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When otters attack!

POSTED BY: NIKI2
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Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:05 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...





I will excuse them for the shot of the sea otters (grrrr!). I met two river otters down in Santa Cruz once; they are fantastic animals! I doubt their worry that it's rabid, but the idea that it has kits to protect, that makes sense.

Nonetheless, what a kick! Nature strikes back! Go otter!


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Sunday, November 28, 2010 12:19 PM

AURAPTOR

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Poor guy w/ the cell phone camera was screaming like a little girl.... how classic.


Not so cute now, eh buddy ?


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, November 29, 2010 9:43 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yes; people are particularly stupid when it comes to approaching wildlife, especially if it's "cute".

My ex-ranger friend Paula used to have a lot of problems with tourists approaching one of their two herds of elk at the park. They walk right through the campgrounds going to and from their feeding meadow, so they seem so tame.

But one idiot couldn't resist getting close to a buck...during mating season! He ended up getting chased into the kiosk, and before they could get to him, the buck had all but demolished the kiosk! They got him out, and the buck proceeded to finish demolishing the kiosk COMPLETELY!

Last time we were there, Tashi got off leash and decided to harass the elk herd. Scared the shit out of me; if one of the bucks had gotten pissed off, he could have been killed. Luckily it wasn't mating season and the bucks just charged him out of the way.

Some of you will enjoy the mental image of me tearing through waist-high undergrowth screaming at Tashi while he danced just out of reach, running around the herd barking his head off. The ground was uneven, so I did my share of falling and was totally winded by the time he got bored and came back. Luckily they didn't throw us out of the park, but tho' I made the ranger promise not to tell Paula about it (she was rangering at a different park by then), word DID get back to her and I don't think I'll ever live it down. Damend dog!


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Monday, November 29, 2010 10:56 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Hell, I almost got my damn ribs kicked in being a smartass and trying to sneak up on a deer, just one of those shmuckbait situations where I had every edge from position, terrain, wind - and I just HAD to see if I could do it, and me being me...

It was reaching out to poke it that gave me away, and I hadn't considered the obvious danger of being DIRECTLY behind the damn thing... *WHA-WHAM*, and my ass flyin backwards through the air and the first part of me to hit the ground was the back of my head, yeeowtch, yeah, imma dumbass sometimes.

And of COURSE my buddy in the tree stand saw the whole thing and was in complete hysterics on the radio, making it all the worse.

Yeeaaaahh, they're only "cute" till they decide you're in "their space" and decide to DO something about it - Nature is pretty hardcore, really.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Monday, November 29, 2010 12:26 PM

DREAMTROVE


I actually have otters living on my land, quite a few of them. I have to say, they don't tolerate anyone else. I mean, they don't bother me, but they have a real problem sharing space, they'll kick out the competition pretty darn quick. Fast little buggers too. Anyway, they're really pretty cute, and come in various sizes and colors. They make strange nests, I've never seen them anywhere else, they like to make these soft saw dust piles in holes and hollow trees, etc. First I saw the holes, then the footprints, it was a while before I saw the otters. Sort of irks me that the media has it in for them today, but the much more major worry is that someone will come and contaminate the river with natural gas exploration fracking fluids.

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Monday, November 29, 2010 12:29 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Frem: Yup, yerra dumbass! YOU, of all people, I should think would be bright enough not to stand directly behind a pair of murderous hooves!! Shees...

Woulda been fun to see, tho', long as you weren't bad hurt.

Y'know what I think? I think you got too lazy, with all those critters comin' up to 'ya all the time like you was some kinda St. Francis or something, and thought you were immune to all of that jazz...


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Monday, November 29, 2010 1:08 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Well, I was younger and dumber, and hell yes shoulda known better - this was before my gift was at the degree it is now, and it would not have worked in that situation anyway cause I was actively hunting them with dinner in mind, you see.

I will not do the shooting cause I am hopeless with a rifle and cannot kill for food when I have other sources of food at hand, it's hard to explain - but if I trust someone enough, I will track and spot game for them, more like used to since age and hard use have caught up with me, and besides, given that the shot itself is often gonna be within 25 feet of me, if I do not trust your fire discipline or accuracy, you AIN'T goin...
(What *is* it with hunters these days, that they barely have a clue which end goes bang, and NO concept of weapon safety, much less any realistic chance of hitting any goddamn thing ?!)

So anyhow, I got that close, and held every possible advantage, so I told my buddy to hold the shot, all young and dumb and full of myself, and uttered some variation of the most common redneck/hillfolk famous last words...

"Hey y'all, watch this!"

To my credit, I did make physical contact, just that the instant I did, I recieved physical contact of a less polite sort, is all, sending my buddy into total hysterics to the point where he damn near fell out of the tree stand.

Hell, even when I was doin it, the back of my mind was screaming "YOU IDIOT!" the entire time.
No harm done though, just some painkillers and a lotta medical tape, unless you count my pride, which at the time coulda USED a bruise or three, and boy did it get some that day.

Oh, yeah - said buddy was also the same guy who'd watched me punch a wildcat in the head before (I think I related that incident here?) so he already knew I was friggin insane.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:23 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


No, I hadn't heard that one! Give! By "wildcat" do you mean bobcat? I know everything has different names; out here we call the big kitties "cougars", in Mexico they're--I forget what--other states call 'em Mountain Lions, so I wasn't sure what you meant about "wildcat". But DO tell!

Jim and I met a bobcat once on a trail, think I've related it here. Damned thing stalked us down the fire road just a bit (pretty sure she had kits off the trail) and we hiked all the way down to Muir Beach from the top of the hills and went back up the road (which ain't all that wide to begin with!). Funnier than hell (for someone else to SEE!), us hikin' along the side of the road trying to hang onto three dogs by their COLLARS (we didn't use leashes when we hiked, or even carry them back then).

Sometimes interacting with wildlife isn't all it's cracked up to be...and we (in your case) are the ones who get "cracked up"!!


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:04 PM

DREAMTROVE


Suddenly my otters are in danger, they want to build a gas plant upstream. I have till may of next year to come up with an enact a solution.

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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 5:41 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Actually you did hear it, in this thread.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=42210

But I'll repost it for ya.
Quote:

Heh heh heh, Bobcats...

As I mentioned, I used to spot game for my buddies, and one of em, he had this contraption kinda like a hand-truck I think they call a game cart, for us lazy old bastards who are too finicky to throw it over our shoulder or drag it on the ground, you see ?

So we bagged ourselves a sizeable deer, nice clean shot and no having to chase it all over creation, but I was by then tired, hot, and hungry - MickT seemed to have the idea that you shouldn't hunt on a full stomach as it somehow demeans the process (we're sorta waste-nothing naturalists about it) but I always thought he was just shovelling excuses case he knows I tend to be more keen on spotting something if I know that's the only food I am likely to GET.
(cause he won't pack any, neither, jerk!)

Anyhows, so we're be-boppin back to civilization, all triumphant and whatnot...

And this stupid friggin bobcat/wildcat/whatever pops out of the bushes on the trail in front of us!

His precious rifle is back in it's case on the cart, and all *I* have is a puny little popgun currently loaded with snake shot which'd do naught more than piss him off - I guess he was hungry too, cause they normally shy away from humans, but that was MY impending dinner, curse it!

I dunno what possessed me to do it, maybe dealing with cats for so long or something, but he didn't look so much hostile or aggressive as curious and full of mischief - so I took three long steps and just as he swung his ears back to start cussin at me, punched him dead square in the top of the head, WHACK!

"That's MY friggin deer, get your own you lazy moocher!"

Annnd off he went, in a hurry, just like that.
I look back and Mick is standing there with his jaw hangin open, halfway through fumbling his rifle back out of the case, although what good it'd have done at that range is debateable.

"What ? do I LOOK like I wanna share ?"

He just snaps the case shut, muttering and starts pushing the cart again.

Most folk are afraid of wildlife, but the truth is they're usually more afraid of you than vice versa, and while I do have a healthy respect for anything with sharp teeth, nasty claws and the like, having an empathic understanding and knowledge of their body language is a better defense than a 12pounder fulla cannister.

And on THAT note, you'll get a kick outta this...
http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2009/03/class-ii-beverage-alert.htm
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Tee hee hee.


Also got chased a bit by a bear once, but he was too lazy to do more than run me away from whatever he was eating - way funnier in hindsight than it was at the time, yanno, they look a LOT smaller from further away, that is, till they pop up, grunt, show some teeth and start comin towards you....

At which point I shrieked like little miss moffet and run my ass off, and yon bear decided to go back to lunch and think no more of it - I was pretty quick back then, and I had a LOT of incentive at the time, obviously.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Thursday, December 2, 2010 5:37 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oh, jezus, DT, what a bummer! I hope they move before it happens...tho’ otters are pretty savvy, quite possibly the minute they feel a change in their environment, they’ll move on. Let us know how it goes, please? Otters are close to my heart. Damn, OUR little species sure fucks things up!

The two species I decided I wanted to come back as were a river otter or a dolphin. Both species have it SO good...food is easy for them to obtain and both species spend a LOT of time playing. The sea otters have it a LOT tougher, as does most everything else in the ocean. But river otters’ sense of play just blows me away (dolphins too, obviously).

Oh, Frem, that’s hysterical! Again, wish I’d been there. But bear, now there I draw the line. I don’t like bears. I admire their beauty, but hell, I also admire the beauty of poisonous snakes, and snakes are more predictable than bears! Actually, most anything is...except water buffalo, that is. I don’t even want to SEE a bear in the wild, unless from a moving car!

And definitely, everything you said:
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Most folk are afraid of wildlife, but the truth is they're usually more afraid of you than vice versa, and while I do have a healthy respect for anything with sharp teeth, nasty claws and the like, having an empathic understanding and knowledge of their body language is a better defense than a 12pounder fulla cannister.
Barring the IDIOT “most people”, that’s’true. And absolutely, wildlife gives off plenty of clear body language if one cares to pay attention, which most idjits don’t; reaction most often is “eek” or “isn’t that cute!”


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Thursday, December 2, 2010 6:15 AM

DREAMTROVE


Niki

They move upsteam and downstream. Those options won't help them here.

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Thursday, December 2, 2010 6:48 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Dunno, depends if there are any tributaries that might remain uncontaminated. Obviously for the most part you're right...is there nowhere upstream they could go that's safe?

Gawd I hate it; after researching just a tad even of what we let corporations/utilities do to rivers, and are allowed to GET AWAY WITH, when I am reminded by hearing about stuff like this, I seethe.


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