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Bitchy Moms, Slutty Daughters

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:05 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




Why are Feminists Surprised Their Daughters are Sluts?
http://www.henrymakow.com/why_are_feminists_surprised_da.html



"You can't put a price on good pussy."
-Pam, Archer, The Rock

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Friday, August 13, 2010 1:38 AM

PENGUIN


Apparently right wing ex semi govenors of large states have sluts for daughters too!





King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Friday, August 13, 2010 2:01 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


I get a chuckle at how the old guard feminists are all fussy over how 'liberated' their modern day counter parts have become. The " do - me " feminists is what they call them, I believe.

Rush Limbaugh had it right, when he said that feminism was started to give ugly chicks a chance.

But when the girls are hot, and they want to do as they please ? That's not what the N.O.W. gals had in mind.




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Friday, August 13, 2010 2:32 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


I haven't heard the N.O.W. complaining about what hot women are doing NEARLY as much as I hear the right whinging about what women are doing.

Just this week, meatpuppet Bill O'Reilly went on a rant about Jennifer Aniston sending a "terrible message" because she said it's not the worst thing in the world to be a single mother without a man in the picture.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Friday, August 13, 2010 3:07 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
I haven't heard the N.O.W. complaining about what hot women are doing NEARLY as much as I hear the right whinging about what women are doing.

Just this week, meatpuppet Bill O'Reilly went on a rant about Jennifer Aniston sending a "terrible message" because she said it's not the worst thing in the world to be a single mother without a man in the picture.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


Ole' Jen should thank O'Reilly for the free publicity, that flick looks bland and needs all the help it can get.

Those arn't boobs, they're lies! - Stewie Griffin

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Friday, August 13, 2010 3:13 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Penguin:
Apparently right wing ex semi govenors of large states have sluts for daughters too!


I'm not sure who you are talking about. A lot of politicians have daughters, I'm fairly certain that at some point those daughters have sex.

I don't think the mere act of having sex or getting a disease or getting pregnant makes you a slut. I think whether or not a person, male or female, is a slut is a reflection of the behavior and their character.

So if you have an accusation to make against someone in particular, an accusation based on a pattern of behavior or an obvious failing of their character...make it.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I find those statements amazing. I said I found your remarks 'amazing'" Niki2, 2010.

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Friday, August 13, 2010 4:20 AM

BYTEMITE


See that magazine in the hands of the girl on the right?

That's the biggest reason why. That, and television following a trend. Now that it's acceptable, hot young things in skimpy outfits attract the young male demographic and serve as role models for young girls more than their parents ever could.

I don't particularly care. It's their business. I just wish the girls with big cleavage would cover up more, very distracting.

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Friday, August 13, 2010 4:21 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Goodness! Feminism is a failure???!!!! Say it aint so!!!!

Why, trying to destroy a cornerstone of society produces terrible results?!! Who knew!!???

Btw, to Raps point.... heheheheh (ahem) hah ahahahahhaahah.... (exscuse me) No. I have never met a pretty feminist either. Ever.

Never seen one on tv, in the movies, on the news....


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Friday, August 13, 2010 4:26 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg



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Friday, August 13, 2010 4:29 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg



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Friday, August 13, 2010 4:53 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Or slutty lesbians.

Quote:

She has been publicly out as a lesbian since 1993 (though it was only alluded to on Married...With Children in an episode where Marcy's cousin, Mandy [played by Bearse in a dual role], comes to visit and reveals to Al Bundy that she's a lesbian -- Lez Be Friends).
http://smotri.com/video/view/?id=v1461181d902
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Bearse




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Friday, August 13, 2010 11:30 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
I haven't heard the N.O.W. complaining about what hot women are doing NEARLY as much as I hear the right whinging about what women are doing.

Just this week, meatpuppet Bill O'Reilly went on a rant about Jennifer Aniston sending a "terrible message" because she said it's not the worst thing in the world to be a single mother without a man in the picture.












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Friday, August 13, 2010 12:37 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Penguin:
Apparently right wing ex semi govenors of large states have sluts for daughters too!




And she's any less slutty than Barry Hussein's momma.....how ?

Both knocked up at about the same age, and had their man leave them....

By the Left's play book, this has all the makings of another Messiah.






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Friday, August 13, 2010 1:24 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Oh yes, I long for the good old days pre feminism, when you had no choice but to stay at home, have babies and put up with whatever shit your husband threw at you. Oh and less pay for the same work, that was great too. Oh yes, and having to quit work because you were married, that was great as well. Not being able to complain or prosecute when you were beaten by your husband, they weres the good times. And not voting, not having a political voice that was fab. Not being able to own or inherit property, lets bring that great law back. Not having access to contraception until you were married - that was fun as well. What great ol days THEY were. yep, it was really fair that women were precluded from being treated as human - because, you know, having breasts and vagina really means that you aren't.

Yeah, DAMN those hairy armpitted feminists for not living up the the beauty ideals of the wondrous men that are (if they are men) Wulf and PN and their ilk

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Friday, August 13, 2010 2:36 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!



Slut and future slut (or fag, tranny, transexual from Transylvania)

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Friday, August 13, 2010 3:11 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yay Magons! I always considered myself SO lucky to be born when I was! I was born in 1948, so wasn't a teenager until the '60s. But I saw my mom--who worked, but at that time it wasn't very common. Mom didn't do the dressed-to-the-nines-for-when-hubby-gets-home bit, but by the time I was old enough, I knew what I was seeing.

Mom was ahead of her time. She'd worked all her life, even through two marriages, had to have an abortion when younger, was divorced, and didn't fit the mold of the '50's woman at all.

But I had a poodle skirt, we had a "too-short" and skirt dress code in school for the girls, if you had sex before marriage you were in danger of being called a slut, no-fault divorce didn't exist yet, women made FAR less than men and were limited in what jobs they could take, it was damned hard to prosecute a husband for "rape", there weren't many shelters (if any) for battered women, and most people went to church and/or were involved in church activities (despite getting drunk and/or beating their wives the rest of the week).

You've never seen a hot feminist?? I seem to recall one or two of you guys saying you thought I was "hot" at 26. There's your example. I could post pix of some of my friends in the '60s who were just as hot if not moreso who were feminists, too.

ETA: Is that pic "Murphy Brown"? She and the baby are both actors, you know, if it is!


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off




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Friday, August 13, 2010 4:24 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


And who the $%^&*&## cares whether the unreconstructed neandertals like most of the posters in this thread find you hot or not. Pity the women who have the misfortune to cross paths with them in RL.

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Friday, August 13, 2010 5:16 PM

BYTEMITE




^Me.

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Friday, August 13, 2010 7:44 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
And who the $%^&*&## cares whether the unreconstructed neandertals like most of the posters in this thread find you hot or not. Pity the women who have the misfortune to cross paths with them in RL.



Really ? Neanderthals ? For not fully buying into the furry legged, bra burning feminazi view point ?

My, that is rich.




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Friday, August 13, 2010 8:13 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Furry legs ? Don't forget arms, armpits, head, and nethers. Yep, women are biological beings with human genetics that cause them to be that way. And not only do women have hair, they eat, fart, pee, poop, sweat, cry, sniffle, spit, and occasionally menstruate, give birth and suckle their young.

So what exactly are you complaining about Rap ? That women are real ? That they are biological creatures ? What, exactly offends you about actual humans ?

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Friday, August 13, 2010 8:40 PM

HKCAVALIER


Have you gentlemen nothing better to do than to shit on feminists? Have feminists really, really hurt you so badly? Oh, if only y'all could live in a world where you could demean women free of guilt or censure! What is wrong with you louts that you feel so put upon by women just trying to get some respect?

It's inhumane, disgusting, and shows an utter ignorance of historical reality. Like gloating over segregation and making fun of Fredrick Douglas. And all this puerile rot about all feminists being ugly--if that isn't neanderthal, I'd like to know what you think qualifies?

(Now I'll wait for one of you to call me a fag.)

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Friday, August 13, 2010 10:44 PM

AGENTROUKA


I would love to see the men who complain about female body hair try and remove all of theirs on a regular basis, do it so neatly it seems natural and constantly worry about stubble, from their earliest teens on for the rest of their lives at the threat of being shamed as disgusting otherwise.

Never mind the razor cuts, the pain of ripping hair out, the burns from improperly handled hot wax, the mess of ingrown hairs or itching from it growing back, or the masses of money spent on having it all done professionally...

I think some men have no idea how unnatural and extreme a cultural force this actually is.


As for blaming feminism for.. everything? Convenient, coming either from the gender who never had to endure the life of a woman pre-feminism if the men in her life weren't inclined to be kind to her - or from women enjoying the fruits of feminist labor today by exercising the CHOICE to lead a certain lifestyle rather than being forced into it for lack of options. Heaven beware other women making other CHOICES. Must put an end to that. They really don't know what's good for them, so why give them the freedom to decide?

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Saturday, August 14, 2010 1:41 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Furry legs ? Don't forget arms, armpits, head, and nethers. Yep, women are biological beings with human genetics that cause them to be that way. And not only do women have hair, they eat, fart, pee, poop, sweat, cry, sniffle, spit, and occasionally menstruate, give birth and suckle their young.

So what exactly are you complaining about Rap ? That women are real ? That they are biological creatures ? What, exactly offends you about actual humans ?



Everyone knows women don't 'fart'. Sheesh.

The 'furry legged' remark is a knock at women who don't shave their legs.

Lighten up.




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Saturday, August 14, 2010 3:04 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Penguin:
Apparently right wing ex semi govenors of large states have sluts for daughters too!




And she's any less slutty than Barry Hussein's momma.....how ?

Both knocked up at about the same age, and had their man leave them....

By the Left's play book, this has all the makings of another Messiah.









Fucking hilarious.....man, that is a classic.

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Saturday, August 14, 2010 3:41 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Lighten up.. good grief.

1. "Oh yes, I long for the good old days pre feminism, when you had no choice but to stay at home, have babies and put up with whatever shit your husband threw at you."

Yeah, because having children, taking care of them, providing a nice safe, comfortable home for your family is SOOOOOO awful.

2. "Oh and less pay for the same work, that was great too."

What work? You just said every woman was at home. But I agree that taking care of a family is a hard job. Stay at home moms can never get enough credit in my book.

AND, I don't think there were a lot of male secretaries back in the day, so how can you be sure you were doing the same work for less pay?

3."Oh yes, and having to quit work because you were married, that was great as well."

I think that was more of an inter-familial decision.

4. "Not being able to complain or prosecute when you were beaten by your husband, they weres the good times."

You could complain, but most people didn't want to get involved in domestic disputes. But this I agree with. A woman has the right to seek police and lawful help. Provided that the woman truly IS being abused.

5. "And not voting, not having a political voice that was fab. Not being able to own or inherit property, lets bring that great law back. Not having access to contraception until you were married - that was fun as well."

Well... ok.

As you are so passionate about these things... I think N.O.W. and all the rest of the feminist organizations should go to places like Africa, and the Middle East.

There, women really ARE property.

Let me know how that turns out.

MmmmKay?

Now go make me a sammich.

lol

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Saturday, August 14, 2010 5:06 AM

AGENTROUKA


How is it that whenever women point out the how rubbish the demonization of feminism is they always get told to "lighten up"?

Silly, uptight women defending the movement that gave them equal rights and fair treatment and choices. Just laugh it off when someone tries to denigrate those accomplishments! Why DO you take that stuff so seriously, anyway? And you really have no right to complain, after all, you could be someplace where it's much worse, so you should really be thankful for not being property anymore and just shuttup when someone else blames feminism for the world's ills.


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Saturday, August 14, 2010 5:48 AM

BYTEMITE


It's not demonization. It's backlash from whenever people DO take it too seriously, and start calling everyone who disagrees with them a neanderthal.

I agree with you on all points, but the neanderthal thing is just ad hominem attacks, and does nothing to further justify or validate your position. It just pisses people off, and comes off as belligerent, and dare I say, militant, which is why you were then attacked with accusations of not shaving and other now-symbolic representations of militant feminism.

I credit feminism with allowing me to be like one of the boys, instead of forcing me to go along with all sorts of double standards bullshit, but people need to knock off the disdain towards acting and being like one of the boys. It's a personal attack on me and MY lifestyle.

EDIT: What most of the guys here hate is man-hating. They don't give a good damn either way really if you or any other woman works or votes or owns property, fact is you can and do, and they've moved past it. But you girls haven't, and you don't show them respect, so why should they show you respect? You accuse them of some evil straw man wife beating, and they just grin and play it up back to you because it winds you up.

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Saturday, August 14, 2010 6:42 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Now go make me a sammich.



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Saturday, August 14, 2010 6:44 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
It's not demonization. It's backlash from whenever people DO take it too seriously, and start calling everyone who disagrees with them a neanderthal.

I agree with you on all points, but the neanderthal thing is just ad hominem attacks, and does nothing to further justify or validate your position. It just pisses people off, and comes off as belligerent, and dare I say, militant, which is why you were then attacked with accusations of not shaving and other now-symbolic representations of militant feminism.

Might want to consider that, I suspect what most of the guys here hate is man-hating.

I credit feminism with allowing me to be like one of the boys, instead of forcing me to go along with all sorts of double standards bullshit, but people need to knock off the disdain towards acting and being like one of the boys. It's a personal attack on me and MY lifestyle.


Some days ya just wanna take a flamethower to both sides of a ludicrous argument, yes ?

Believe me, I feel ya, the whole bloody topic is fucking idiotic in the first place - people are, who they are, and not respecting that is just plain dickheaded, always has been.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Saturday, August 14, 2010 6:50 AM

BYTEMITE


Frem: Yeah, exactly. And that works both ways, men and women. Continuing all this battle of the sexes stuff is unnecessary.

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Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:08 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

Have feminists really, really hurt you so badly?
No, you don’t get it. We threaten them. We threaten the “good old boy” power structure, so they hate us and we’re an easy target.
Quote:

I would love to see the men who complain about female body hair try and remove all of theirs on a regular basis
Oh, gawd, me too!!
Quote:

having children, taking care of them, providing a nice safe, comfortable home for your family is SOOOOOO awful.
If it’s so great, why didn’t men do it too? They do NOW, but obviously you don’t condone that.

As to equal pay, that’s been documented out the ying-yang, so why go there? Having to quite work to raise a family was almost all the time not a “inter-family decision”. It’s was a societal imperative.
Quote:

think N.O.W. and all the rest of the feminist organizations should go to places like Africa, and the Middle East.
So women have no right to try and make their lives and the lives of other women better in their own country, obviously. Many, many organizations of women DO work toward equality in other countries, but according to you they should go there and stop bothering America about equal rights, yes?

Byte, some historical perspective. Society, and especially as represented by TV, for most of history cast the woman almost exclusively the dumb homemaker, victim, etc. which stands helpless and lets a man protect her. That has reversed in recent years, with now the male often being portrayed as the dumb, ineffective, powerless husband and women more and more as strong, self-confident protagonists not needing the protection of a man. Neither one is totally accurate; neither one is fair; but the pendulum swings and, while I wish it weren’t so and think it’s about time to stop, I think the female sex has had the right to a different portrayal by society for a while.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off




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Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:40 AM

BYTEMITE


Have a right? To depict the other 50% of the population in an insulting and degrading manner? No, no more than you have a right to pick a fight and not expect someone to throw a fist back.

If you want the pendulum to stop swinging, then stop pushing it back in the other direction.

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Saturday, August 14, 2010 8:20 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

If it’s so great, why didn’t men do it too? They do NOW, but obviously you don’t condone that.


Niki, hate to break it to you, but men and women?

They're different.


It's true!




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Saturday, August 14, 2010 8:29 AM

BYTEMITE


Uh... How so? Even our genitalia is analogous, with the penis being converted from the clitoris, and the ovaries being analogous to the testes. The only difference really is size and location and where the tubes go. If you're meaning the pregnancy, there's been recent advancements in the field of male pregnancy that makes this no longer completely accurate that we're so very different, though a better option is of course artificial wombs being researched.

Now, you might be able to argue something about grey and white matter in the brains, or about muscle mass versus body fat, but there's arguments about whether that's genetic or developmental, and we don't have any idea what the grey-matter/white-matter thing functionally means.

Maybe a better argument would be on the genetic level, the X and Y chromosome have genes activated differently in men and women, so differences there are calculated at about 2%, more even than the difference between humans and chimpanzees, but those differences are still arguably less about functionality and more about things like chemical resistances and genetic disorders.

Measurably, when we're talking about things like job capability or domestic capability, these are trained skills, and less so much genetic, and there should be no differences beyond cultural influence.

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Saturday, August 14, 2010 9:32 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Men and women think differently. Time Magazine even said so, so it must be true.

And I'm sorry, but there's simply not a man that'll make me feel funny inside like women make me feel.









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Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:23 AM

WHOZIT


I've looked into my crystal ball! Barry & Mobama's kids end up doing porno....really sick stuff.

Those arn't boobs, they're lies! - Stewie Griffin

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Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:53 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I said I thought it was a shame the pendulum is still swinging in the direction it is, Byte. To me, it's also natural human behavior; TV and movies reflect what's happening in the world mostly.

Where do you get the idea I'm "pushing" the pendulum in any direction? I don't want it swinging EITHER way, I was merely pointing out historical facts. And I said, you'll note, that I thought females HAD a right to swing it in the other direction. That should have passed long ago, as far as I'm concerned. I don't like seeing either sex being degraded or portrayed as stupid.

Wulf, what in hell does men and women being different have to do with the fact that, if raising a family is such a wonderful thing, men should enjoy it too? Are you saying women are the only ones who can raise a family? That men "shouldn't" be doing so? Many are these days, if you hadn't noticed. Your statement that the sexes are different has nothing to do with the equation.

The differences between the sexes is something society created and enforced. It's not that way in other cultures. Your argument is fallible.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off




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Saturday, August 14, 2010 11:23 AM

MINCINGBEAST


A woman's body hair is no less pleasant than the rest of her--no need to distinguish between shades of pitch black. Plus, men are better at being hairy, any way.

And Nikki, you're rad, and I say this as a brutish knuckle dragger with a terminal case of testosterone, but society did not invent the differences between boys and girls. It may formalize and enforce them, but to argue that men and women are fundamentally identical is contrary to human experience.

My solution? Neuter everyone and reproduce through science.

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Saturday, August 14, 2010 12:09 PM

BYTEMITE


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Men and women think differently. Time Magazine even said so, so it must be true.



Media != valid scientific source.

Also, many of these psychological studies are flawed in that they use both a small sample size and a sample from only one culture to draw conclusions.

Thinking differently has a lot to do with societal influences, and less so much genetics. If you want to argue ACTUAL differences, we can do so, but the tangible measurable differences are along the lines I've already mentioned, and have nothing to do with domestic capability.

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Saturday, August 14, 2010 12:14 PM

BYTEMITE


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And Nikki, you're rad, and I say this as a brutish knuckle dragger with a terminal case of testosterone, but society did not invent the differences between boys and girls. It may formalize and enforce them, but to argue that men and women are fundamentally identical is contrary to human experience.



I probably shouldn't be one to talk about broad generalizations, but... There really isn't a common human experience we can define, any more than there is a common human nature.

If you have observations and impressions one way or another, you need to ask yourself if they are the product of the expectations and social biases of your culture. Because this aspect can vary across human populations, I'd argue that it IS mostly bias and expectation. If there were a distinct trend one way, you would see far less variation.

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Saturday, August 14, 2010 3:44 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Lighten up.. good grief.

1. Yeah, because having children, taking care of them, providing a nice safe, comfortable home for your family is SOOOOOO awful.


No, it's kind of nice. I've done it. But it was a CHOICE that I could make. just like the choice to have a career.

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2. What work? You just said every woman was at home. But I agree that taking care of a family is a hard job. Stay at home moms can never get enough credit in my book.

No, I said every MARRIED woman was at home. Women who worked at the same job as men were paid less, but I guess you don't know about that nice little part of history.

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AND, I don't think there were a lot of male secretaries back in the day, so how can you be sure you were doing the same work for less pay?

Because women also worked in as doctors, teachers, factories and other jobs along side men. Your knowledge of history, even recent history is pretty poor.

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3."Oh yes, and having to quit work because you were married, that was great as well."

I think that was more of an inter-familial decision.


No, that was pretty standard. Married women were expected to leave work and many companies would not continue to employ married women.The public sector here had a marriage bar. My Grandmother was a teacher, who did actually work after she was married, but she was never allowed to be employed permanently. She was always a 'temp' which meant her pay and conditions were always considerably lower than a man's. Oh and they only employed her because she worked in iscolated country schools. A bit like during and after WW2. when it was convenient for women to work, they were allowed, but after the war, it was back to the kitchen.

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4. "Not being able to complain or prosecute when you were beaten by your husband, they weres the good times."

You could complain, but most people didn't want to get involved in domestic disputes. But this I agree with. A woman has the right to seek police and lawful help. Provided that the woman truly IS being abused.


Actually, you were pretty much protected by law as the husband. It was a patriarchy, remember. Conjugal rights and so on. A lot of police would not attend to domestic 'disputes' and if they did, they responded in a patriarchial manner - 'quit your whinging love, and try not to antagonise him when his drunk.." Sheesh even I remember those times.

I'm glad you agree with me about the voting thing, but don't forget that the women who fought for the vote were villified, persecuted and mocked for their role in that. They were considered a threat to society, family values, the sanctity of the role of women in society.


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As you are so passionate about these things... I think N.O.W. and all the rest of the feminist organizations should go to places like Africa, and the Middle East.

There, women really ARE property.

Let me know how that turns out.


As it turns out there are plenty of organisations who support women's overseas.

I can feel passionately about what I want where I want and I don't have to answer to you, and one of the things that does bug me is mindless feminism bashing and all because they didn't shave their fucking legs. Geez. How shallow.

NB Calling you guys neanderthals is an insult to neanderthals.



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Saturday, August 14, 2010 3:55 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


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Originally posted by Bytemite:
It's not demonization. It's backlash from whenever people DO take it too seriously, and start calling everyone who disagrees with them a neanderthal.

I agree with you on all points, but the neanderthal thing is just ad hominem attacks, and does nothing to further justify or validate your position. It just pisses people off, and comes off as belligerent, and dare I say, militant, which is why you were then attacked with accusations of not shaving and other now-symbolic representations of militant feminism.

I credit feminism with allowing me to be like one of the boys, instead of forcing me to go along with all sorts of double standards bullshit, but people need to knock off the disdain towards acting and being like one of the boys. It's a personal attack on me and MY lifestyle.

EDIT: What most of the guys here hate is man-hating. They don't give a good damn either way really if you or any other woman works or votes or owns property, fact is you can and do, and they've moved past it. But you girls haven't, and you don't show them respect, so why should they show you respect? You accuse them of some evil straw man wife beating, and they just grin and play it up back to you because it winds you up.



Geez, Byte. You're the one who goes on about stuff that supports the status quo. Well how about this, without people being passionate and difficult and some pretty heavy handed attacks, then the status quo continues to exist. DO you think that women would have gained what they had gained without the full on radical, man hating, bra burning feminists? If you want to change stuff, really change it, you have to go in pretty hard, and keep at it hard.

I might not agree with a lot of that stuff that went on back then, but I see that it shook stuff up that needed to be shaken up. That's what all the most radical feminist stuff was about.

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Saturday, August 14, 2010 4:03 PM

DICKCHENEY


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Men and women think differently. Time Magazine even said so, so it must be true.

And I'm sorry, but there's simply not a man that'll make me feel funny inside like women make me feel.





Other then Rush Limbaugh and GlenBeck.



Go Fuck Yourself!

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Saturday, August 14, 2010 4:30 PM

BYTEMITE


Back then, they had plenty of justification. As I said, I'm grateful because the feminist movement allows me to be what I am (mostly. Rejecting male-female double standards when people have attempted to apply them to me has been a struggle on it's own, but a personal struggle).

Maybe some people still see justification now, or feel like if they let any tiny comment go now, there'll be a sudden slide back into the way things were.

I don't feel that way. Rather, I feel that modern feminism has been turned into yet another divisive wedge issue and doesn't have any real goal anymore.

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Saturday, August 14, 2010 4:41 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Wulfie wouldn't know a REAL woman if she kicked him in the balls. If he had any balls to kick.

He blames feminism for all the world's ills and all this country's woes, all while saying everybody should quit blaming their problems on others.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Saturday, August 14, 2010 4:47 PM

RIVERLOVE


Gloria Steinem started the so-called "feminist movement" after her "career" as a Playboy bunny. I wonder what turned her off men.


From this:
=


To this:



And somewhere along the way her grand vision was realized with this:

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Saturday, August 14, 2010 4:55 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


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Originally posted by Riverlove:

Gloria Steinem started the so-called "feminist movement" after her "career" as a Playboy bunny. I wonder what turned her off to men.



Jew Gloria Steinem's first career was a CIA agent. Everything else was just following orders from kosher Big Brother.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Gloria+Steinem+cia&aq=f&
aqi=g3&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai
=

Feminism was always a jewish scam to destroy families, brainwash kids in govt skools, and put women to work to double the income tax on families that's 100% paid to private central banks (all jewish).
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=nick+rothschild+aaron+ru
sso+feminism&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai
=

Dumb goy fell for it. Checkmate.

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Saturday, August 14, 2010 5:09 PM

RIVERLOVE


All obviously true, but her recipe for potato latkes is to die for.



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Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Rap ...

I hate to tell you this but ...



... this is a shaved, scrubbed, bleached, enhanced, made-up, primped, vanity-lighted, posed, airbrushed, digitally-modified, selected image that even the real version wouldn't stand up to in a face to face comparison, let alone day to day.

If you need this kind of never-to-be-attained fantasy to get it on - presumably with yourself - there's something wrong with you, boy.

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Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:48 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Wulf

"never seen a pretty feminist ... Never seen one on tv, in the movies, on the news...."


How about the one on the right ?


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