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Oakland cops mistook unarmed man's scale for gun
Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:04 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Not a gun, but a scale -- that is what a man shot by police Monday night was carrying. The two officers who opened fire on Derrick Jones say he was reaching for his waistband. His widow says that doesn't justify the shooting. Police have identified the two officers involved as Omar Daza-Quiroz, who has been with the department for four years, and Eriberto Perez-Angeles, who has been with the department for three years and is also on the SWAT team. The electronic scale Jones was carrying is silver colored and small, about 3x5 inches. Police say the two officers shot Jones numerous times in the chest when he reached for his waistband. They say the officers thought Jones was reaching for a pistol. Widow Lanell Jones believes the shooting is still not justified. "Absolutely not. It doesn't make a difference," she said. "He was still killed and it wasn't a weapon." Attorney John Burris represents the Jones family. "That's not a basis to kill anyone," said Jones family attorney John Burris. "No. 2, it wasn't pointed at them and No. 3, how do you get to shoot and kill someone for something that's in his pocket?" "You're talking about a low lighted [sic] area, about heightened anticipation because the person's running," said Don Cameron, a former police officer who now trains law enforcement on the use of weapons. He says they may have mistaken the shiny metal object for a gun. "Officers have to react to it. They can't say, 'Is it a firearm? Let me look, let me wait that extra second' because you don't have a second to wait. After the shooting, Police Chief Anthony Batts said perhaps his department needs better training. "I do want to focus on the fact that we need to better ourselves in dealing with people going for waistbands, going into clothing, going into different aspects and make sure that we give officers the proper training to address these things," said Batts. "They're young officers," said Burris. "Generally, officers within one to three, four years are the ones who generally engage in fatal shootings." The two officers have been placed on administrative leave pending the investigation. In addition to the pocket scale, police said they found marijuana in a glass jar in Jones' pocket.
Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:09 AM
CANTTAKESKY
Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:15 AM
Sunday, November 14, 2010 7:04 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Sunday, November 14, 2010 7:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Which means they have, essentially, NO credibility when it comes to such reports, and it brings into question the hiring and training practices.
Monday, November 15, 2010 1:13 PM
Monday, November 15, 2010 1:35 PM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Monday, November 15, 2010 1:45 PM
WHOZIT
Monday, November 15, 2010 1:54 PM
Monday, November 15, 2010 2:03 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
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