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Tuesday, November 9, 2010 7:21 AM
WULFENSTAR
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Tuesday, November 9, 2010 8:57 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Tuesday, November 9, 2010 9:20 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Tuesday, November 9, 2010 9:28 AM
Tuesday, November 9, 2010 9:34 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: It's only a "fight" because you and a few others make it so.
Tuesday, November 9, 2010 10:47 AM
KANEMAN
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Yes. At the very least I can get people to think it over. An unquestioned value is one that serves no useful purpose, and if someone goes "Hmm, gotta think about that" and then actively chooses that value that's one thing, as opposed to simply accepting at face value something handed off to them in their upbringing they never thought to question. You ain't gonna GET "hoorah, I've seen the light" out of folk via an internet discussion, people just don't work that way - but "I think you might have a point there..." is wholly sufficient for the purpose. There's plenty of folk on this forum who have taken a slightly different tack of lookin at things from discussions here, it's just not apparent to folk who think their way is the only right way and anyone who doesn't hold those exact beliefs to those exact degrees are deviants who should be burned at the stake - which means your punk bitch ass is never gonna notice, Wulfenwhiner. The key point is offering a reasonable, sane, factually supported argument in a form clearly understandable in detail to both parties of the discussion, something which also ain't never gonna happen in your case... For a fact, while at times impolite or even brutal, and despite our often profound differences, Rue, Siggy and myself *have* learned quite a bit from one another, and so too with some of the more rational conservative types who you jackbooted wingnuts have caused to run for the hills for fear of being associated with you and your ilk. (Sarge, Jack, et. al.) Ain't about changing minds, as it's about making your point in a sensible fashion (provided your point MAKES some kinda sense, which leaves you out) to other folk and trying to find somewhere in between or compatible to which both parties can work without conflict - making allies instead of enemies... rather than trumpeting your "only-right-way" and trying to stomp down anyone who disagrees with it, which is not only fucking pointless, but every time a discussion does start coming to that common ground, some shitheel like you barges in with that bullshit and by refusing to call your dumb ass on it, it implies tacit support of that conduct by one "side" or the other, at which point any consensus or agreement blows to powder in the wind. Hell, to put not too fine a point on it, boy - you're your own "side"s worst enemy at all times, no matter which one it is, and that is the greatest part of why I do *not* want you on mine. Don't like it, you can haul your sorry ass back to Stormfront where you came from, punk. -Frem I do not serve the Blind God.
Tuesday, November 9, 2010 11:05 AM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: So why fight with them? Why argue so hard? The only way to win is to not play.. (yes, I ripped that from an old 80s movie)
Tuesday, November 9, 2010 11:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: The only way to win is to not play.. (yes, I ripped that from an old 80s movie)
Tuesday, November 9, 2010 11:20 AM
Tuesday, November 9, 2010 12:31 PM
DREAMTROVE
Tuesday, November 9, 2010 1:03 PM
STORYMARK
Tuesday, November 9, 2010 1:26 PM
Quote:Must be because they're so much smarter than you. This is what has become of the DemoLibProgs... snark. They've got nothing left. Paper crowns and sucking their thumbs in a corner. We may have shot the DemolibNationalSocialists in the leg... but they are far from done. Yeah, a head shot would have been better (only way to kill a zombie) but we deal with what we have. Your posts Nix are really why most people view Progressives, liberals and democrats as children Story, its ok. Go sulk in the corner, suck your thumb...Maybe we'll bring you milk and cookies later. Really, its ok, little one.
Quote:We Independents have DONE THE IMPOSSIBLE. And, you know what that makes us? How the Tea Party and all the rest of us Independants view Republicans (and those in power). How it felt to watch the country turn Republican (and against the National Socialists, Liberals, Progressives, Communists, slaves) AND to win only with the help of the Tea Party and Independants...
Quote:Many people try to read the lessons of history to foretell the future. I agree that there seems to be a trend to greater equality over time - but I don't know the mechanism that makes that happen. And until I know the mechanism, I'm not confident it'll work in the future like it did in the past, b/c I'm not confident that the factors that worked then will be present later. Still, some things are clear to me. An unsustainable system will collapse. It's certain, like entropy, or gravity, or an increase in heat due to an increase in CO2. It could collapse faster if the imbalance is great, or slower if it is small, but unless something happens to reverse the imbalance, it will go. And we are unsustainable, both ecologically and economically. Many, many unsustainable systems have come - and gone. Look at our world if you want to see this is true. We are not Romans, or Greeks, or Aztecs. Their systems flourished, then disappeared. It happened then, it will happen to us. We aren't exempt.
Tuesday, November 9, 2010 1:56 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Tuesday, November 9, 2010 2:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: It's only a "fight" because you and a few others make it so.
Tuesday, November 9, 2010 2:10 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Tuesday, November 9, 2010 2:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: It's about more than simply changing people's minds, as far as I'm concerned. When you discuss and debate, you help hone and clarify your own views, as well as getting a perspective on how others see the world, even if you don't see it the same way. You might even be swayed in certain ways, edging towards a slightly different position. I'd say people move by degrees rather than do a complete 180 on their stand on things. But complete turn arounds have been known to happen when someone has been inspired by someone else's words. Of course I'm referring to intelligent, articulate discussion, not the 'shut up you hairy lesbian' type of discourse that sometimes dominates these threads.
Tuesday, November 9, 2010 3:27 PM
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Tuesday, November 9, 2010 3:44 PM
CANTTAKESKY
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Just look at folks like Chrisisall and Niki2...they fuss and fight and then go home at night and the dream conservative dreams that I've put in their heads. And we've been controlling PN's mind for years with our Nazi-Jew brainwave machine and Gangsta Govt Contrails (patent pending).
Tuesday, November 9, 2010 3:56 PM
MAL4PREZ
Tuesday, November 9, 2010 4:11 PM
Tuesday, November 9, 2010 5:00 PM
ELVISCHRIST
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: CTTS You make me think, you probably changed my thinking on some things.
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 4:15 AM
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 4:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by canttakesky: Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: CTTS You make me think, you probably changed my thinking on some things. Thanks for letting me know. It's nice to know it's not ALL pissing in the wind. :) ---- The use of strawmen arguments, when you put words into my mouth that I never said and proceed to tell me why those imaginary words are all manner of horrible, is dishonest in civil discourse. I appreciate refrain from such tactics.
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 6:31 AM
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