NUCKING FUTZ ! by OUT2THEBLACK

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NUCKING FUTZ !

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UPDATED: Tuesday, November 2, 2010 04:21
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Saturday, October 30, 2010 8:12 PM

Flying like the Nuttiest of Squirrels...Yes , it's beautiful , but I've got a notion that even a 'close scrape' would not be pretty...

Especially enjoyed the sequences where flydude buzzes the hairpin turn...Unbelievable !

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Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:13 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

I wanna !

I wonder if there's a large body of water, like a lake or ocean, which they could fly across, put on the 'air brakes' and simply drop into the drink.

THAT would be a blast.

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."

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Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:02 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

This is from the TV show Focused on HD Theater channel on Direct TV satellite.

The show is mainly about the photographers of extreme sports, how they photogs are often the extreme athletes themselves.

The got some Emmy nominations, dont know if they ever won.

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Monday, November 1, 2010 7:00 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

That is tricky , too.

They deploy the parachute from the little pack on their backs.

You can see a red chute bloom from one of the packs if you watch again.

The risks are still quite extreme. There is no reserve chute , the deployments are at low altitudes , and then there's the matter of exactly where to set down , in terrain that is often quite rough.

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Monday, November 1, 2010 7:15 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Yeah, all while the video was playing, I kept wondering....

" ...but how do they land ? "

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."

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Monday, November 1, 2010 8:12 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Only real issues I'd see with the idea of dropping into the water would be (1) flaring at just the right time (might be kinda hard to judge exactly WHEN to pull up, since you really ARE dropping, even if it doesn't much look like it), and (2) making damn sure you can get out of the wingsuit before you get tangled up in it in the water.

I really would like to see someone give it a go, though - with lots of safety staff around, of course.

The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

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Monday, November 1, 2010 4:29 PM

OUT2THEBLACK

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I wanna !

I wonder if there's a large body of water, like a lake or ocean, which they could fly across, put on the 'air brakes' and simply drop into the drink.

THAT would be a blast.

Might be more of a smash...Water is a lot harder than it looks , especially at speed.

All that talk puts me in mind of 'swooping' :

'...Swooping — parachuting at high speed, then leveling off at low altitude and gliding horizontally near the ground — demonstrations will be led by recently crowned world champion swooper Nick Batsch.

“The swoopers start to go into a 540-degree spiral at about 1,000 feet above the ground. They generate downward speeds of about 70 miles per hour before they level out,” McCormick said. “The chutes are a lot smaller. For example, for the flag jump, my chute is about 230 square feet. In the swoop, the chutes are only about 76 square feet, at least in Nick’s case.”'

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Monday, November 1, 2010 4:47 PM

OUT2THEBLACK

Sadist !

'...But what if you could jump from the sky and fly through the air and land, just like a bird? Corliss sees that as the purest form of human flight. He wants to be the first person to jump out of an airplane and land safely without a parachute, and make it repeatable. The plan has a lot of ifs, and the biggest is money. He needs about $3 million to erect, in the middle of the Las Vegas strip, a ramp hundreds of feet tall. It would look like a ski jump, but act as a landing slope. Since Corliss would bellyflop on it head forward, arms back, he’s found it difficult to persuade people with deep pockets to finance what, after all, could become a televised suicide.'

http://www.airspacemag.com/flight-today/Jump-Fly-Land.html

There's also an article on the dropzone.com forum on the subject of landing a wingsuit w/o a chute , but the link will not open directly from here.

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Monday, November 1, 2010 4:58 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I get sick when the jet comes in to land. I wonder how they keep their stomachs ... phenergan?

Done trampoline work - it's hard to keep your orientation and do an exact 360 flip - do they have diving/ gymnastics training?

They all look pretty light - I think for the surface area to weight ratio you'd have to meet some pretty strict weight limits.

Yeah, it's all pretty when everything works out - know someone who invited me to skydive which I turned down - they broke their spine first jump out with hard landing. Glad I didn't go.

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Monday, November 1, 2010 5:19 PM

OUT2THEBLACK

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

They all look pretty light - I think for the surface area to weight ratio you'd have to meet some pretty strict weight limits.

And that , the 'wing loading' is only one of many considerations.

One thing that many folk forget is that the lift is achieved at glide velocities up to 120 mph.

Max L/D (lift to drag ratio) for these flyers so far is only about 3/1.

To flare a wingsuit over water would be extremely problematic. Landing it would be even more so. Water at high velocity is actually quite abrasive.

Landing any flying device that depends upon forward velocity to maintain lift means flying a precise formation with the surface. Add to this the fact that landing on water creates well-known optical illusions , especially when above 'glassy' water...

Then there's the 'ground effect' , a cushion of air between the flight article and the surface.

A wingsuit has no devices on it for increasing drag while increasing lift , as with the flaps on the wing of an airplane.

The problem is , " How does one slow down to a survivable velocity with a wingsuit , to effect a 'landing' ? "

Even if the speed were reduced by some form of flap , or possibly a drag chute , hitting the water at even 30-40 mph is known to be quite painful , and would likely often also be fatal.

Unconsciousness , broken neck , drowning , or some combination of the three are big potential hazards.

Sooner or later , someone may try it , but they'll also be likely to die in the attempt.

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Monday, November 1, 2010 5:21 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by out2theblack:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I wanna !

I wonder if there's a large body of water, like a lake or ocean, which they could fly across, put on the 'air brakes' and simply drop into the drink.

THAT would be a blast.

Might be more of a smash...Water is a lot harder than it looks , especially at speed.

Well, that's why I had the idea of 'air brakes', so to say. If you could fly out over the water, spreading out as wide as possible to get the most resistance, and then maybe do some sort of maneuver where you tuck into a gainer, and then quickly spread out again....

Hey, if these nuts can think of skimming across the edge of a mountain in a controlled fall, why not ?

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."

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Monday, November 1, 2010 5:43 PM

OUT2THEBLACK

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

Well, that's why I had the idea of 'air brakes', so to say. If you could fly out over the water, spreading out as wide as possible to get the most resistance, and then maybe do some sort of maneuver where you tuck into a gainer, and then quickly spread out again....

Hey, if these nuts can think of skimming across the edge of a mountain in a controlled fall, why not ?

There are 3 large groups of considerations :

1. The knowns.

2. The unknowns.

and the last group , the one that kills folk rather reliably ,

3. The 'unknown' unknowns...

Your approach requires a lot of group 3.

It's full of unknown unknowns , like making up your deceleration maneuver on your first try and then hoping that it works out all right.

Increasing your drag will decrease your speed , which is desirable , but it will also decrease your lift in many cases , which is not so desirable , because then you have run out of flying speed , altitude , and ideas , all at once.

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Tuesday, November 2, 2010 4:21 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

If you're still willing to try this , Rap . we will take up a collection for you.

Check out this vid...'Course , them ain't rockets , and this fellow may not be the sharpest tool in the shed , but at least these guys get the notion that if one lands in the water , they're going to die :

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