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Fascist Police State Trawls Phone Calls And E Mails For Signs Of “Resentment Toward Government”
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Friday, October 1, 2010 12:59 AM

PENGUIN


And for this you can thank Mr. Bush...





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Friday, October 1, 2010 2:40 AM

HERO


This is why I switched to a wireless phone.

H

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Friday, October 1, 2010 5:51 AM

BLUEHANDEDMENACE


Ummm, In hoping for a rational discussion based on fact here, I'll probably be disappointed, but oh well.

Did you actually read this link? or just the headline?

Copy Paste Rant Repeat, is that the process?

This was a symposium, an introduction to new tech ideas from the manufacturer...as in....this tech is NOT currently in use.

Now, I actually agree that this kind of thing is terrifying...the idea of this kind of privacy invasion is wrong and UnAmerican.

However, tying it to Obama is simply wrong and misleading. This tech is NOT in use, and will not be any time soon, even if the LOCAL police forces interested in it buy it today...it would still take significant time for something this all-encompasing to be implemented...WHICH IS NOT CURRENTLY HAPPENNING, at least, according to your link.

So is it just blind hatred of Obama that motivates these posts? I just strive to understand what makes thought and logic fly away from the tea baggers and righties when they start spouting on Obama.

I have a quick question for you....Which president had the highest tax rate during his tenure?....Reagan, Clinton, or Obama?

I am very curious what you guys answer to that one.

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Friday, October 1, 2010 6:53 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
This is why I switched to a wireless phone.



I use not just a wireless, but a non-contract disposable one.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, October 1, 2010 8:21 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

I have a quick question for you....Which president had the highest tax rate during his tenure?....Reagan, Clinton, or Obama?



Reagan.

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Friday, October 1, 2010 8:57 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace:
This tech is NOT in use, and will not be any time soon, even if the LOCAL police forces interested in it buy it today...it would still take significant time for something this all-encompasing to be implemented...WHICH IS NOT CURRENTLY HAPPENNING, at least, according to your link.


And you believe this ?

From the same people who denied Echelon existed while using it for corporate espionage to fatten their bank accounts ?

From the same people who said COINTELPRO was a myth, till some crook like me exposed it ?

From the same people who promised never to actually *build* Carnivore/Omnivore, and then went ahead and did it in defiance of THREE SEPERATE Congressional edicts forbidding them, an act ONLY make legal in a retroactive fashion by the Patriot Act ?

From the folks in the Church committee hearings who promised never, ever to do that kind of thing again, and then went and built Main Core - who we now find not only continued to do it, but increased their efforts ?

From the folks who utterly denied the Telecom spying right up until once again, they got retroactive immunity ?

You believe them.... WHY ?!

Not all that DARPA funding is flushed down a hole to disappear into the vast pockets of the punks running our alphabet agencies - a good chunk of it is used to develop tech like this and immediately put it in use and damn the legalities, cause it's not like they're answerable if no one is *allowed* to know what they're up to - how can our Reps forbid it, if they are unaware of it, ehe ?

While public sector technology *is* catching up, due to open source development and a certain lack of imagination and creativity amongst the government goons, only in the past five, six years has there been any parity between what is publicly available and what the black baggers have had mostly all along (main core was actually built in the early 80's, people).

And up till now, most "civilians" didn't understand enough about these techs to realize how compromised they are, and most companies played right along, hard coding backdoors into the hardware/software, a practice which has only just now run afoul of refusals to play ball any more, and now a legal fight because they want the damn things mandated...

And of course, when they get used (as they have been for years, another dirty little secret) by scammers and hackers, it'll be the customer taking the blame, and the DMCA outlaws fixing the built-in-exploits.

That's like mandating that one door of all cars cannot lock, in case police need to enter your car, welding it up so you can't install a lock, and making it illegal to do so if you do find a way.... and then blaming the owners when their cars get stolen!

And you wanna trust any bloody thing any of these people, who think this kinda bullshit is a good idea, exactly why ?

I mean, you're taking the word of the very scum of the earth here, proven liars with a sixty year history of it, who's job is pretty much telling lies.

Why is it that people are most willing to put their trust in the folk who least deserve it ?
Conditioning, straight from the cradle, set up over the past eighty years BY those very same people.

But believe what you wish, whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess - at least have the decency to ask yourself WHY you believe those things, and examine your answers oh so very carefully....

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Friday, October 1, 2010 9:50 AM

BLUEHANDEDMENACE


Honestly Frem, I dont believe about 98% of everything I read from everywhere. The vast majority of media sources (tv, internet, whatever) tend to prioiritize accuracy about 5th, or lower, in their goals.

My post's intent was more about refuting the absurd point that the link used to start this thread somehow proved Obama is spying on people, in some Orwellian fashion that is a new threat to everyone's liberty. Therefore i kept my arguments within the bounds of the source provided to start the discussion.

My point is mostly that it is naive to think he isn't spying, as he is the pres, and the pres is at the head of an apparatus which spies on its citizens as a matter of course, for decades.

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Friday, October 1, 2010 9:55 AM

BLUEHANDEDMENACE


Oh and congrats to Kwicko, for the correct answer. And it isnt really close either.

Another bonus question for the tea baggers out there...which pres raised taxes more? Reagan or Clinton?

(And again, its not even close)

Actually, to this point even Obama has raised taxes significantly less than good ole Ronny ever did, though economic realities likely will force more tax increases in the next few years.

I'll take a tax and spend liberal over a tax cut and spend, run two wars off the books neocon like we just got rid of after 8 horrific years.....

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Friday, October 1, 2010 10:01 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
And you believe this ?

From the same people who denied Echelon existed while using it for corporate espionage to fatten their bank accounts ?


Actually the information was provided in the link. No other evidence was offered.

By you standards not only could ANYTHING be true...its all true.

For example. Cars come with brakes, therefore the govt is secretly in control of your brakes.

Burger King now serves pancakes, therefore the govt is now using pancakes to spy on you.

You can buy a greeting card that plays Lady Ga Ga, therefor the govt is using greeting cards to spread hidden messages to the person who gets them even as the sender dies of cancer from licking the envelope.

You get the idea. You think everyone is out to get you. That said we know who you are...have you ever considered that you are a part of the coverup? How we laugh at the International Conspiracy meetings about you crazy-talkers always talkin crazy and ignoring the mountains to focus on your delusional mole hills. Your neighbor, the one you least expect...is in on it.

And every time you slow down all we have to do is fly a black helicopter over your house, or make a few harmless contrails, or give PN a speeding ticket...and (poof!) your brain fills up with so much crap you wouldn't know the truth if we held our next meeting in your living room with you as guest speaker while providing you with a step by step 'Here's How We Did It' 12 part documentary by Ken Burns complete with moving soundtrack.

You make it so easy...

H

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Friday, October 1, 2010 12:00 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Penguin:
And for this you can thank Mr. Bush...



Bush thought al Qaeda was the enemy.

Obama thinks YOU are the enemy.


Could both be right ?



"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Friday, October 1, 2010 12:07 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Penguin:
And for this you can thank Mr. Bush...





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Yes you can thank Bush BUT!! Wasn't Barry and the Dems going to get rid of the Patriot Act, and Gitmo, and Christmas? It's a good thing you libs have such short memories....and low standards.

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Friday, October 1, 2010 12:08 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


If Bush truly thought Al Qaeda was the enemy, he'd have put forth a bit more effort to bring Bin Laden to justice. Instead, he opted to let him go, and then shifted focus completely, opting to try to outdo his daddy in Iraq, and consigning a great many more Americans to a needless, useless death.

[Edited to fix.]

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Friday, October 1, 2010 12:53 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
If Bush truly thought Al Qaeda was the enemy, he'd have put forth a bit more effort to bring him to justice. Instead, he opted to let him go, and then shifted focus completely, opting to try to outdo his daddy in Iraq, and consigning a great many more Americans to a needless, useless death.

The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


It sounds like you have a tinfoil hat covering that big brain of your's, but I'm just a little brain who doesn't spell good. We all know Bush sent the troops to Iraq to rescue the alien space ship. When you get indoor plumbing and toilet paper please reply.



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Friday, October 1, 2010 1:30 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
If Bush truly thought Al Qaeda was the enemy, he'd have put forth a bit more effort to bring him to justice. Instead, he opted to let him go, and then shifted focus completely, opting to try to outdo his daddy in Iraq, and consigning a great many more Americans to a needless, useless death.




al Qaeda - Al-Qaeda (pronounced /ælˈkaɪdə/ al-KYE-də or /ælˈkeɪdə/ al-KAY-də; Arabic: القاعدة‎, al-qāʿidah, "the base"), alternatively spelled al-Qaida and sometimes al-Qa'ida, is a militant Islamist group founded sometime between August 1988 and late 1989. It operates as a network comprising both a multinational, stateless army and a radical Sunni Muslim movement calling for global Jihad. Most of the world considers it a terrorist organization. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda

Al Qaeda - some dude Kwickie thinks Bush let get away, and failed to bring to justice.


CAPTURED :







Which one's Al ? Oh, that's right. You said Al got away.....Maybe THIS is who needs to be at Gitmo, for crimes and lies against humanity



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Saturday, October 2, 2010 2:03 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


FAIL.

From your own cite:

Quote:

Command structure
When asked about the possibility of Al Qaeda's connection to the 7 July 2005 London bombings in 2005, Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair said: "Al Qaeda is not an organization. Al Qaeda is a way of working ... but this has the hallmark of that approach ... Al Qaeda clearly has the ability to provide training ... to provide expertise ... and I think that is what has occurred here."[24]



You were saying?

Your very own "source" has it listed as "al-Qaeda", al-qaeda", "Al-Qaeda", "Al Qaeda" and "el-Qaeda". Apparently THEY find all of them acceptable.

It's a bit ironic to be lectured on language and syntax by someone who can't even correctly pluralize the word "terrorist"? [Hint: just add an "s" to the end of the word; it's not that difficult, but you've never once gotten it right]

Rappy apparently really DOES think there's just one guy (maybe named Al Qaeda, but probably not - more likely he's just looking for anyone vaguely "Muslim-looking"; call him "Al Kinda"). Guess that's why he's been going on for years and years and years about how "we've got to stop these terrorist!"

So, Rappy, I ask again: Which one?




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Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Saturday, October 2, 2010 3:14 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Kwickie,

You've managed a special kind of fail. Congrats. Should we call it the 'double fail' ?

Not only did you ignore the fact that YOU refer to 'Al Qaeda ' as 'him', twice,

Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
If Bush truly thought Al Qaeda was the enemy, he'd have put forth a bit more effort to bring him to justice. Instead, he opted to let him go..



but you went on to toss in a red herring of alternate spellings with your argument, so as to distract from the real issue. What a maroon.

Those photos I posted ? Those are members of al Qaeda, the Islamic extremist group that is responsible for explosions and murders around the world, and the group responsible for 9/11. Many members of this group have been killed or captured.

Who is the 'him' to which you refer ? Is it Al ? It wasn't a typo, as you referenced 'him' twice, and the only other proper noun in the sentence was Al Qaeda.


" al Qaeda is not an organization.

Umm....o.k. What ever.

If you have an issue w/ Wikipedia, talk to them. All I did was show you to be a complete idiot in thinking Al Qaeda was a " him. "

" Al Qaeda clearly has the ability to provide training ... to provide expertise ... and I think that is what has occurred here."

So.... al Qaeda is a terrorist help center ? Kinda like Home Depot ?

It's absolutely an organization, so I don't know what the London Commish was talking about. It may not be tightly structured and formally organized in the proper sense, but there undeniable division of power and responsibility with their network.

But one thing's for certain, al Qaeda isn't simply 1 guy, as Kwickie twice referenced.

Thus - FAIL


I suppose you think Pink Floyd is a pretty cool rocker too, huh?




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Saturday, October 2, 2010 5:57 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Prove it. ;)

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Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Monday, October 4, 2010 2:49 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
So.... al Qaeda is a terrorist help center ? Kinda like Home Depot ?


Hmmm...I wonder if we can call in a drone strike on the local Home Depot...probably would not do any good since there's a Lowe's across town.

But lets consider...the Home Depot is located next to the Petsmart which is located next to Big Lots, which is next to the Best Buy which is located next to the Target.

That means potential terrorists have access to building supplies, consumer electronics, brand name toys, furniture, mattresses, watches, and more, all at low closeout prices, and kitty litter. And we thought 9/11 was bad.

H

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Monday, October 4, 2010 2:16 PM

DREAMTROVE


This policy became policy under Clinton after he got caught, but that just proves Clinton is a careless douche. Jimmy Carter made it official, but of course, Nixon was doing it, it's been policy for a long time.

Face it, anything that's to their advantage in any conceivable way if you take it to the extreme end of ambition and paranoia, they'll do it.

If you let them.

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