the focus would have been on those who were overtly racist and it wouldn't have spread to the whole Party being called that. However, when you have a convention and, in an auditorium full of Tea Partiers, the speaker says we should go back to the Jim Crow laws, the literacy test before you can vote, says people are allowed to vote who can’t even spell “vote”, and the crowd whistles, cheers and applauds him, the appearance becomes obvious. Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani, signing off
Quote:Regardless of all the well-informed, thoughtful members of the Tea Party movement, the racist Americans out there are migrating towards the movement. Since the leadership of the movement will not create a specific and clear statement declaring its complete and udder contempt for racism in any form, it by default embraces it. I do feel sorry for the "good" conservatives out there. It must be difficult to make your voice heard among such rabble.
Saturday, July 17, 2010 7:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Sigh...I didn't reply because I got caught up in other things and didn't follow this thread. Shees. To begin with, of COURSE I hate this New Black Panther thing, but mostly I think the fuss about the supposed "voter intimidation" thing is absurd: The BUSH District Attorney's office stated that they had not been contacted by any voters with complaints of intimidation. The New Black Panther with the nightstick was escorted away by the police. It took place at an almost entirely African-American polling place. There were 1,435 registered voters; only 84 of them were Republicans. In 2008, exactly EIGHT VOTES went for Bush; 382 for Gore. In 2004, 501 for Kerry, 24 for Bush. That polling place had historically gone VASTLY democratic in enormous numbers, so if they did intimidate anyone, why did nobody complain? BUSH Administration Thomas Perez testified: "After reviewing the matter, the Civil Rights Division determined the facts did not constitute a prosecutable violation of the criminal statute." On January 7, 2009, the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) filed a civil suit instead. BEFORE Obama came into office. Between June 30 and July 14 of 2010, Fox News covered the story 95 times, including 45 segments on America Live with Megyn Kelly. The whole thing is absurd; a couple of guys with overblown egos wanting attention, and it's been blown out of proportion to make some kind of weird point...the fact that it was so long ago shows just how desperate the effort is. In addition, even people in the Republican side are decrying it:Quote:Here’s what Thernstrom, “a scholar whom President George W. Bush appointed as vice chairwoman of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights” who “has a reputation as a tough conservative critic of affirmative action and politically correct positions on race” told Ben Smith at Politico: Quote:“This doesn’t have to do with the Black Panthers; this has to do with their fantasies about how they could use this issue to topple the [Obama] administration,” said Thernstrom, who said members of the commission voiced their political aims “in the initial discussions” of the Panther case last year. “My fellow conservatives on the commission had this wild notion they could bring Eric Holder down and really damage the president”. Oof. And this from Linda Chavez, president of the Center for Equal Opportunity and a Fox News contributor. “Because it’s 24-hour news and cable news and Fox News — this is the kind of story, like the ACORN story, that’s got pictures that you can run over and over again.” As to racism within the Tea Party, I already posted this. It's quite enough evidence to show without a doubt that there are racist elements within them, and DEFINITELY within their leaders: Quote:You want some proof of racism in the Tea Party, Crappy? I'll give you just a taste. We’ve all seen the poster now of Obama as a witch doctor. Dr. David McKalip forwarded it to fellow members of a Google listserv affiliated with the Tea Party movement. The guy holding this sign? He’s the Texas tea party leader Dale Robertson Carl Paladino, the Tea Party favorite for New York governor sent e-mails to friends, including: - A video entitled "Obama Inauguration Rehearsal." The video shows an African tribesman dancing, and is apparently popular among white supremacists. - An email with the subject line "Proof the Irish discovered Africa" containing a video of monkeys that appear to be doing a Riverdance-style jig - A “motivational poster”: - A photo of Barack and Michelle depicted as a pimp and a ho: Then there’s this, from Tea Party protests: And posted on the Twitter page of the Springboro Tea Party by Sonny Thomas, the group’s founder: “Illegals everywhere today! So many spics makes me feel like a speck. Grrr. Wheres my gun!?” That’s a sampling, enough for anyone to state “There is a racist aspect to the Tea Party movement”. One blogger said it perfectly:Quote:Regardless of all the well-informed, thoughtful members of the Tea Party movement, the racist Americans out there are migrating towards the movement. Since the leadership of the movement will not create a specific and clear statement declaring its complete and udder contempt for racism in any form, it by default embraces it. I do feel sorry for the "good" conservatives out there. It must be difficult to make your voice heard among such rabble.Although there is lots and lots more, I rest my case..If they'd call them out, it would go a long way. They won't, they'd rather bitch about being called racist. Personally, I never thought the entire Tea Party was racist, or even the majority of them, and I don't think many people do believe that. Those who ARE racist within their ranks get attention because they are overt, dramatic, and carry ugly signs. If the Tea Party didn't want to be called racist, they should make some effort to negate that appearance...certainly those people have the same right to show up and be heard, but if they'd been called out, or if anyone in the Tea Party had EVER said in any speech that racism was bad and they didn't condone it within their ranks, this wouldn't be an issue...the focus would have been on those who were overtly racist and it wouldn't have spread to the whole Party being called that. However, when you have a convention and, in an auditorium full of Tea Partiers, the speaker says we should go back to the Jim Crow laws, the literacy test before you can vote, says people are allowed to vote who can’t even spell “vote”, and the crowd whistles, cheers and applauds him, the appearance becomes obvious. Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani, signing off
Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:13 AM
DREAMTROVE
Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:20 AM
Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:34 AM
Saturday, July 17, 2010 3:47 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: 2. Everytime you say RWA, you lose me 100%. It's not even worth arguing. It's like if I stopped calling democrats "democrats" and instead called them the "demoklan."
Saturday, July 17, 2010 4:37 PM
Quote:1. Tea Party is 15 million people. Tea Party Express is three people. I don't think what you say of one automatically reflects on the other
Saturday, July 17, 2010 7:36 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:54 AM
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